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Loving/The City Discussion Thread

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Whoops, looks like those last uploads are from May 1986.

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Thanks so much @Franko for finding the episodes and also for your dating the episodes, which is so important.

I always appreciate seeing more of '80s Loving, even as the stories are rarely that good. It's the little details per episode which interest me. For instance, this:

No recap can fully tell viewers just what a dissolute and disorienting place Gwyn was in at this time as much as these images of Gwyn in her best late '80s Aphrodite Island jewelry, arguing with her lover/her daughter's lover in front of a sex tape of the two of them about when her daughter will find out that she had also slept with her daughter's other boyfriend.

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4 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Thanks so much @Franko for finding the episodes and also for your dating the episodes, which is so important.

I always appreciate seeing more of '80s Loving, even as the stories are rarely that good. It's the little details per episode which interest me. For instance, this:

No recap can fully tell viewers just what a dissolute and disorienting place Gwyn was in at this time as much as these images of Gwyn in her best late '80s Aphrodite Island jewelry, arguing with her lover/her daughter's lover in front of a sex tape of the two of them about when her daughter will find out that she had also slept with her daughter's other boyfriend.

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Jeff standing there in his boxers and an open shirt really adds to the whole crazy scene.

I'm delighted that such a large chunk of episodes have turned up.

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1 minute ago, Franko said:

Jeff standing there in his boxers and an open shirt really adds to the whole crazy scene.

I'm delighted that such a large chunk of episodes have turned up.

And I am delighted and somewhat aroused by your choice of words.

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1 hour ago, DRW50 said:

Thanks so much @Franko for finding the episodes and also for your dating the episodes, which is so important.

I always appreciate seeing more of '80s Loving, even as the stories are rarely that good. It's the little details per episode which interest me. For instance, this:

No recap can fully tell viewers just what a dissolute and disorienting place Gwyn was in at this time as much as these images of Gwyn in her best late '80s Aphrodite Island jewelry, arguing with her lover/her daughter's lover in front of a sex tape of the two of them about when her daughter will find out that she had also slept with her daughter's other boyfriend.

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Watching 80s Gwyn, I don't think it's a large stretch she'd crash out and go on a killing spree. 90s Gwyn was sweet and matronly though! Trisha dying, then turning up alive, and not wanting anything to do with the family triggered her. I still love her.

These episodes are a lot of fun so far. It's great to see 1989 as 1988-1991 seem to be hard to find. The characters were stacked. We had the Aldens, Ava, Kate, Harry, Trucker, Egypt, Alex, not to mention Jack, Stacey, and Rick. I agree the stories aren't amazing, but the scenes are good and it's definitely not boring.

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Thanks for posting @Franko

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On 5/5/2026 at 9:21 PM, Franko said:

More vintage uploads have turned up, both from March-April 1989 and May 1986. I'll see if I can't pinpoint the dates.

@Sapounopera You may be interested in the 1986 episodes.

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Does anyone have the June 1995 episodes? Specifically, the 29th and 30th.

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I would be shocked if someone didn't vault the Loving Murders somewhere after last time. All of it was up complete in 2020, which is when I rewatched it for the first time since '95.

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20 hours ago, DRW50 said:

@Sapounopera You may be interested in the 1986 episodes.

Thank you so much. I loved Roya's Ava with Linden Ashby's Curtis.

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They put up a few others too but those are from 1993 so may already be available.

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Do any Loving historians know why they kept recasting Isabelle Alden? It's amusing because the character gets a new personality with each new face. She's either matronly or a snobby schemer.

I managed to track down some Loving/The City footage.

As an adult, the Trisha/Trucker story is such a convoluted mess. I'm not sure why I'm supposed to be rooting for Trucker settling for Dinah Lee while Trisha does the same with her stalker. And it seems like a lot of men were obsessed with Trish. Giff just kidnapped her, and now poor Casey has PTSD.

Speaking of Casey, he was the most human of the young adult set. I loved them all but they all seemed to switch partners at ease. Casey was stubbornly insecure, jealous, sensitive and loved Ally with all of his heart. It doesn't make sense to me that Cooper just goes along with Tyler/Ally struggling because Casey's ego might get hurt or that he wouldn't get security for them during the drug crisis.

I loved Steffi and Cooper's relationship. I hated that Cooper cheated while in Paris, but it was in character, and they did a quick reunion on The City. The show did what they needed to in a handful of episodes. The writers should've written them out when Michael Weatherly left Loving in the spring of 1995.

Ally really goes through a transformation after Casey's death, more gritty and less doe-eyed. Laura Wright and TW King had explosive chemistry but Danny and Ally hooking up on The City was a choice. Ally and Tony were alright, I guess.

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