1 hour ago, Contessa Donatella said:

I would never put Pete & Paul in the same category. 

I agree Donna.  Pete was brilliant, extremely arrogant, made some bad decisions that had a long term impact on Another World but seemed like a good man in general.  

Paul was brilliant, extremely arrogant, made some bad decisions that had a long term impact on Another World, was a bully, should have been fired for harassment and probably should have been sued by a few actors, actresses and staff.

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4 minutes ago, Efulton said:

Paul was brilliant, extremely arrogant, made some bad decisions that had a long term impact on Another World, was a bully, should have been fired for harassment and probably should have been sued by a few actors, actresses and staff.

I remember his treatment of Ellen Holly and I get nightmares. 

I was putting Rauch and Lemay in the same grouping because they worked together at the same time on the show. They are also known for not being exactly reliable about their contributions or versions about events on the show. Rauch's behaviour was much more egregious and disgusting, but Lemay could be cruel and dismissive of actors, and this is taking his own version of events as facts. I was also thinking about Ellen Holly tonight  when I wrote that post because I was watching a Family Feud episode where OLTL competed against GH on the show for charity. Ellen Holly was on there with Erika Slezak, Lee Patterson, Michael Storm, and a fifth person I can't recall at the moment.

8 hours ago, Maxim said:

And don't get me started on that spoiled brat nepo baby Amanda. She really gets on my nerve when she starts demanding things of her parents. She never really appreciates what Rachel and Mac do for her. Maybe it's my lack of prior viewing that makes me experience her like this, but that's how it is. I'm watching with virgin eyes and lack knowledge of past history. I admit my impressions are probably off and that's cool. I still have time to change them along the way. But for now...  I find Amanda the typical rich-first world problems-princess. Don't get me wrong - I kinda like her that way. I don't like to relate to everyone and I like the characters to irritate me at times - it means they are making me feel emotion. She is not a bad person, but she comes off spoiled, ungrateful and also gullible and easily manipulated (we saw that with Iris... who won her over with few fake compliments and a job offer. AFTER her OWN MOTHER asked her not to trust Iris) 

And... Sam... is the type of guy that would have probably made me fall in love when I was in my early 20s. That's why I find him corny and stand-offish. Mr. Big Artiste... that is scrabbing bizarre portraits of babies... and his mother in law buys him a gallery. Then he acts like HOW DARE you give me a gallery... B-tch, appreciate what Rachel gave you, because you are no Michelangelo. The biddies at the gallery opening shared my thoughts, as I recall - they were not impressed. Also... people should not feel guilty that they are rich and powerful while you are not. And it's something he constantly gaslits Amanda into experiencing guilt about. If he wants to be poor and unsuccessful - let him. That would be so easy. 

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I can totally see what you mean about Amanda & in fact she is quite spoiled. She could hardly not be with the way she grew up. Mac alone spoiled her. Not even counting anything from Rachel. Sam is just as you say. He really has a blind spot when it comes to the fact that the Corys have a lot of money. He always has.

 

6 hours ago, Maxim said:

I remember his treatment of Ellen Holly and I get nightmares. 

Yes, Paul at OLTL was worse than he was at AW.

8 hours ago, Efulton said:

I agree Donna.  Pete was brilliant, extremely arrogant, made some bad decisions that had a long term impact on Another World but seemed like a good man in general.  

Paul was brilliant, extremely arrogant, made some bad decisions that had a long term impact on Another World, was a bully, should have been fired for harassment and probably should have been sued by a few actors, actresses and staff.

Great summary of both men.

In the vein of giving credit where its due, I will say one really good thing about Paul Rauch. At the time of his death he was actively putting together people who might have been able to provide a new venue for GL, which had just been canceled by CBS.

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6 hours ago, chrisml said:

I was putting Rauch and Lemay in the same grouping because they worked together at the same time on the show.

I see what you mean. They were a pair at AW also with Friends & Lovers which was later called For Richer, For Poorer. Not a spin-off but a crossover.

6 hours ago, chrisml said:

They are also known for not being exactly reliable about their contributions or versions about events on the show. Rauch's behaviour was much more egregious and disgusting, but Lemay could be cruel and dismissive of actors, and this is taking his own version of events as facts. I was also thinking about Ellen Holly tonight  when I wrote that post because I was watching a Family Feud episode where OLTL competed against GH on the show for charity. Ellen Holly was on there with Erika Slezak, Lee Patterson, Michael Storm, and a fifth person I can't recall at the moment.

