Members Khan Posted April 28, 2009 Members Share Posted April 28, 2009 Hey, don't get upset with me, lol! I just responded to your post as honestly and forthright as I could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members All My Shadows Posted April 28, 2009 Members Share Posted April 28, 2009 Ditto. I ache for a US soap set in a rural/farm-type of town. The networks would ruin the crap out of it, though, because that type of thing wouldn't work as a plot,plot,plot,plot,plot/shock,shock,shock,shock,shock show. But that is totally not ATWT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DavidEvanSmith Posted April 28, 2009 Members Share Posted April 28, 2009 LOL, no drama, I just knew as I posted that I'd get a response like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cat Posted April 28, 2009 Members Share Posted April 28, 2009 I'm a nostalgia buff. So of course I prefer the original openings! All the woozy 70s music and tight imagery? All over it. When I first started watching soaps as a little kid, those old skool openings were a BIG part of the attraction. If I was watching Days, I would sometimes flip over to AMC at 1.02pm just to catch that music and book-flipping hoo-ha. And I would flip over between Santa Barbara and GH constantly at 3.02pm because both their openings gave me goosebumps. Now look at the crap we have today. Those new openings must have cost money the soaps do not have and they are, as David pointed out, a bland, generic mess. B&B jettisoned its thrilling opening of gorgeous stills for some grey sh!t? WTF? Don't get me started on GH which starts ok and then quickly deteriorates into the opening titles for "Leeza." As for OLTL, I liked it when Snoop Dogg did the opening music. OLTL has gone through a TON of openings, though, hasn't it? It has not been easy for this show to conceptualize in 15 seconds what it is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members brimike Posted April 28, 2009 Members Share Posted April 28, 2009 ROFLMAO!!!!! It hasn't been easy for OLTL to conceptualize in 15 minutes what it's about. At least back with the old "Pennsylvania Exteriors" opening, you got a feel for the show. But the credits of OLTL right now perfectly point out what's really wrong with the show at the moment - it really doesn't know what it is. It goes from paralysis to leukemia to serial killer to Vickeroshi, and there's no real identity. (Sorry, RTR - just my opinion) And the fact that its opening credits are so generic proves that they when they came up with the "icons" with the new ABC openings (AMC and the photo album, and GH and the ambulance), they just chose to go with a couple flying windows jetting across the screen like a PC screensaver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Faulkner Posted April 28, 2009 Members Share Posted April 28, 2009 I'd like these new openings...IF THEY UPDATED THEM IN A TIMELY WAY. For instance, why are Babe, Greenlee, and Dre STILL in AMC's opening? It's just tacky and unprofessional. I'd rather they'd kept just the book and let it be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cat Posted April 28, 2009 Members Share Posted April 28, 2009 Watching OLTL last week, I thought the show had a cohesive identity. It is different from AMC and GH. The problem is that OLTL encapsulates a lot of Big Themes like families, darkness, humor, race, class, love and death. It is about life in a Pennsylvania city dominated by a couple of wealthy clans. The irony of the name -- "one Life To Live" -- when compared with Viki's multiple lives was always clever, I thought. The problem with this is that these Big Universal Themes are many -- and many are intangible. Back in the early 90s, they tried to visualize that and we got the shattered mirror, tears-in-the-mirror opening. Which would look kitschy now. Hell, it looked kitschy then. Perhaps all it needs is a real simple opening --- all (or most of) the contract actors looking into the camera. But it needs better music (whoever is doing it needs to throw out their Texas Instruments synthesizer) and a bolder logo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members brimike Posted April 28, 2009 Members Share Posted April 28, 2009 I hear ya, Cat. And yeah - I always loved the irony of the name vs. the DID. That's why I loved the Peabo opening. It had this small-city-dominated-by-a-couple-rich-families feel to it, so I totally understood the theme back then and it worked for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cat Posted April 28, 2009 Members Share Posted April 28, 2009 Oh, forgot to add: OLTL feels like a New York soap to me. Not just that it is produced in NY, but that it could easily be set there. If the show woke up one day and referred to NYC instead of Llanview, it might not be such a huge leap of imagination for the audience. I don't know anyway to explain it without using a bunch of NYC clichés about the glitz and granite and snark and grit of the city! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members brimike Posted April 28, 2009 Members Share Posted April 28, 2009 I would actually kind of love that. (Ducking for cover now!) NOT a "Loving-into-The-City" change. But yeah - OLTL totally has an NYC feel to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members quartermainefan Posted April 28, 2009 Members Share Posted April 28, 2009 AMC's original theme song was so pretty compared to the shlock that came after it. It needed no updating. I also don't see why every soap went the same route of showing or listing the actors. Days didn't. What does it matter if you show the actors in the opening, the show is the star not the cast of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cat Posted April 28, 2009 Members Share Posted April 28, 2009 ^^ I ::loved:: AMC's original theme song. It was timeless. I like the current theme, I guess, but they could have easily kept the original, like Days and Y&R have. By the way, in the early 90s, ATWT had an awesome opening theme song. Then they changed it to sap. GL had a GREAT disco opening in the early 80s (go YouTube it, it is well worth the hunt) and their Rondinelle closing theme was utterly gorgeous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members All My Shadows Posted April 28, 2009 Members Share Posted April 28, 2009 IMO, it works for some, but not for others. ATWT didn't have to go there. If they were going to go there, they should have went the way of the other P&G soaps and stuck to using episode clips. GL's 80s openings were pretty much clip montages set to music (bo-ring!! but the music kicked ass), but Hold on to Love was awesome because it used clips and had a nice concept to tie them up in. I always thought ATWT could have took their 90s opening and instead of the nature scenes (which I loved then and still love now), put clips in the letters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members quartermainefan Posted April 28, 2009 Members Share Posted April 28, 2009 Someone on YT had this salute to Ruth Warrick which uses the real AMC theme so prettily. I just can't see how any of the stuff that followed improved on it, musically anyway. "> " type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Paul Raven Posted April 29, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 29, 2009 Re Days-when the second half of MacDonald Carey's intro was dropped,I would have loved to have heard, "This is Frances Reid,and these are the Days of Our Lives" Another World should have retained the concentric circles and the linked 'o's' in it's updates.I hated everything about the Crystal Gayle opening!-the crappy song,graphics and lettering. When GL was going through it's first budget cuts,Ellen Wheeler intro's a new opening,which is then dumped for the cheapy 70th anni opening. Y&R-what's the problem with an update.Surely,one of the priorities when planning a new opening is that it can be quickly and cheaply updated. At the moment,the following contract characters are not represented Cane Billy Lily Chloe Mary Jane Paul Jana Amber Ashley Mac Esther Tyra(is she contract?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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