They did on AMC and well...they SUCKED!

I have never watched AMC and probably never will. Maybe it was the writing?

I can't think of one person Amelia has chemistry with. Not even her own husband!

Amelia and Thad have bucketloads of chemistry!

Amelia and Don Diamont, on the other hand, were a disaster.

humm.. so cane could be chloes baby daddy.

that means his brother could be the father.

oh, hi Billy Abbott... Chloe's baby daddy? Gee.. i think so.

Isn't that kinda spoiler-ish? However, it's been going through everyone's mind lately.

I have never watched AMC and probably never will. Maybe it was the writing?

Amelia and Thad have bucketloads of chemistry!

Amelia and Don Diamont, on the other hand, were a disaster.

Ugh, in relation to sexual chemistry, the term "bucketloads" just sends my mind in all the wrong places.

I think they are "nice" together in a sweet way. But, no, I don't find them to have chemistry like, say, Adam and Heather or Nick and Phyllis. Even a less impressive couple (like Kevin and Jana or Michael and Lauren...both of which I never personally found that 'chemical') has more chemistry, IMO, than JT and Victoria.

I think for me, the issue is that Luckinbill was once a (good) bad boy (in the sense of snarky a-hole that you wanted to clobber)...and Victoria was once all fire and flame. A tamed Thad and a recast-and-tamed Victoria...honestly...come across much more like Cricket-and-Danny than JT and Victoria. JT and Victoria ought to be the snarly couple that takes no prisoners. THAT would be hot. That would be true (IMO) to their historical characters.

I mean, truly, I thought even CRICKET AND DANNY (during their early married time) had more chemistry than JT and Victoria. I like JT and Victoria a lot -- but for their sweetness, not their chemistry.

humm.. so cane could be chloes baby daddy.

that means

his brother

could be the father.

oh, hi

Billy Abbott

... Chloe's baby daddy? Gee.. i think so.

Ugh. Let me say more after dmarex...

Isn't that kinda spoiler-ish? However, it's been going through everyone's mind lately.

I don't know what is spoilerish...clearly there is a

recast

going on, so let me address this under spoiler protection.

I suppose it could be going there. That somehow Chloe and Billy hooked up (maybe when she went on one of her trips to New York or LA or something, and Billy was there from House of Kim on business. Maybe it was even planned that way. But I hate that idea. First, because it is too convenient. Unless you think Chloe SOUGHT OUT and SEDUCED Billy as part of this plan. If yes, THAT would be diabolical and make her more interesting.

On another note, I am wondering if the corporate scenario could be playing out this way...

- Cane installed as CEO

- Jack (with Ashley and Traci's proxy and Gloria and Brad's support) manages to take over control of Jabot

- Jack can't run Jabot, he wants a paper tiger to do his bidding, and Ashley is out of town. So, Jack installs Billy as CEO. [Alternatively, he might hold his nose and install Brad...but plant Billy there to be his eyes and ears].

- regardless, it sets the scene for Billy and Cane to be rivals at Jabot. It also puts Jill in a totally untenable position (yay!!), because how can she support one son over the other? Billy, by virtue of his training and history, would CLEARLY be more appropriate to run Jabot than Cane.

- if, then, Billy recognizes Chloe as "the hot chick who pursued him" out of town...she'll want to make sure he keeps that on the downlow. On the other hand, if Billy realizes that Chloe's pregnancy distracts Cane...Billy might be willing to keep everything secret it if helps him mind-screw Cane.

- Cane and Abel--er--Billy, with Cane as the good brother, could be intriguing.

- The only sad thing for me is that Cane has had to be instantly dumbed down to make this story work...and that diminishes him. Cane was always smart and self aware (except when Amber tricked him)...so I hate to see him as dummy.

I haven't seen Y&R for about a week now, but J. Eddie Peck doesn't need to return. He was a horrendous actor that was stiff as wood. It would be pure poison to have him and Amelia sharing scenes together.

I couldn't agree more. One of the worst actors ever to hit GC. He only lasted that long because you can't really fail if Heather Tom is carrying you over the threshold each day.

