The only reason why I have SN is backup for when my ABC network is preempted. But I record and archive scenes I like to keep, so how could I possibly do it from online?

You wouldn't be able to. ABC/SoapNet only wants viewers that watch their shows the whole way through. DVR is not what they're interested in. With online streaming, they force the advertisement. It's embedded, it's there and there isn't a damn thing you can do about it but watch.

You wouldn't be able to. ABC/SoapNet only wants viewers that watch their shows the whole way through. DVR is not what they're interested in. With online streaming, they force the advertisement. It's embedded, it's there and there isn't a damn thing you can do about it but watch.

If that's the case, then I'm back to my pre-2000 bootleg network of friends when I'm preempted! I will save on my cable bill though!

If that's the case, then I'm back to my pre-2000 bootleg network of friends when I'm preempted! I will save on my cable bill though!

Really? Really?

I like the online streams because the number of commercials is very, very small.

As for archiving, it seems to me there has to be some kind of "video card capture"...either in existence, or doable. Isn't there?

It would be nice if SOAPNET can't stream all the old soaps online. They can do it on Youtube with commercials like CBS does for old television series.

CBS shows new shows, including Y&R, on youtube as well. That is how I have been watching Y&R because their player over a CBS is annoying.

The most interesting part of the deal for me is that streaming part. Right now, DOOL, AMC, and OLTL are the only shows NOT legally streamed.

True, but Days was (still is?) on iTunes, and those episodes (while not free) are archived.

True, but Days was (still is?) on iTunes, and those episodes (while not free) are archived.

Surely the few ads they'd run during streaming on SoapNet's site would provide extra revenue for both SoapNet and the show itself though.

Surely the few ads they'd run during streaming on SoapNet's site would provide extra revenue for both SoapNet and the show itself though.

There's an eternal debate about this that Madison Avenue has yet to step forward and answer. The rumor is that when ads are streamed online, the advertisers pay ONE FLAT FEE for their ad to air during a period (sometimes 24 hours, sometimes one week), as many times as it is streamed. And it just costs them one flat payment. So technically, they don't make more money on a show that's watched more online than a show that's watched less. It's the same amount of money.

Of course, nobody seems to be able to step forward and say "These are the rules" because I suspect everyone has different contracts. But yeah - the extra revenue would be one flat fee, as opposed to "This show is streamed online three times more than this other show, so we can charge three times more for ad time" They still haven't figure out that production model, as there is no Nielsen marketing research for streaming video yet.

I'm telling you, these people are so far behind the times in trying to figure out how to make money on the web, it's terrifying.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/conten...8dbd6c30ce6dfdc

ABC, ESPN video hitting YouTube

Move indicates site's desire to become more commercial

By Paul Bond

March 30, 2009, 09:52 PM ET

Disney will put ABC and ESPN video on YouTube under a deal announced Monday that indicates Google's desire to make its popular online video site more commercial.

Financial details of the arrangment were not disclosed, except that Disney Media Networks will be able to sell advertising -- including video pre-rolls -- attached to its content, not unheard of at YouTube but certainly rare.

Google and Disney will split ad revenue generated from the partnership.

Disney will create YouTube "channels" launching next month and the following month for ESPN, ABC Entertainment, ABC News, ABC Family and SOAPnet. It also has the option to create channels for specific TV shows.

Content will be short-form only, each piece running five minutes long or less, and will include behind-the-scenes action from ABC shows, interviews with celebrities, sneak-peaks of upcoming episodes and recaps of episodes already aired. A sample show at Youtube now from ESPN is a four-minute segment about fantasy baseball.

YouTube, which attracts about 100 million unique users monthly, has been struggling to translate a big audience into meaningful revenue, let alone profits. But its willingness to let Disney sell video ads attached to its content could portend a trend.

The deal also signifies that Disney isn't married to the for-pay model it is usually associated with when its premium content goes online.

Disney might in fact be trying to close a deal for putting ad-supported ABC shows on Hulu, the Internet site owned by Fox and NBC Universal.

"We're always interested in scaling our distribution," a Disney insider said.

Edited March 31, 200916 yr by Y&RWorldTurner