It should have been more lighthearted with sober moments. Instead most of it felt like a wake.

That's kinda the point, isn't it? Billy doesn't really want to be married to Chloe and he's doing it just so that they can get a leg up in the custody case for Delia.

It's so hard to have sympathy for any involved, least of all Nick. As much as I love Nick and Phyllis together, after today I wanted her to go home, pack up her and Summer's sh!t and leave Nick's ass high and dry. This man is full of bitchassness! He'll never take responsibility for the fact that he's set all of this in motion with both women loosing it. Jack warned this fool but of course he never listens. It's like oatmeal is where his brain should be.

As a huge Nick supporter -- thanks, honestly, to LML where I really liked what he became with Phyllis -- he is so down on my list I can't believe it.

Total *sshole!

Thus, I would love it if both Sharon and Phyllis shut him out. I'd like to see him alone, contrite, and going back to making decisions with integrity. Honestly, I think for him Phyllis is his "Ashley", and Sharon is his "Nikki". So, he can't help from meddling in Sharon's business, even when they are estranged.

I wonder if they will ever deal with the fact that the way Nick treats his women comes from the example his father has shown him. Nick is more like Nikki than Victor, but when it comes to his relationship skills with women....

Jill has always hated her humble beginnings and hates anyone that reminds her of that. Its hypocritical, yet understandable. Jess was excellent today.

Well, for me, this has been a revelation. You're right...escaping her humble roots was what caused Jill to work for Mrs. Chancellor, fall in love with Phillip, fight for his estate, pursue Derek (esp. after he got rich), marry and get pregnant by John. The way she screwed him that first divorce.... Being Kay's daughter totally fell into her idealized self.

Jill has been economically secure for so long, I totally forgot about that "low class terrified beast" beating within her. It has been wonderful to see this story awaken all of that in her again.

Only when it's called for.

Colleen presently is exactly what she should be. She is an Abbott and she is fiercely protective of her family. She doesn't want Billy to get into a marriage that she (and everyone else except maybe Esther) knows he doesn't want. Colleen sees Chloe for what she is. She saw the way Chloe manipulated Lily and Cane, and she doesn't forgive easily.

I understand you don't like the current Colleen. In fact, I understand you hate her. And that's fine.

I don't presume to know what everyone is thinking! I'm not going to get into another argument about TS and if there are fans that like her, fine (I'm glad they can enjoy the character)! That said, I understand how and why they are writing Colleen, no explanation needed there (they are obviously trying to cater to TS strengths). The point I was trying to make was, Colleen is 'picking' on Chloe by being bitchy to her therefore gaining sympathy from some (just as she did when AL played her and she went off on Victoria). Also, with the writers showing the audience that Billy indeed doesn't want to marry Chloe and is whoring around on her is another way she is gaining sympathy (redemption). Why on earth she would want to marry someone who she knows doesn't love her is beyond me.

MTS looked fabulous in that pink suit; glowing actually! I loved Chloe's dress (yes EH looked fab!) a far cry better than her rehearsal dress, which the stand in Maid of Honor must have been inspired from (another hideous dress).

I realize the theme of the wedding was the 40's but I hated the music!

I actually enjoyed the Nick/Sharon scenes, very tender.

Billy's look on his face when Mac walked in... priceless!

I loved the nod to Jill's background in comparison to Murphy; sweet!

I really enjoyed this episode and Beau Kazer being there made it all complete; how I've missed him.

Edited April 3, 200916 yr by Heyou

Queenie over at usenet says Esther should be Kay's daughter.

How I'd love that. Much better than Gloria! And I love even more that it would make Chloe (Katherine-the-second) a Chancellor!

With her biggest wish fulfilled, it might fill the hole in Chloe's soul. She could then move forward being a little less desperate. First move: Kick that manwhore Billy to the curb!

We're never hopefully going to encounter Jill's real mother and Katherine's real daughter, and I'd like for it to stay that way...

Queenie over at usenet says Esther should be Kay's daughter.

I kinda wish they wouldn't reveal who is Kay's daughter or Jill's mother for a long time. Eventually, yes, but not anytime soon.

