2 hours ago, Mona Kane Croft said:

Also, there were two or three younger men always hanging around the pool at Miranda Bishop's house.  I believe they were all contract actors. And Ric Halloway, who married Marianne Randolph.  Unless I have my timing wrong.

There was also Jerry. although I think that Jerry is married in real life to the woman who played Alice at the time, so maybe not.

David Bailey (RIP) was so dull onscreen...if he was saving that for his personal life, it explains a lot.

24 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

There was also Jerry. although I think that Jerry is married in real life to the woman who played Alice at the time, so maybe not.

According to the AWHP, Paul Tinder married Vana Tribbey in 1982 which was after Tina Sloan's time but I suppose there should have been a window for courtship.

Rick Porter is about the right age and didn't marry Deborah Hobart (Amy Dudley) until 1983.

Christopher Rich likewise, married Nancy Frangione at the end of 1982.

There were a ton of young guys about 10 years younger than Tina Sloan although after ruling out Richard Bekins I don't know who might have been interested and available at the time -- Ray Liotta (Joey), Jack Parrish (Brad), James Horan (Denny). Tony Cummings (Rick) and Christopher Knight (Leigh) were a little bit younger but perhaps close enough.

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7 hours ago, Mona Kane Croft said:

Also, there were two or three younger men always hanging around the pool at Miranda Bishop's house.  I believe they were all contract actors. 

Yeah. Brad and Craig. Kit had so many suitors but was so boring😂😂

It could be. Admittedly, I only suggested Richard Bekins because after I read the word “cute” I immediately thought of him 😂😂😂

Another World - January 31th, 1989

She likes to reduce people to her... level.

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WOOOOOOF. Long time coming. Sorry for the pause. Work related business. Let's start shall we?

First, let me preface with a little note to myself - I'll write a post about all my impressions of the episodes that I didn't have time to comment on. That will happen soon, probably tomorrow.  But for the Sake of continuing and not procrastinating... I'm picking up from OUR LAST watched episode. So...  A LOT to cover. 

💗

Iris is being questioned by Rachel... after seeing her with Michael Hudson in a private moment... last night. The snake is escaping the interrogation successfully, but Rachel's expressive eyes are not missing a beat. You can't fool a fooler. 

Mary and Vince are finally breathing a breath of fresh air after the end of the Pilara / Reuben fiasco. The storyline culminated in a happy ending, that I'm not fond of... My husband disagrees with me, he likes the resolve. I do not.

Now... moving on to Iris trying to sink her teeth into Michael FOR A MILLIONTH time... and this time... Donna Hudson is dangerously close to realizing what is going on. The bridal shower begins and everyone is seemingly happy. The men are having their own party at the same time and it's all fun, beers and pizza... before a sinister cloud overshadows both events - who is the Daddy? It seems the question is terrorizing both Victoria... and her mother.

Overall - 7/10 - because I don't like bridal showers. AT ALL. 

Highlight of the episode -  "It's Rachel's influence. She likes to reduce people to her level" - QUOTE OF THE YEAR! 🤣

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Maxim said:

Another World - January 31th, 1989

She likes to reduce people to her... level.

🐍

WOOOOOOF. Long time coming. Sorry for the pause. Work related business. Let's start shall we?

First, let me preface with a little note to myself - I'll write a post about all my impressions of the episodes that I didn't have time to comment on. That will happen soon, probably tomorrow.  But for the Sake of continuing and not procrastinating... I'm picking up from OUR LAST watched episode. So...  A LOT to cover. 

💗

Iris is being questioned by Rachel... after seeing her with Michael Hudson in a private moment... last night. The snake is escaping the interrogation successfully, but Rachel's expressive eyes are not missing a beat. You can't fool a fooler. 

Mary and Vince are finally breathing a breath of fresh air after the end of the Pilara / Reuben fiasco. The storyline culminated in a happy ending, that I'm not fond of... My husband disagrees with me, he likes the resolve. I do not.

