Why did Cassie have to be the one to die? Why couldn't have been Noah? I like adult Noah but I wasn't attached to early kid Noah. That would have been a better story. Nick & Sharon still would have broken up, and we still could have had Phick. Cassie would have felt survivor's guilt and a sense of insecurity because she's not Nick's blood child. Pre-Reed, Victor would have all about a replacement grandson.

I get the point of the dead kid, I just don't get why it had to be CG's Cassie. She should have the Lily role on canvas as the young ingenue.

I think because they new that would be more heartbreaking for some reason. I suppose because of the way the character was introduced. I feel like I saw a lot more of Cassie's childhood then Noah's, so her death had a bigger impact.

That's exactly why.

Bingo!

I think because they new that would be more heartbreaking for some reason. I suppose because of the way the character was introduced. I feel like I saw a lot more of Cassie's childhood then Noah's, so her death had a bigger impact.

Yes...no other death could have affected us quite so strongly. Soaps can't be ALL about protecting legacy characters. Sometimes the sacrifice is worthwhile.

I said it before and i'll say it again, the underlying reason was that CG was never going to be a great beauty, an the actress was so popular that to re-cast her would have been a disaster. The decision did bring about lots of drama for the show.

Mark - why do you think Cassie has a twin?

If so, that was a bad reason. KMac on GH is far from a great beauty, but she's very popular (although not with me) because people saw her grow up. I wasn't watching GH when she was a child so I don't have that feeling for her, but I think people did have that for CG.

I said it before and i'll say it again, the underlying reason was that CG was never going to be a great beauty, an the actress was so popular that to re-cast her would have been a disaster. The decision did bring about lots of drama for the show.

Mark - why do you think Cassie has a twin?

Basic premise: Camryn Grimes is popular, and I think they'll want to bring her back some day.

1. When stressed, Sharon loses time.

2. Sharon sold her baby, you may recall to a shady lawyer.

3. But that shady lawyer did an inexplicable thing. Rather than make the profit, he GAVE the baby to his skanky girlfriend, Alice.

4. Why might the skanky lawyer have foregone profit. What if he inadvertently got a TWOFER? So he sold one, and kept the buy-one-get-one extra for Alice?

5. How could Sharon not know this? Because she LOSES TIME.

See with John dying I was 50/50. Yes, his death was sad. But to be honest, John was an older gentlemen who lived a good long life. Cassie was just a young girl who had her entire life ahead of her. So, I didn't cry when John died, but I was saddened just the same.

Please, no Cassie twins. In life, we eventually lose our loves ones. Let Cassie RIP. What would a twin accomplish? It's not like Sharon ever had a chance to see this twin grow up, so it would just be the same as Sharon having another baby. It's not like they can call the twin Cassie.

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If so, that was a bad reason. KMac on GH is far from a great beauty, but she's very popular (although not with me) because people saw her grow up. I wasn't watching GH when she was a child so I don't have that feeling for her, but I think people did have that for CG.

Who is KMac?

By killing Cassie, they also threw away their next generation Newman heroine, even if she wasn't a blood Newman. Summer doesn't cut it, because she's from a much younger generation than Cassie is, and Summer should be an Abbott.

Y&R missed its chance having its own Kimberly McCullough by killing off Cassie. She could have been to Y&R what Robin is to GH. A character and actress we saw grow up and one we have a deeper connection to as an audience, simply because we saw evolve and grow up before our very eyes, which we didn't see with other characters.

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Random question: But when Ashley ends up leaving Victor (that has to happen at some point) - are there any men on the show that she's even suited for? There don't seem to be any men on the canvas that fit for her at all! The character is supposed to be in her mid-40's right?

The only one i can think of is Paul and that doesn't sound too appetizing. Perhaps Michael, but theyre not breaking up Likey from what the writers have said.

Who is KMac?

Robin.

See with John dying I was 50/50. Yes, his death was sad. But to be honest, John was an older gentlemen who lived a good long life. Cassie was just a young girl who had her entire life ahead of her. So, I didn't cry when John died, but I was saddened just the same.

Exactly.

Also, of course, John's death was a horrible mistake. The show lost its center. They've tried to recover (ghost, Alistair), and that's a fine bandaid. But given how relatively little impact John's death had (sure, there was some cool fighting over the will and stuff), it was a mistake. Plus, for the long period where only Jack saw the ghost, and the ghost was more chiding than supportive, it actually kind of weakened Jack...ghost-dad as a crutch.

The new use of John in a more Six Feet Under way, appearing to all the kids, is much much better.

I think the show finally has a shot at a fascinating new paterfamilias for the canvas in Murphy. If only they'd play him out of Kay's orbit. I'd like Murph's bait and tackle to become unwieldy (too far to go everyday), but he can't stand sitting around the house. So he goes to help Kevin at Crimson Lights.

There, he begins to interact with the whole canvas...the guy they talk to.

Murphy would also be fabulous as the bartender at Jimmy's.

Basic premise: Camryn Grimes is popular, and I think they'll want to bring her back some day.

1. When stressed, Sharon loses time.

2. Sharon sold her baby, you may recall to a shady lawyer.

3. But that shady lawyer did an inexplicable thing. Rather than make the profit, he GAVE the baby to his skanky girlfriend, Alice.

4. Why might the skanky lawyer have foregone profit. What if he inadvertently got a TWOFER? So he sold one, and kept the buy-one-get-one extra for Alice?

5. How could Sharon not know this? Because she LOSES TIME.

Ok - you sold me! That could definitely work. And since it's not B&B I don't have to be afraid that Nick will end up sleeping with her.

Random question: But when Ashley ends up leaving Victor (that has to happen at some point) - are there any men on the show that she's even suited for? There don't seem to be any men on the canvas that fit for her at all! The character is supposed to be in her mid-40's right?

The only one i can think of is Paul and that doesn't sound too appetizing. Perhaps Michael, but theyre not breaking up Likey from what the writers have said.

Paul and Ashley already fizzled in the chemistry test.

Maybe by then B&B will be tired of him, and Bill Spencer Jr. can come shake up the Genoa City Chronicle. Or Amber's ex, Rick Forrester, can come to B&B and pick up where he left off with his cougar Ashley.

By killing Cassie, they also threw away their next generation Newman heroine, even if she wasn't a blood Newman. Summer doesn't cut it, because she's from a much younger generation than Cassie is, and Summer should be an Abbott.

Y&R missed it's chance by having its own Kimberly McCullough by killing off Cassie. She could have been to Y&R what Robin is to GH. A character and actress we saw grow up and one we have a deeper connection to as an audience, simply because we saw evolve and grow up before our very eyes, which we didn't see with other characters.

Yeah, but who's to say Camryn Grimes would have stayed (or what her acting would have become - look at Alderson on OLTL)? Most likely she might have, but who knows. And didn't Kimberly McCollough publicly bash GH a ton of times, and then eventually reprise the role. Plus, KM is not the best actress...

If they want a good long lost twin story, they need to look at Nancy Curlee's Nick/Lujack story from GL. Rip it off to great detail if they want. It was a story that worked too.

I think the circumstances surrounding John's death were far worse than his death itself.

Again, no more twins. Cassie's is dead. Her twin is not going to fill that void. Yes it's a familiar face (Grimes) but the character would be totally different. With so many possibilities out there, going that route would just be lazy.

Edited May 31, 200916 yr by MTSRocks