As soon as Cole was evicted from Vickie's orbit his inabilities for anything were just too painful to watch. E.g. Cole & Sharri Shattuck's Ashley were probably as addictive and interesting to watch like Amelia Heinle & Thad Luckinbill.

Thinking of it: BlandToria, BoreMeToTears and Cole would be probably be so boring the universe would stop turning. It could actually be worth an experiment. LOL!

Edited August 15, 200817 yr by sheilaforever

Victoria and J.T. are just soooooooooooooooooooooooo boring. There is nothing special about them.

I couldn't agree more. One of the worst actors ever to hit GC. He only lasted that long because you can't really fail if Heather Tom is carrying you over the threshold each day.

As soon as Cole was evicted from Vickie's orbit his inabilities for anything were just too painful to watch. E.g. Cole & Sharri Shattuck's Ashley were probably as addictive and interesting to watch like Amelia Heinle & Thad Luckinbill.

Thinking of it: BlandToria, BoreMeToTears and Cole would be probably be so boring the universe would stop turning. It could actually be worth an experiment. LOL!

Wow, I totally forgot about Cole and Ashley. I honestly thought Cole just left the show after his marriage with Victoria ended. That's how interesting THAT romance was to me. LOL!

I don't know what is spoilerish...clearly there is a

recast

going on, so let me address this under spoiler protection.

I suppose it could be going there. That somehow Chloe and Billy hooked up (maybe when she went on one of her trips to New York or LA or something, and Billy was there from House of Kim on business. Maybe it was even planned that way. But I hate that idea. First, because it is too convenient. Unless you think Chloe SOUGHT OUT and SEDUCED Billy as part of this plan. If yes, THAT would be diabolical and make her more interesting.

On another note, I am wondering if the corporate scenario could be playing out this way...

- Cane installed as CEO

- Jack (with Ashley and Traci's proxy and Gloria and Brad's support) manages to take over control of Jabot

- Jack can't run Jabot, he wants a paper tiger to do his bidding, and Ashley is out of town. So, Jack installs Billy as CEO. [Alternatively, he might hold his nose and install Brad...but plant Billy there to be his eyes and ears].

- regardless, it sets the scene for Billy and Cane to be rivals at Jabot. It also puts Jill in a totally untenable position (yay!!), because how can she support one son over the other? Billy, by virtue of his training and history, would CLEARLY be more appropriate to run Jabot than Cane.

- if, then, Billy recognizes Chloe as "the hot chick who pursued him" out of town...she'll want to make sure he keeps that on the downlow. On the other hand, if Billy realizes that Chloe's pregnancy distracts Cane...Billy might be willing to keep everything secret it if helps him mind-screw Cane.

- Cane and Abel--er--Billy, with Cane as the good brother, could be intriguing.

- The only sad thing for me is that Cane has had to be instantly dumbed down to make this story work...and that diminishes him. Cane was always smart and self aware (except when Amber tricked him)...so I hate to see him as dummy.

Okay.. i am not going to discuss this in spoilers tags because... its not a spoiler. its a thought. my mother even asked me if thats the way its going to play out because IMHO its obvious.

This is how i THINK it went down.

Chloe met a boy. Chloe sexed up said boy. Chloe thought this would be perfect to trap cane. Chloe set everything up and had the perfect plan - until the DNA test. Did we see her read the results? because if we did i missed it. They should show it.. and if they did.. they shoulda showen her kinda shocked by it syaing Cane could be the father.

Then suring this prego story they should bring Billy back to town. have Chloe see him and avoid him not wanting him to put two and two together that thats his baby. And not let Chloe know that Billy also comes from money.

but thats just how i would do it. because why would Chloe go after Canes money when she could go after Billy's if she knew he was an Aboott

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also, i need to point that how awesome it was to have Traci's daughter and Danny's son singing together.

As soon as Cole was evicted from Vickie's orbit his inabilities for anything were just too painful to watch. E.g. Cole & Sharri Shattuck's Ashley were probably as addictive and interesting to watch like Amelia Heinle & Thad Luckinbill.

