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OLTL: Discussion for the week April 13

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Did Pamela Stuart ever have an exit? Isn't she still hanging around the Palace or something? I never got that...

God, now I realize why they never brought Zach back before--the actor *sucks*--it's hard to take a killer seriously when he uses the tone of voice (and lisp) with EVERY single line.

But I'm all for the Woleks and Larry coming back :D

Actually she did. When we last saw Pamela Stuart, Dorian had paid her to back up her claims about Jared not being a Buchanan. I remember her looking at Jared and telling him "sorry kid." Then Dorian told her she had a limo to escort her out of Llanview, and Pamela walked out the door.

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I honestly think that was just a bone for the Jared and Natalie fans who've had nothing to watch but the same conversation over and over again. They've barely been on, and when they have all they ever talk about is whether or not to tell. So voila! Give them a love scene to keep their fans engaged -- and I don't think we're going to be seeing much of them after the christening.

I didn't have a problem with them making love. Just the camera angles were all weird. The show starts out with a shot of Jared's glistening chest, then in the next act we see the camera over Jared and Natalie talking, while showing MA's stellar cleavage showing while she's wearing lingerie.

You won't get no complaints out of me about those two getting it on rather than having the same convo as they had three weeks ago.

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Did Pamela Stuart ever have an exit? Isn't she still hanging around the Palace or something? I never got that...

God, now I realize why they never brought Zach back before--the actor *sucks*--it's hard to take a killer seriously when he uses the tone of voice (and lisp) with EVERY single line.

But I'm all for the Woleks and Larry coming back :D

Aww I really like Zack :)

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Even if Frons is dictating storyline which I believe he is and has been doing for awhile even during Highley's reign, isn't Ron the one scripting it. I can't understand how it is so easy to excuse the actual writers for what is being shown. Are your suggesting that Frons is actually writing some of this stuff?

And to tell the truth I wasn't all that impressed with OLTL pre-strike either, there were alot of misses during that time.

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Even if Frons is dictating storyline which I believe he is and has been doing for awhile even during Highley's reign, isn't Ron the one scripting it. I can't understand how it is so easy to excuse the actual writers for what is being shown. Are your suggesting that Frons is actually writing some of this stuff?

And to tell the truth I wasn't all that impressed with OLTL pre-strike either, there were alot of misses during that time.

No, he's not scripting it. But he may (and I emphasize may) be insisting they speed things up and have more "OMG!" moments and less emotional character moments (i.e. "boring" and "talky"), which leads to writing multiple scenes of characters in a state of hysteria.

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But I'm all for the Woleks and Larry coming back

I wish I were for that, too, but I'm scared of what the network would do with one of my favorite Llanview families.

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No, he's not scripting it. But he may (and I emphasize may) be insisting they speed things up and have more "OMG!" moments and less emotional character moments (i.e. "boring" and "talky"), which leads to writing multiple scenes of characters in a state of hysteria.

I do agree I think he is dictating storyline, but if we are to let Ron off the hook for the actual writing shouldn't we let Higley off the hook during her time as headwriter also because I do believe he was dictating scripts at that time also.

I am just not understanding why we should blame Frons yet not hold Ron accountable for what is being shown on the show now, he is given credit when the show was well received but now it's not his fault.

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I do agree I think he is dictating storyline, but if we are to let Ron off the hook for the actual writing shouldn't we let Higley off the hook during her time as headwriter also because I do believe he was dictating scripts at that time also.

I am just not understanding why we should blame Frons yet not hold Ron accountable for what is being shown on the show now, he is given credit when the show was well received but now it's not his fault.

That's a really interesting point, and one I'm not sure I can argue against. I guess the only difference I would argue is that RC proved he was capable of doing better. Not saying it was perfect - that's a personal preference. Some loved his early stories, some didn't. But you have to admit it was better than what we're seeing now. And as much as I usually say not to put too much stock in what actors say, it does help his cause that so many actors remain in his corner, which was not the case under Higley.

Days fans had the same issues with Sheffer. His defenders talked about interference, but the stories he came up with to replace what got thrown out (Tinda Lau, Touch the Sky) were still terrible. Not to get off-topic, or get into another DOOL discussion - just making an analogy. So yes - in that regard, RC should be held accountable. But I can only imagine what it must be like to suddenly have to invent something to fill five hours a week on the spot because you just got the rug pulled out from under you. But you're right - that doesn't mean they should be completely off-the-hook either.

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Viki and Charlie are LOVE :P

Yep....too bad Clint almost ruined it.

I guess it's back to the attic for Charlie....they dusted him off for today for his monthly episode, and now it's back into storage. Viki too.

Damn, so many things about this show sucks right now.

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Yep....too bad Clint almost ruined it.

I guess it's back to the attic for Charlie....they dusted him off for today for his monthly episode, and now it's back into storage. Viki too.

Damn, so many things about this show sucks right now.

NOOO, don't say that. :P I hate to lose Viki and Charlie after them being all cute today. :D

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NOOO, don't say that. :P I hate to lose Viki and Charlie after them being all cute today. :D

Well, they did seem giddy today, that's for sure. :D

But I like Viki and Charlie and hope that we see more of them.

BTW, Charlie has already been on more this month than last, and Viki is catching up to last month's total as well.

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Viki and Charlie are LOVE :P

Yes, they are!!! I loved their scenes today and I so wanted to see Viki slam that door in Clint's face and tell him to come back tomorrow. LOL

Well, they did seem giddy today, that's for sure. :D

But I like Viki and Charlie and hope that we see more of them.

BTW, Charlie has already been on more this month than last, and Viki is catching up to last month's total as well.

They should be on for the christening which starts Thursday, or I hope they are anyway.

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