On a TAN historical note, Ellen Holly (Carla Gray) claimed she used to write and work on a number of scripts for OLTL in the late '60s and early '70s. Allegedly, some of the surviving footage from her early storyline that was sent out to affiliates, in which Carla confronts her mother Sadie about being neglected while Sadie cared for white people's children, was written by Holly herself. This apparently stopped only because Doris Quinlan, the EP, explained that they had no apparatus with which to pay her as both a writer and a cast member.

Here is a interesting post over on "The Envelope" where Nelson posts also.

Cindi Posted July 28, 2008 11:30 AM Hide Post

I don't think it's Josh Griffith who's re-writing Maria Bell's stuff. I think it's Eric Braeden. There were already rumors about that.

I'd also like to know where this is coming from. If it's the Corday/Higley camp trying to discredit a long time EP, who's never been accused of anything like this, I say shanangans. Hackley almost distroyed OLTL, she wasn't even professional enough to watch OLTL before or after the got the headwriter job. On Days she got rid of Belle & Shawn, had Sami sleep with her rapist, and lied about scabbing.

I don't believe them.

ETA - I spoke to a WGA friend this morning and this was his take on it:

He thought it sounded more like Higley was trying to diffuse the WGA investagation into her scabbing by using bullsh!t disinformation to take the heat off herself. I guess if it works for Carl Rove and Bush. Also, if she can do an end-run and discredit Scott, then his testimony regarding her to the WGA won't have the same merit. He thought it was a very calculated and desperate move by Higley.

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These are REALLY interesting points, and ones that shouldn't be ignored. There's a lot going on here. WAY more than Nelson can fit in his paragraph, and a lot that we'll probably never know. It's just all dirty dealings, no matter how you cut it.

I am inclined to believe Cindi's suspicion. We already know what Higley was capable of during the strike. Why wouldn't she do this?

Hmmmm......

On a TAN historical note, Ellen Holly (Carla Gray) claimed she used to write and work on a number of scripts for OLTL in the late '60s and early '70s. Allegedly, some of the surviving footage from her early storyline that was sent out to affiliates, in which Carla confronts her mother Sadie about being neglected while Sadie cared for white people's children, was written by Holly herself. This apparently stopped only because Doris Quinlan, the EP, explained that they had no apparatus with which to pay her as both a writer and a cast member.

And Victoria Rowell claims she made major changes...even pitched the Lily-as-model story...so is that actionable. I want to parse a few of NB's phrases from over at DR:

A source close to Higley DOES NOT mean a friend of Higley's necessarily. Also, what part of photographic proof and WGA don't you get, LOL!

Looks like the WGA officially steps in tomorrow.

the scripts with Ed's — and the top star's — changes! Someone turned them in!

Yes, because actors writing STORYLINES, not dialogue, is a HUGE INFRACTION against Guild LAWS. Also, clearly no one on this soap will be allowed to write their own soap as head writer because producers are always interfering. I fear NBC will use this to cancel the show. It can't even afford craft services, let alone fines! This kind of meddling is what is destroying the show and the business! Ed has really improved Days on many production levels, but now if he goes, the soap suffers thanks to his stupidity! Also, the irony involved regarding the possibility that Dena (like Todd Manning getting out of jail for rape because he saved Sarah Roberts) may get a free pass from the Guild is crazy!

Who said it was one script? Now you guys are making things up. They have scripts, breakdowns, everything including emails!

Okay, so, now, I'm wondering about the categories of evidence.

If the alterations are on the SCRIPTS, that may just mean routine (if heavy) alterations of dialog. That does not seem unusual. It would also seem difficult to change STORYLINES based on script edits...no matter how major.

Now, if the changes are on breakdowns, and there are emails to suggest even more major story changes...well...we have more evidence.

But then the bloody dagger question arises; Someone either STOLE/HACKED INTO emails (in which case I wonder about the admissibility of any evidence procured), or a trusted party who was privy to the emails betrayed confidence.

That set sounds like a sick sick sick clusterf*ck, and that can ONLY be blamed on a sick sick leader. Someone at the top abdicated control. We all know who that is....not the EP or the HW.

A source close to Higley DOES NOT mean a friend of Higley's necessarily. Also, what part of photographic proof and WGA don't you get, LOL!