Now... moving on to Iris trying to sink her teeth into Michael FOR A MILLIONTH time... and this time... Donna Hudson is dangerously close to realizing what is going on. The bridal shower begins and everyone is seemingly happy. The men are having their own party at the same time and it's all fun, beers and pizza... before a sinister cloud overshadows both events - who is the Daddy? It seems the question is terrorizing both Victoria... and her mother.

Overall - 7/10 - because I don't like bridal showers. AT ALL. 

Highlight of the episode -  "It's Rachel's influence. She likes to reduce people to her level" - QUOTE OF THE YEAR! 🤣

 

 

Great line!!! Also excellent fan review. You have been missed.

3 hours ago, Maxim said:

Highlight of the episode -  "It's Rachel's influence. She likes to reduce people to her level" - QUOTE OF THE YEAR! 🤣

That's a fun line. 

By this time Mac was such a thoroughly good character that they seem to be going overboard to show us how normal he is compared to elitist Iris. You never would have seen Palmer or Adam Chandler acting that way. 

Sometimes you have to lie: The Life and Times of Louise Fitzhugh, renegade author of Harriet the Spy. (2020). Seal Press. ASINB086SWGVK3

So, at this point in the book, Louise is living with a woman, monogamously & exclusively, in New York City. They are about to have one of their infamous theme parties. Among the guests is Connie Ford. But she wasn't from Louise's list, no, she was from Sandra's list. Also Jane Wagner was on Sandra's list. (Apparently she & Lily Tomlin hadn't met yet.) Sandra was just a friend. Her partner was Alixe.

They broke up not long after. It was about this time that Louise started writing Harriet the Spy which she described to a friend as "It is called Harriet the Spy and is about a nasty little girl who keeps a notebook on all of her friends."

In the summer of 1964 they rented a house in the Hamptons with 2 others. One of that two was Constance Ford. At the end of that summer, Louise & Alixe finally broke their household into two. At that time Louise invited Connie Ford to live with her. Louise's friends were relieved. They knew that Connie would be a steadying force on Louise. Connie was one of the few people Louise would listen to. She'd keep Louise from drinking too much & help her meet book deadlines. (to be continued)

13 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Sometimes you have to lie: The Life and Times of Louise Fitzhugh, renegade author of Harriet the Spy. (2020). Seal Press. ASINB086SWGVK3

So, at this point in the book, Louise is living with a woman, monogamously & exclusively, in New York City. They are about to have one of their infamous theme parties. Among the guests is Connie Ford. But she wasn't from Louise's list, no, she was from Sandra's list. Also Jane Wagner was on Sandra's list. (Apparently she & Lily Tomlin hadn't met yet.) Sandra was just a friend. Her partner was Alixe.

They broke up not long after. It was about this time that Louise started writing Harriet the Spy which she described to a friend as "It is called Harriet the Spy and is about a nasty little girl who keeps a notebook on all of her friends."

In the summer of 1964 they rented a house in the Hamptons with 2 others. One of that two was Constance Ford. At the end of that summer, Louise & Alixe finally broke their household into two. At that time Louise invited Connie Ford to live with her. Louise's friends were relieved. They knew that Connie would be a steadying force on Louise. Connie was one of the few people Louise would listen to. She'd keep Louise from drinking too much & help her meet book deadlines. (to be continued)

Wow, this is rather detailed.  This might explain why Connie was in NYC (rather than California) in 1967 to take the role on AW.  Thanks for posting, and please don't leave us on a cliff-hanger.  LOL.  

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3 minutes ago, Mona Kane Croft said:

Wow, this is rather detailed.  This might explain why Connie was in NYC (rather than California) in 1967 to take the role on AW.  Thanks for posting, and please don't leave us on a cliff-hanger.  LOL.  

I stopped at the point it becomes 100% about Connie. So you're in for even more detail. Try to work on it again later today.

15 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

I stopped at the point it becomes 100% about Connie. So you're in for even more detail. Try to work on it again later today.

Apparently I was wrong about Fitzhugh being the reason Connie remained in New York in the mid-1960s.  It seems she lived in NYC most (if not all) of her life, even while appearing in films and primetime TV series filmed in Hollywood. I made an assumption, but I was incorrect.  

