Y&R: Episodes discussion., Week of June 29,2009

[Juliajms]

I understand. I tend to hate pregnancy stories as well. What I'm hoping is that they write it in, but it's mostly an off screen thing. I'm also a huge fan of sending soap kids to Swiss boarding schools, although I do miss the little boy that played Noah.

[DeeeDee]

She's freaking out cause she's under stress not because she wants to hurt Jack.

Self centered yes.

Worse not so much.

Not really.

That would be the toothy redhead at the hospital.

Not at all.

Sharon didn't yearn for or lean on Nick until AFTER Brad died.

Her feelings for Nick were NEVER an issue in their marriage until Brad died & by then their marriage was all but over.

Sharon tried very much to make her marriage to Jack work but HE kept lying to her & Noah about everything.

Not so much.

Jack was indignant when she dared think for herself & lied to her when he knew she wouldn't approve of whatever he was doing.

[DeeeDee]

[Juliajms]

I don't agree. You can't have a marriage if someone is continually destroying your trust. That's the kind of thing that can drive a person over the edge. If they were following through with Sharon's mental illness than having her screw Billy and lie to Jack about the baby would make some sort of sense. As it stands I can see why Sharon Case seems demoralized in some of her scenes. What Sharon has done is worse, imo, but I don't actually believe Sharon would do this.

[DeeeDee]

Exactly.

[lmfan]

I don't think this would be considered a spoiler, but knew some would be interested. A very reliable poster on another board, who e-mails Doug Davidson regularly, just recieved an e-mail from him today saying that he just found out yesterday that MTS is staying with the show.

[Juliajms]

I REALLY hope that is true. I wonder what is up with DD. Is he being forced to go recurring?

[lmfan]

He said the show is trying to get him to go recurring a few days ago. I don't know if that will change with MTS staying because he has been getting more story as of late because of his relationship with Nikki and MJ/Patty.

After seeing how good friend Tracey Bregman is treated under this regime, no doubt he will not want to go recurring. I don't know what his options will be though.

[Juliajms]

That sucks. And what a time to have DD on recurring. Did he have any news on Tracy, if I may ask?

[lmfan]

No, but Tracey updated on her facebook that she just filmed her first show last Friday and will probably have about five shows in August. It sounds like she won't appear at all in July and will be on next in early August. Of course, it could just be another pitiful 30 sec scenes like she was used for once in June. It probably is for another wedding or funeral as the writers can't get away with their pat Lauren and Fen references by Michael once a week at a big event like a wedding.

She has no idea why she isn't being used as much, encourages the fans to continue watching the show, says she misses the show and the actors, and doesn't know anything about these persistant Lauren being killed off or being written off rumors.

[classicmoment]

Case has moments here and there but she's definitly fell out of rythmn with what she brought earlier into the year. Josh was indeed good today and the scene with him and case in the chpel earlier int he week was good too. I wonder if the purpose of having Victor and Jack go into the chapel to "find" Nick done as much for the actor as it was for the character. MS and SH were both great today too

[Juliajms]

Thanks for answering. That's disappointing. Lauren should definitely be involved in what is happening to Summer and Phyllis right now. Not having Lauren at the hospital was a glaring omission.

[lmfan]

Definitely. Lauren was there taking care of Summer when Phyllis was on trial, when Phyllis was arrested at her wedding, when Sharon and Dru fell off the cliff, when Nick "died" in the plane crash, when Summer had RSV and was rushed to the hospital, when Phyllis was in jail and Lauren bought Nick a birthday cake and had Summer and Nick over. She and Michael even signed papers to be guardians for Summer if anything happened to Phyllis, yet Summer is in a coma and everyone except Lauren goes to the hospital. The writers want MJ to be Phyllis' new best friend for plot purposes so Michael just briefly refers to Lauren when talking to Phyllis.

It is as dumb as the writers not having Lauren in any scenes, for 6 weeks, when Kevin was the chipmunk after she and Michael saved Kevin from himself years earlier. Kevin even credited Lauren many times for being the first person to believe in him, but I guess that history means little to MAB and crew.

Lauren also has not had one scene with good friend Paul since he became enganged to Nikki or with Jana or Kevin since their latest fiasco.

[BadZoe]

The timing is all off with Thursday and Friday's episodes. Patty Ann is sitting around hoping Jack will remember that it is their anniversary, July 2nd, on the invitation and air date, yet they are having their 4th of July bash everywhere else on the show. Either those Chancellors are celebrating early, or someone really screwed up with the placement of the 4th of July scenes. They should have had the DNA results come on Thursday and then Friday make it a new day with new clothes.

Please someone do something with Lily's hair. If I'm going to be forced to watch her because she's in scenes I'm interested in, the least they could do is get rid of that horribly unflattering hair cut. Either give her shorter, straight cut bangs or pin them back and out of the way.

Sharon's actions would be making a lot more sense right now if she found out that Billy was the father. I could see why she wouldn't want Billy raising the baby with her and would instead pick Jack. This is all so dumb. Its like they were originally planning to just have the fall out from Crazy Sharon sleeping with everyone. Then someone said, Ashley's pregnant, lets make Sharon pregnant too and have a baby switch, so they dropped everything and went that way.

If MTS is one of the few who knows the way around the tape vault, why have they not had Niki and Paul flashbacks? One of the things that gives Nikki and Victor legs is that they can go back to the old scenes.

If they want comic relief with Gloria, she should be the one working as a manicurist.

Would the cell phone even be allowed now as evidence in a court case against Daniel? I thought that once the chain of custody between the police and evidence was broken, it is no longer admissible. It made no sense that Heather and the cops would leave the court room and not take the evidence with them. Hopefully one of these day's we'll get to see the increasingly incompetent Heather fired.

[cara mia]

As the person who called the upcoming babyswitch [spec not Spoiler], I could not agree more. It's a shame that so many characters have been ruined just so TPTB could set up this contrived story. The only truly successful babyswitch (If you judge by ratings bump) was the baby Miranda story on AMC. IMO, that worked because the character of Babe (who I hated!) did have a clear motivation to take Bianca's baby. The golddigger wanted to hold onto her rich husband! Classic & clear motivation. Now MJ and/or Adam are going to take Sharon's baby and give it Ashley and why? I can explain it but not in a quick and clear sentence. And half the time we don't know if these characters are motivated by insanity, evil or revenge, that's how much the writing sucks. It changes depending on whatever plot point they are trying to write to. So now Sharon, who has NO REAL REASON TO LIE, is going to lie about her baby just so we can give MJ a reason to take Sharon's baby. UGH! If they really wanted to do a babyswitch, let Sharon be the real Sharon and tell the truth about the baby. Then Adam could take Sharon's kid out of "guilt" and give it to Ashley. Adam's already been torched as a character by making him a baby-killer. Why ruin Sharon, too?! Or why not just honestly make Jack the father? This story is just too stupid.