True, lol. But, in JEP's defense, it wasn't as if he had a terrific scene-partner in Shattuck. Frankly, I think the only reason she got that role was because she was married to Ronn Moss (Ridge, B& at the time. If anyone here enjoyed her as Ashley, I apologize for offending you, but me? To me, she was so awful, she actually made me miss that Epperson chick who was Eileen Davidson's initial successor in the role.

also, i need to point that how awesome it was to have Traci's daughter and Danny's son singing together.

Great point! They should have reminded us of that in the show!

Chloe met a boy. Chloe sexed up said boy. Chloe thought this would be perfect to trap cane. Chloe set everything up and had the perfect plan - until the DNA test. Did we see her read the results? because if we did i missed it. They should show it.. and if they did.. they shoulda showen her kinda shocked by it syaing Cane could be the father.

Then suring this prego story they should bring Billy back to town. have Chloe see him and avoid him not wanting him to put two and two together that thats his baby. And not let Chloe know that Billy also comes from money.

Good scenario, Jack. However, in order for that to work, Billy has to be using an assumed name (and I'm not saying he isn't, only that, for me, that's how this has to work). Otherwise, IMO, Chloe will look mighty stupid for not putting together that Billy Abbott shares the same last name as Jill Abbott and the rest of the Abbott family. (Plus, there's the fact that Chloe basically threw him over for Cane, when really, marriage to and family with Billy could provide a jackpot of its own...unless, of course, Chloe's going after Cane strictly b/c she hates Lily...which is possible.)

Agreed on Heinle and Luckinbill are boring. Any couple who's boring won't have chemistry LOL.

See: Neil/Karen

See: Neil/Carmen

See: Lily/Cane

See: recast Colleen/Adrian

See: diluted JT/ recast Mac- Kimsey

See: Crickett/Paul

See: Raul/Mac

See: Antonia/Jessica (OLTL)

See: Ridge/Taylor (B&

See: Nina/Cole

I always wondered why Olivia and Neil were never put together in a long-term thing but now I realize that's because the writers were smart enough to know that they're both incredibly boring. If Tonya Williams came back for a longer stint last year, considering how craptastic the staff was, they probably would be together.

MarkH, I completely agree with your post. In a word, genius! And

that would be fantasmagorical if Chloe had an agenda the entire time to get sperminated by Billy by "happenstance" and return to Genoa City to get her man-man, Cane. I mean, she'd still get all the Abbott dough and Cane. My Lord, I'd love her character almost as much as I loved Phyllis and Sheila. Too bad Lily's no Lauren or even a Sharon.

I don't know about a Cane vs. Billy thing, though, because it'll be too similar to what's going on with the Newman bros. They may play out differently, but it'd still seem like the writers were lazy. So, I just hope they realize that Cane is an impostor who wanted to become CEO of Jabot this whole time (a la Jared on OLTL, but a lot less icky and a lot more devious).

unless, of course, Chloe's going after Cane strictly b/c she hates Lily...which is possible.)

I think it's possible. It's all about Lily in the end.

ETA: Then again, I hope I'm completely wrong in all these guesses and the writers have something else entirely up their sleeves... well, something GOOD LOL.

Edited August 15, 200817 yr by rhythmchyc

Neil/Olivia had chemistry.

So did Cole/Nina & Raul/Mac.

MarkH, I completely agree with your post. In a word, genius! And

that would be fantasmagorical if Chloe had an agenda the entire time to get sperminated by Billy by "happenstance" and return to Genoa City to get her man-man, Cane. I mean, she'd still get all the Abbott dough and Cane. My Lord, I'd love her character almost as much as I loved Phyllis and Sheila. Too bad Lily's no Lauren or even a Sharon.

Now, that scenario intrigues me, lol.

I'm mad, though, that the DNA test results rule out Adam as a possibility. They had Adam and Chloe cross paths twice (that I know of), and both times, neither acknowledged the other. I mean, wouldn't it be ironic if they actually did know each other (but, b/c it was just a booty call, so to speak, they didn't exchange telling glances or anything)? Imagine how that would shake up the Adam/Heather romance, among other things?