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Bev scored a film role in Bronco Billy because Sondra Locke (Clint Eastwood's then partner )was a fan. I have never seen that movie as it holds zilch interest for me,but it would be interesting to see BM in another role.

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I was wondering if you or anyone else would be interested in any of the stuff when Ellen Wheeler and Tom Eplin were together in real life; they were interviewed and on the cover, in 1986. I didn't know if someone might feel that was too much about their personal lives and are only interested in the characters.

If there are any actors you're interested in let me know and I'll try to find something.

Yes, I'd be curious about that stuff. I wasn't reading the soap mags at the time and the whole Eplin/Wheeler thing is something I've always been curious about.

I was going to ask you, were there any AW actors you wished had been on Santa Barbara, or vice/versa?

In my fanfic, I cast Victoria Wyndham and Charles Keating as new characters, so them. I think a menacing Keating would have fit right in on SB. I also think that Lisa Peluso's humor and Anne Heche's raw talent could have definitely added something to SB. William Grey Espy would have been a good actor to bring over and pair with Sophia or Gina. I also would have been interested to see Alicia Coppola take on BJ and think that Cali Timmins would have made a FAR better Kelly recast than Eileen Davidson, since the Dobsons clearly wanted to do away with my Carrington. And, not that it ever should have been done, but over the years, I think a blonde Julie Osburn may have made an interesting Eden recast.

But my BIGGEST wish, which is why I cast her that way in my fanfic, is that Carmen Duncan had played the role of Pamela Capwell Conrad. I think she would have been PERFECT for the part and much better suited than Marj Dusay or Shirley Anne Field were.

As for SB actors moving over to AW, I think Lane Davies would have been great over there. I think he could have had much chemistry with any number of the AW vets- Donna, Felicia, or even Rachel all would have been great with him. Nancy Grahn is another one who would have been good. I think she would have made an interesting Nicole Love recast. I also think Carrington Garland would have made a very effective Amanda or Paulina. And while there were rumors of Mason & Julia being sent over there, I think Robin Mattson's Gina and Justin Deas' Keith would have been better choices to jettison to Bay City.

How many actors did the shows share anyway? It doesn't seem like that many.

To tell you the truth, I'm hard pressed to think of ANY actors the 2 shows shared. Come to think of it, I believe Judith McConnell was on AW back in the day, but that was before I was born. :lol:

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I will post those in a day or two.

I wonder if they should have cast Nancy or MJ or Cheryl as Laken Lockridge.

I love your ideas. You have a real passion for these shows.

Thanks to your post I went back and watched another episode from August 91. August 23. You can see how far behind I am. I really don't like Spencer much at all. I do like the Frankie/Ryan friendship. They're very believable.

I don't like Michael's paternalistic attitude towards Rachel. I love the scene where she insists she's going to see Carl whether Michael likes it or not, and then she tells him he can drive, and she throws the keys at him (given her visions problems the idea of her driving scares me anyway -- it would remind me of Simpsons Hit and Run, with Dean muttering "Ladykillerladykiller" as he goes over the windshield). And then her locking eyes with Carl as she knows he tried to kill her. Then her attempt to hide her fear when he threatens to get close to Amanda. Victoria Wyndham was fantastic in those scenes. I missed that fire in Rachel in later years.

Did it seem odd to you that Marley thought Jamie had feelings for Paulina?

Here's McConnell. It's always tough for me to remember she was in her 30s when she was on AW and ATWT. She looks older to me.

http://www.igs.net/~awhp/1miranda.html

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Interesting, I'd wondered what was the story behind her casting, if her agent had simply sent her out for that type-specific audition or what. I sat through BB for Beverlee on cable years back. A fan has uploaded just her scenes:

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Now I want to see Ione and Iris together.

Iris: ::sigh:: I just don't understand what Daddy sees in that woman.

Ione: The Good Lord told me there is a reason a father is a father and a husband is a husband.