14 hours ago, DRW50 said:

That's a fun line. 

By this time Mac was such a thoroughly good character that they seem to be going overboard to show us how normal he is compared to elitist Iris. You never would have seen Palmer or Adam Chandler acting that way. 

What a perfect description of Iris - an elitist. Absolutely right! I can't wait till she falls flat on her backside. These types of characters are always so interesting when they have failed and try to crawl back up. ❤️

 

17 hours ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Great line!!! Also excellent fan review. You have been missed.

Thank you! I missed being here and writing them for you guys too! A new one is coming tonight! ❤️

3 hours ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Sometimes you have to lie: The Life and Times of Louise Fitzhugh, renegade author of Harriet the Spy. (2020). Seal Press. ASINB086SWGVK3

So, at this point in the book, Louise is living with a woman, monogamously & exclusively, in New York City. They are about to have one of their infamous theme parties. Among the guests is Connie Ford. But she wasn't from Louise's list, no, she was from Sandra's list. Also Jane Wagner was on Sandra's list. (Apparently she & Lily Tomlin hadn't met yet.) Sandra was just a friend. Her partner was Alixe.

They broke up not long after. It was about this time that Louise started writing Harriet the Spy which she described to a friend as "It is called Harriet the Spy and is about a nasty little girl who keeps a notebook on all of her friends."

In the summer of 1964 they rented a house in the Hamptons with 2 others. One of that two was Constance Ford. At the end of that summer, Louise & Alixe finally broke their household into two. At that time Louise invited Connie Ford to live with her. Louise's friends were relieved. They knew that Connie would be a steadying force on Louise. Connie was one of the few people Louise would listen to. She'd keep Louise from drinking too much & help her meet book deadlines. (to be continued)

Connie Ford, born in the Bronx in 1923, was an actress who began her career as a model for Victory Red lipstick during World War II. She had acted on Broadway, notably as Miss Forsyth in the original production of Death of a Salesman, as well as in movies and television. She mainly played character parts: prisoners, society ladies, saloon girls, witnesses, clients in legal dramas, and patients and nurses in medical programs. When she moved in with Louise, she was playing Eve Morris, a homicidal playhouse proprietor, in the soap opera The Edge of Night.

If Louise was worried that she was falling into an early, stodgy middle age, Connie was an immediate antidote. They had fun going to bars and parties together. Connie was lighthearted and their love affair a confection after the Sturm and Drang of breaking up with Alixe. Connie was also a good influence when it came to work ethic. She had her own demanding career with morning costume and make-up calls to meet, which encouraged Louise to discipline herself and write or revise several pages every day.

As an actress, Connie was always watching her weight, and Louise joined her in a mutual dieting regime. After a lifetime as a sylph, Louise was adding pounds and newly self-conscious about how she looked. As she tried to resist the delicious biscuits and cakes that she so loved, she and Connie experimented briefly with the diet pill Dexedrine, an amphetamine that was popular among actresses and models of the era. The pills made Louise feel euphoric, creative, selfish--and not the least bit hungry. "Someone should've given me some when I was two and I would never have had a problem in the world," she told David Jackson. 

Two was the age Louise had been taken from Mary Louise to live with Millsaps, and she sometimes wondered what if she had stayed with her mother. Uppers couldn't change the past; nor could they provide lasting willpower against the temptations of sugar and butter. But for a brief while the Dexies gave Louise a powerful sense of control. When their unpleasant downside produced bad moods and hungry bingeing, Louise returned to the reliable, high caloric consolation of brandy.

(I'm not sure but I think this is it.)

 

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14 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Connie Ford, born in the Bronx in 1923, was an actress who began her career as a model for Victory Red lipstick during World War II. She had acted on Broadway, notably as Miss Forsyth in the original production of Death of a Salesman, as well as in movies and television. She mainly played character parts: prisoners, society ladies, saloon girls, witnesses, clients in legal dramas, and patients and nurses in medical programs. When she moved in with Louise, she was playing Eve Morris, a homicidal playhouse proprietor, in the soap opera The Edge of Night.

