Members DRW50 Posted Saturday at 01:16 AM Members Share Posted Saturday at 01:16 AM Didn't Mac tend to forgive Iris fairly quickly in the Lemay era? I know months passed but she would usually go back into the fold. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Contessa Donatella Posted Saturday at 01:23 AM Members Share Posted Saturday at 01:23 AM Sometimes I am amazed that the show was even able to recover after May 1st, 1989, Doug's death. But the Red Swan was in a way a punishment visited upon the fans. Please register in order to view this content 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jmgaw Posted Saturday at 01:25 AM Members Share Posted Saturday at 01:25 AM (edited) Bad Recasts: Russell Todd ( Jamie Frame) Very Bland... Linda Borgeson ( Alice Frame) Boring...Boring...Boring... Judy Dewey ( Blaine Ewing) What a letdown after Laura Malone... Good Recasts Irene Dailey ( Liz Matthews) Great Actress...Great chemistry with Doug Watson, Victoria Wyndham, Beverley Penberthy and Hugh Marlowe... Nancy Frangione ( Cecile DePoulignac) I did enjoy Susan Keith as Cecile. Edited Saturday at 02:33 AM by jmgaw delete repeat post 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Efulton Posted Saturday at 01:27 AM Members Share Posted Saturday at 01:27 AM The Red Swan was terrible but it was not the worst story ever told on Another World. I cannot imagine the pressure on the Swajeski and Michael Laibson to quickly pivot and deal with the loss of their leading man who was front and center at the time of his death. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tisy-Lish Posted Saturday at 01:27 AM Members Share Posted Saturday at 01:27 AM Well, "quickly" is a relative term. LOL. I would not describe "months" as quickly. But yes, she always managed to charm herself back into Daddy's good graces. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jmgaw Posted Saturday at 01:37 AM Members Share Posted Saturday at 01:37 AM The Red Swan was slow moving and boring. Ken Jordan was a dud of a character. Donna Swajeski was lost without Harding LeMay's outlines. LeMay was the reason Another World was nominated for best writing in 1989. The Jason Frame Murder, Iris revealed as the Chief, and Josie Watts learning Russ Matthews was her father put Another World at the tops of its game. The inexperienced Swajeski couldn't keep the momentum going. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted Saturday at 01:46 AM Members Share Posted Saturday at 01:46 AM I think for the severity of some of what Iris did in the '70s it was quick, but then I have never seen most of that, only read it. If Mac had lived I imagine he and Iris would have had a further period of estrangement. The only reason they needed to have forgiveness after several months was because the Corys would have been too scattered otherwise. I think it also may have been down to not really having story if Iris was fully estranged from the Corys as she was never close to any of them anyway - Mac was the one she loved. I think it was R Scott Colishaw (?) who said Mac's death was the ultimate comeuppance for Iris all through the rest of her time on the show. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Contessa Donatella Posted Saturday at 01:47 AM Members Share Posted Saturday at 01:47 AM 100% agree. But, now you've done it. What was the worst story ever told on AW? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tisy-Lish Posted Saturday at 01:56 AM Members Share Posted Saturday at 01:56 AM Wow, I have never heard that quote before. But it is a very deep thought. I'd agree with Colishaw. Had Lemay written Mac's death, I can imagine Iris being completely inconsolable and likely suicidal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted Saturday at 02:06 AM Members Share Posted Saturday at 02:06 AM (edited) I agree. I think he also would have been more overt in her looking for Mac replacements, which was sort of implied with how quickly she fell for Lucas, and later, Spencer, but never properly told. It's all been written about enough as it is but the show did Iris so dirty in the '90s. The last mention of her being in an interview where Michael Malone basically had to say that P&G saw her as too old to return still bothers me. Edited Saturday at 02:06 AM by DRW50 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tisy-Lish Posted Saturday at 02:36 AM Members Share Posted Saturday at 02:36 AM In no particular order: The Red Swan Lumina The Egyptian/Arizona Poison Bottle of Sand 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members watson71 Posted Saturday at 02:39 AM Members Share Posted Saturday at 02:39 AM Without a doubt, that poisonous dust in that Egyptian urn that Nancy gave to Mac and Rachel for Christmas. Both of them in the hospital at the same time in early 1986 because they both inhaled the dust. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Contessa Donatella Posted Saturday at 02:45 AM Members Share Posted Saturday at 02:45 AM That Egyptian dust was my first thought. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jmgaw Posted Saturday at 02:52 AM Members Share Posted Saturday at 02:52 AM 1. The Egyptian dust story was horrendous. Poorly written.... 2. The return of Steven Frame. Perhaps had Jacqueline Courtney played Alice at this point it may have worked. The writing was pretty bad in 1981-1982. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Efulton Posted Saturday at 03:27 AM Members Share Posted Saturday at 03:27 AM I thought the return of Steve Frame was well written on paper and David Canary did his best but the casting of Alice was an huge issue. Also, soon after Steve returned (on October 13, 1981) L. Virginia Browne was replaced by Corinne Jacker (November 9, 1981). Corinne was a disaster although she did give us Cass Winthrop and Alma Rudder so I will her praise for those creations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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