Iris: Exactly what are you implying?

Ione: I have floors to clean. Find your answers in His Word.

<as Ione leaves, Iris pensively stares at the Bible>

Iris: I think I'm just going to have a cocktail...

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Wow! If Miranda was after Mac, that means McConnell must have shared scenes with Vicky Wyndham. I'd have been very interested to see their work together- I could very much see them being a formidable duo.

Poor Judith though. I think every show she's ever been cast on has made her play older than her actual age. You would never guess she was in her 30s in the pictures from AW which seems purposeful considering the character & storyline description. And then on Santa Barbara, she was in her early 40s and clearly, the character was intended to be well over 40. I believe they even had her dye her hair grey, as they did the same when Jed Allan came on as CC.

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A Youtune user who runs a great Felicia channel put up some clips from the Christmas Eve 1986 episode (I think they also uploaded Christmas Day 1986 a while back). Some really beautiful stuff with Felicia and Mitch and Wallingford. The rest is OK, although it mostly makes me sad -- seeing poor MJ and knowing what nasty stuff they did to her after this, and I can't believe they gave Quinn this relationship with Zak where they had such chemistry, only to kill her off. Does anyone know if they started this story and the story with Nancy and Tony Carlisle knowing they were firing the actresses, or did that happen after the stories started? I did laugh at the scenes where Tony and Nancy first met - such cheese.

There's also Rhonda Lewin Vicky in here, and the always dull Janine Turner.

I'll just show the first clip - there are 4 in total.

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I never understood why the show didn't ultimately reunite Jake & Paulina. Their chemistry blew Jake & Vicky's out of the water. And boy, is that an ugly dress, Paulina!

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That never made a lot of sense to me either, and the story seemed to change very abruptly thanks to JFP. My guess is she saw Paulina as unworthy.

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Peter Ratray (Quentin Ames): I watched my wife have a Caesarian

DAYTIME TV – October 1977

Peter Ratray, the new Quentin Ames, on Another World is so completely devoted to his two sons, Luke, 5, and Devin, born January 11, that he calls them “extraordinary.”

He recalls that when Luke was born, he managed to sneak around the delivery room and peek at the Caesarian birth.

But when his wife, actress Ann Willis, was being prepped for the second Caesarian, she told the nurse, “ I want my husband to be in the delivery room.”

Having a non-medic in the delivery room is illegal in California, but a sympathetic nurse arranged for Peter to don a surgical gown and mask, pretend he was a new intern, and wheel Ann into the delivery room.

“By the time the operation was over, half the hospital knew I wasn't real intern, but nobody snitched on me, “ recalls Peter. “I saw my son being born! A profound experience!”

“A Caesarian is the second bloodiest operation,” he explains.”It bothered me to see the initial cut into her belly. But I was most concerned with Ann, who was given only a local anesthetic because she had bronchial pneumonia and couldn't take full anesthetic.”

Being followers of the new La Boyer method, Peter had the baby briefly in his arms within three minutes after birth, “ I bathed him in warm water and put him on Ann's body and within 10 minutes he was smiling... and he hasn't stopped smiling ever since.”

It was one of the most emotional moments of his life. “there's no way to describe the depths of emotion... between husband and wife...father and child...”

Most people think actors can't raise children properly, but Peter insists he's spent more time with his son, Luke, than fathers in so-called conventional professions. “One of the good things about being an actor is that you don't work consistently and so you have more time with your kids. I've been with Luke from the minute he was born. We are so close! It's very deep relationship.”

“Luke is very secure and loving!”

When Peter and Ann went on the road for 10 months with Tab Hunter in the play, Here Lies Jeremy Troy, they had their son along. “Our contract specified we had to be given an apartment, and a babysitter, so that Luke was out of sight only 3 hours a night. And it was great experience for a kid, he saw a lot and learned a lot!”

A proud father, he feels Luke is extraordinary. “If I could teach him anything, it would be to have no fear...If I can give him anything it would be emotional security. Luke is a very together boy. He's very secure emotionally!”