Paul's history (& also Joe Stuart) with Ellen Holly is truly appalling. And, then, of course, he was I guess you'd say abusive to Maeve Kincaid. And, I'm sure there were more.

In comparison Pete was a man with a giant ego & not much more than that. The ways he was difficult especially with actors was, as we know, a problem. But in the larger picture, he did a lot more good than bad. I fault him for the firing of Jacquie Courtney.

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17 hours ago, Maxim said:

I love this scene. I've loved all Harding Lemay episodes I've seen. 

Wow....what a powerhouse of a scene. It explains the backstory of the characters without feeling like boring recapping. Rachel also gets her bitchy streak back! You can only wonder how much more of scenes like this we would have gotten had Lemay been allowed to stay.

35 minutes ago, 1974mdp said:

Wow....what a powerhouse of a scene. It explains the backstory of the characters without feeling like boring recapping. Rachel also gets her bitchy streak back! You can only wonder how much more of scenes like this we would have gotten had Lemay been allowed to stay.

When you say something like this, oh boy, what a true thing you have said.

On 11/14/2024 at 3:35 PM, Contessa Donatella said:

Since we had this great lucky find, Eddie says that we could be on the lookout for these: 

Unverified: ALF, Biography: Ray Liotta, Falling Over Backwards, Hunter, Valerie's Home Cooking.

I may have found the ALF reference, although it is just a mention of the title, no characters or storyline referenced and no clip or anything.

The neighbour played by Helen Sheridan caught a glimpse of ALF in the backyard and has come over in a panic saying she saw a monster.  When she says it looked like something from another world, her skeptical and unhelpful husband says "the soap opera?"

S2E3, about 5 minutes in here.

That is really hilarious!

I had no idea that AW was going to do a storyline about the devil. Was Carl involved? I read up thread he “called” the devil? What exactly aired before the story was scrapped?

6 minutes ago, Matt Powers said:

I had no idea that AW was going to do a storyline about the devil. Was Carl involved? I read up thread he “called” the devil? What exactly aired before the story was scrapped?

I don't think any of it made it to air. AFAIK the only DOOLish thing was when Tomas said he thought he'd seen a vampire at the hospital. Does anyone else remember anything else?

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I did a little bit of searching to see if I could get a bead on the Hunter reference in Eddie's list and didn't find anything specific. However I did find this site which appears to have transcripts of dialogue from episodes of the show. I did not see any way to search inside the transcripts without opening each episode up individually and that is not something I am about to undertake in the foreseeable future, especially without knowing whether the actual phrase "Another World" is the string to search for.

https://subslikescript.com/series/Hunter-86734#google_vignette

4 hours ago, Contessa Donatella said:

I can totally see what you mean about Amanda & in fact she is quite spoiled. She could hardly not be with the way she grew up. Mac alone spoiled her. Not even counting anything from Rachel. Sam is just as you say. He really has a blind spot when it comes to the fact that the Corys have a lot of money. He always has.

Absolutely. And I think it's great (for the sake of the drama) that in a way Rachel's spoiled children are her Achilles's heel.  

20 minutes ago, Maxim said:

Absolutely. And I think it's great (for the sake of the drama) that in a way Rachel's spoiled children are her Achilles's heel.  

Oh, yes, absolutely! Especially given how much trouble Rachel was for her mother, Ada. So, it is a kind of perfection that Rachel gets paid back both by Amanda & then later by Matthew. Although Matt was never the kind of problem child that Amanda really always was. Two of Matt's relationships were challenges for Rachel. One you know about already, Josie. Much later Matt has this amazing relationship that I don't want to spoil for you. So, mum's the word on that.

43 minutes ago, Xanthe said:

I did a little bit of searching to see if I could get a bead on the Hunter reference in Eddie's list and didn't find anything specific. However I did find this site which appears to have transcripts of dialogue from episodes of the show. I did not see any way to search inside the transcripts without opening each episode up individually and that is not something I am about to undertake in the foreseeable future, especially without knowing whether the actual phrase "Another World" is the string to search for.

https://subslikescript.com/series/Hunter-86734#google_vignette

I don't know if you know this or not. But, if the scripts are pdf files, there is a pdf utility that lets you search multiple files at one time.