If Louise was worried that she was falling into an early, stodgy middle age, Connie was an immediate antidote. They had fun going to bars and parties together. Connie was lighthearted and their love affair a confection after the Sturm and Drang of breaking up with Alixe. Connie was also a good influence when it came to work ethic. She had her own demanding career with morning costume and make-up calls to meet, which encouraged Louise to discipline herself and write or revise several pages every day.

As an actress, Connie was always watching her weight, and Louise joined her in a mutual dieting regime. After a lifetime as a sylph, Louise was adding pounds and newly self-conscious about how she looked. As she tried to resist the delicious biscuits and cakes that she so loved, she and Connie experimented briefly with the diet pill Dexedrine, an amphetamine that was popular among actresses and models of the era. The pills made Louise feel euphoric, creative, selfish--and not the least bit hungry. "Someone should've given me some when I was two and I would never have had a problem in the world," she told David Jackson. 

Two was the age Louise had been taken from Mary Louise to live with Millsaps, and she sometimes wondered what if she had stayed with her mother. Uppers couldn't change the past; nor could they provide lasting willpower against the temptations of sugar and butter. But for a brief while the Dexies gave Louise a powerful sense of control. When their unpleasant downside produced bad moods and hungry bingeing, Louise returned to the reliable, high caloric consolation of brandy.

(I'm not sure but I think this is it.)

 

Thanks.  I find it very interesting.  

6 minutes ago, Mona Kane Croft said:

Thanks.  I find it very interesting.  

So glad. Me, too!

2 hours ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Connie Ford, born in the Bronx in 1923, was an actress who began her career as a model for Victory Red lipstick during World War II. She had acted on Broadway, notably as Miss Forsyth in the original production of Death of a Salesman, as well as in movies and television. She mainly played character parts: prisoners, society ladies, saloon girls, witnesses, clients in legal dramas, and patients and nurses in medical programs. When she moved in with Louise, she was playing Eve Morris, a homicidal playhouse proprietor, in the soap opera The Edge of Night.

If Louise was worried that she was falling into an early, stodgy middle age, Connie was an immediate antidote. They had fun going to bars and parties together. Connie was lighthearted and their love affair a confection after the Sturm and Drang of breaking up with Alixe. Connie was also a good influence when it came to work ethic. She had her own demanding career with morning costume and make-up calls to meet, which encouraged Louise to discipline herself and write or revise several pages every day.

As an actress, Connie was always watching her weight, and Louise joined her in a mutual dieting regime. After a lifetime as a sylph, Louise was adding pounds and newly self-conscious about how she looked. As she tried to resist the delicious biscuits and cakes that she so loved, she and Connie experimented briefly with the diet pill Dexedrine, an amphetamine that was popular among actresses and models of the era. The pills made Louise feel euphoric, creative, selfish--and not the least bit hungry. "Someone should've given me some when I was two and I would never have had a problem in the world," she told David Jackson. 

Two was the age Louise had been taken from Mary Louise to live with Millsaps, and she sometimes wondered what if she had stayed with her mother. Uppers couldn't change the past; nor could they provide lasting willpower against the temptations of sugar and butter. But for a brief while the Dexies gave Louise a powerful sense of control. When their unpleasant downside produced bad moods and hungry bingeing, Louise returned to the reliable, high caloric consolation of brandy.

(I'm not sure but I think this is it.)

 

Living in New York City with Connie, Louise gradually absorbed the changes with being the author of a best-selling book. Her royalties, at least, were concrete evidence of Harriet the Spy's success. The regular checks made her self-sufficient and independent at last from her family. Her first gift to herself was a beautiful 1965 Mercedes Benz  convertible with red leather upholstery. Harriet also gave Louise the clout to help her friends. She introduced aspiring writer and illustrator Jane Wagner to Ursula Nordstrom, and she lent money to Barbara Phelan, who wanted to get out of the city rat race--an ambition Louise shared.

(I thought there was going to be more about Connie, but there's not.)