Looks like the WGA officially steps in tomorrow.

the scripts with Ed's — and the top star's — changes! Someone turned them in!

Yes, because actors writing STORYLINES, not dialogue, is a HUGE INFRACTION against Guild LAWS. Also, clearly no one on this soap will be allowed to write their own soap as head writer because producers are always interfering. I fear NBC will use this to cancel the show. It can't even afford craft services, let alone fines! This kind of meddling is what is destroying the show and the business! Ed has really improved Days on many production levels, but now if he goes, the soap suffers thanks to his stupidity! Also, the irony involved regarding the possibility that Dena (like Todd Manning getting out of jail for rape because he saved Sarah Roberts) may get a free pass from the Guild is crazy!

Who said it was one script? Now you guys are making things up. They have scripts, breakdowns, everything including emails!

But what storylines is the "Diva" writing. Is there really any storylines going on Days? It's all talk and no action. Whoever is writing Days isnt doing a good job. Look at the last weeks ratings....a 2.3 in Total Viewers. Is that a new low for them Toups??

That set sounds like a sick sick sick clusterf*ck, and that can ONLY be blamed on a sick sick leader. Someone at the top abdicated control. We all know who that is....not the EP or the HW.

And THAT'S really the issue here.

We can go round and round and round over what the actress changed, or who she is, or what Dena wrote or what Ed wrote, or whatever... but the bottom line is that NONE of this would be happening if the man at the top was DOING HIS FREAKIN' JOB and LIVING UP TO THE LEGACY HIS PARENTS LEFT HIM.

The inmates were running the asylum, and really - can you blame them? Say what you will about Frons or Phelps or Goutman, but they wouldn't put up with two seconds of this horsesh!t.

^But he was on vacation.

^But he was on vacation.

I wish I had his job....

And THAT'S really the issue here.

We can go round and round and round over what the actress changed, or who she is, or what Dena wrote or what Ed wrote, or whatever... but the bottom line is that NONE of this would be happening if the man at the top was DOING HIS FREAKIN' JOB and LIVING UP TO THE LEGACY HIS PARENTS LEFT HIM.

The inmates were running the asylum, and really - can you blame them? Say what you will about Frons or Phelps or Goutman, but they wouldn't put up with two seconds of this horsesh!t.

IA, but there is just one point I have to make.

These people, all of them, are grown. Nobody held a gun to their heads making them do any of this [!@#$%^&*]. They ALL are to blame for it, but the [!@#$%^&*] in charge (Corday) holds the most blame.

Maybe it's time he shits or gets off the damn pot. I'm really tired that he has taken his parents' life's work and is flushing it down the toilet because he acts like he doesn't know what he's doing.

He confirmed the the 7th post in the thread (Nelson's post is post #8 in that thread).

"I definitely owe Bloom an apology on that one!" = him agreeing with the post who things Josh is re-writing Maria?

That doesn't make any sense because why would Josh rewrite Maria's stories when Maria is a BELL - her family co-owns the show. Why in the world would Josh want to mess with that? All Maria has to do is go to her HUSBAND. LOL

To quote Rachel from Road Rules (during one of the challeges)

This game is ugly. The inner circle is UGLY.

"I definitely owe Bloom an apology on that one!" = him agreeing with the post who things Josh is re-writing Maria?

Yeah, and face it, the other West Caost soap isn't B&B or GH, those are tightly run ships with Bradley and Guza. Y&R has been vulnerable for a good while now.

That doesn't make any sense because why would Josh rewrite Maria's stories when Maria is a BELL - her family co-owns the show. Why in the world would Josh want to mess with that? All Maria has to do is go to her HUSBAND. LOL

I hear things are NOT exactly friendly between Josh and Maria and have been that way since the strike ended.

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To quote Rachel from Road Rules (during one of the challeges)

This game is ugly. The inner circle is UGLY.

I remember that! I loved those challenges too bad they aren't as good as they used to be.

I hear things are NOT exactly friendly between Josh and Maria and have been that way since the strike ended.

I can't see him crossing the owners of the show. That's suicide. LOL

This isn't like Ed/Dena. Dena doesn't own DAYS.