He and Ann wondered if they had spoiled Luke so that he wouldn't welcome the arrival of a little brother.” But there has not been one moment of jealousy by Luke.”

Peter (son of David and Edith Ratray, spelled that way) was born on Jan, 3 in Kingston Ontario, Canada, but his parents moved to the U.S. when Peter was 3. In 1960, when Peter was 17, and had finished two years at Ohio State University, he quit to take the bus to New York. He had $60 in his pocket and knew no one in the big city.

Four years later, struggling to get started as a stage actor, he was cast opposite red-haired Ann Willis, in Separate Rooms, at the Allenbury Playhouse in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. “It was instant dislike!”

But a couple of years later, on June 18, 1964 they married in a church ceremony in New York, with the families on both sides attending.

After the wedding party, Peter and Ann checked into the elegant Palm Hotel for a single night – which was all they could afford!

“We had a fancy dinner and saw a show, and it all cost $120! And when we checked out, we were flat broke... and had to walk 30 blocks to my apartment.”

But do you think they were scare? “No! I was too young to be scared. We felt everything was terrific and that the world would be ours!” Everything was an adventure for them!

Of course, now that they have two children, they are more cautious and frugal, Peter admits.

They quit New York in 1968 to try their luck in Hollywood. The following year, Peter landed the role of Stuart Pierce in Bright Promise, and it ran until 1971. “I was lucky in Hollywood, working all the time!” They moved into an old 7-room house, and Peter did a lot of remodeling. But when he tried to rewire a lamp, he was knocked off his feet by an electrical shock...and he's never tired electrical repairs since!

He kept busy with nighttime TV, was featured in the series, The New People. Did some movies and lots of stage work. He even tried stage directing and loved the challenge. He's worked with his wife professionally and expects her back acting after their new baby is old enough.

Early this year when Another World was looking for new faces, Pater read for Paul Rauch, executive producer and won the role. He had to move to New York quickly, check into a hotel, then start looking for an apartment. “Ann and our sons will join me in New York just as soon as I find an apartment. We might sublet our Hollywood home.”

Does he regret leaving sunny California? “No! I got tired of the clean air and the sun. It's too bland and you slow up and lose your ambitions. California actors always seem to be on their way to the beach. I like New York better. People even seem to be more creative and energetic.”

“California is perfect if you work all the time. It's awful when you are out of work!”

He says it was pleasant when he showed up at Another World to find two former Bright Promise castmates there, Jennifer Leak and Gary Carpenter. On Bright Promise, the cast became good friend. I still see most of them. Pamela Murphy came over to say good-bye the day I left for New York. Lesley Woods was in a play Come Blow Your Horn, that I directed and which toured dinner theaters. Gail Kobe is now with Proctor and Gamble and I'd see her when she'd come to Hollywood”

He has that California outdoor look: blond, blue eyes, six-foot, lean, muscular, and tanned. But right now he's very much a New Yorker.

"Now there seems to be more pride in the city! People seem to care more. I think our sons will gain more by living in the big city. California makes you soft, but New York men have more edge. They're tougher, more street-wise. It's interesting how troubles bring out he best in us...”

By Paul Dennis

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Thank you for sharing this with us. I mostly remember Peter from his role on Ryan's Hope as Delia's sleazy broker. To put it mildly, I LOATHED that storyline, I despised it, so now thanks to you I don't have to associate my memories of this actor with that mess.

It's nice that the Bright Promise cast kept in such contact. I wonder if they're still close, those who are still with us.

When they say "the new Quentin Ames", do they mean that he was new to the show or that someone played Quentin before him? AWHP says he was the first (May to December 1977), with Peter Michael Goetz playing the role for one day in November 1979.

Apparently Peter returned in 1995 to play Justine's assistant, Christophe.

The son mentioned here has gone on to quite a few roles.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0711864/

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