Jill would self-implode if Esther was Mrs. C.'s daughter. I wonder how they're going to handle the legal ramifications of Kay's non-death and the house being divided by Esther and Jill. Obviously it's all void as she isn't really dead, but it seems a little weird to be like *zoink* gimme back my money and Esther get back into your uniform. I'm pretty sure that they'll spare Esther that and she'll never have to be Kay's maid again. I sure hope so at least, I don't want some sappy, "Mrs. C., it would be my pleasure to serve you until you die for realz" crap.

I agree not to rush it, but I would like to see JC play out the story of finding her daughter. I'd like to see Jill find her natural mother too. We got all wrapped up in recasting Jill last week, I'd be interested to see what the show comes up with in terms of casting those two parts. And poor Jill, maybe her biological mother's passed on by this point. The ages don't match up, but it would be crazy if she was the result of one of Dina's flings.

At any rate, I really enjoyed today's ep, I thought to myself, Why don't I watch this show more often? These things don't matter to everybody, but I can't deny that I am very drawn in by the look of the show, it is beautiful.

Jill would self-implode if Esther was Mrs. C.'s daughter. I wonder how they're going to handle the legal ramifications of Kay's non-death and the house being divided by Esther and Jill. Obviously it's all void as she isn't really dead, but it seems a little weird to be like *zoink* gimme back my money and Esther get back into your uniform. I'm pretty sure that they'll spare Esther that and she'll never have to be Kay's maid again. I sure hope so at least, I don't want some sappy, "Mrs. C., it would be my pleasure to serve you until you die for realz" crap.

She has Chloe around now, she she can just live in the house without being a real maid. She can still take care of stuff.

I agree not to rush it, but I would like to see JC play out the story of finding her daughter. I'd like to see Jill find her natural mother too. We got all wrapped up in recasting Jill last week, I'd be interested to see what the show comes up with in terms of casting those two parts. And poor Jill, maybe her biological mother's passed on by this point. The ages don't match up, but it would be crazy if she was the result of one of Dina's flings.

But that means she would be Jack's half sister, and they had an affair. Ew.

We're never hopefully going to encounter Jill's real mother and Katherine's real daughter, and I'd like for it to stay that way...

I agree. As you've stated several times in the last few weeks, this should be only about Katherine and Jill! Jill first and foremost needs a new man to help her through this

Where's Larry these days?

Where's Larry these days?

He could give some much-needed lovin' to Jill.

Last we saw him he was taking Sharon on a motorcycle ride after Cassie's accident. I believe we got no indication about where he is.

He could give some much-needed lovin' to Jill.

Last we saw him he was taking Sharon on a motorcycle ride after Cassie's accident. I believe we got no indication about where he is.

He also sent flowers and a little letter for Katherine at her "funeral" in November. Jill said he was attending some motor convention or something and couldn't make it.

Loved this also from today:

Jill: What's so damn wonderful about it? We were better off thinking she was dead. I am so sick of pretending with you people! You never understood that the reason she's hated me all these years is because her husband preferred ME! Because Phillip loved me even though I was poor, and it just galled you, didn't it? She heaped abuse on me, she called me trailer trash a million times and now she's marrying it! How poetic is that?

Edited April 3, 200916 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

Wow, what a great line. I'm a bit behind with my viewing, but can't wait to see that.

Janice Ferri Esser did a wonderful job on the script. I'm so glad that she's back cause they usually use her for the "big" episodes.

Janice Ferri Esser did a wonderful job on the script. I'm so glad that she's back cause they usually use her for the "big" episodes.

Yes, she usually writers whenever a large amount of history is used in the episode... Y&R needed her.

She has Chloe around now, she she can just live in the house without being a real maid. She can still take care of stuff.

But that means she would be Jack's half sister, and they had an affair. Ew.

Exactly. Just like she and Brock made out back in the day. Again, the ages don't match up, it won't happen... just a zany soapy thought.

Yes these two ladies have had a helluva lot of drama recently, but after a breather, I don't believe that they'll just drop any and all inclinations to seek out their natural mother and daughter.