Santa Barbara Discussion Thread

[DRW50]

What were the brain implant and miscarriage stories about? Were they any good? Was that Cruz's baby?

I should look online for Elena.

[juniorz1]

It was Kirk Cranston's baby so we were grateful, sad as that may be. But the last thing Eden needed was a baby tying her to that nutjob forever.

There aren't a whole lot of Elena clips (you're likelier to find clips of the trial for her murder) but you should look up those clips. Sherilyn Wolter should have stayed on SB for years to come, as she was Eden's most formidable rival. Man she was a bitch. You should see some of the horrible things she said to Eden while she was confined to a wheelchair, which is why it was disappointing that by the time Eden could walk, Elena was dead.

[DRW50]

Thanks. I never do find a good jumping on point with SB. They keep adding some of the fairly early episodes, but I always seem to have something else to watch. I did watch some of the Mason/Mary stuff.

[Paul Raven]

Edited October 28, 2011 by Paul Raven

[juniorz1]

Carl- there's a set of clips up where Mason tries to pull a fast one on Eden while she's in Hawaii. Watch those clips. They are super entertaining.

Also, capwellgirl has a set of clips entitled "The Family Plan." It's the sequence where CC fakes his death so the family can have a memorial service and sneak Kelly into the house. You MUST watch those. Hilarious stuff and it comes from my favorite SB storyline of all-time- Gina and the Tape.

Edited October 29, 2011 by juniorz1

[sungrey]

The scene where Keith pricks CC with a pin is one of my all-time favorites. That's how suspenseful and comedic SB could be at the same time.

[DRW50]

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[juniorz1]

sungrey- Keith, Gina, and the whole lot of Capwells are HILARIOUS in those scenes!

[DRW50]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRFJ6mvLXPo

[DRW50]

What was this story about? It seems very heavy and full of psychological damage.

Marcy Walker gives a real lesson in this clip about how to play a heroine without being weak or sappy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caISDPJuPfI

[juniorz1]

It was a GREAT storyline. Tori was Cruz's ex-girlfriend who had just returned to town with boyfriend Martin Ellis, having become a Hollywood actress. Years ago, Cruz's then-girlfriend, Katie Timmons (Keith's sister), was jealous of Cruz & Tori and ran into the ocean too deep. Katie was struggling out there but Tori claimed she was a strong swimmer and would be fine. After Cruz went for help, Tori looked on as Katie began to drown. Tori did nothing to help her and just let her drown out there. By the time Cruz came back, Katie had drowned. Cruz helped Tori cover up the fact that Tori had witnessed the whole thing and did nothing to help Katie. Years later, Keith blamed Cruz for Katie's death, when really, it was Tori's fault- Cruz had just helped her keep it quiet over the years.

When Tori came back, Eden figured out there was a secret she & Cruz were sharing and Cruz came clean with her. Eden even understood Keith's anger at first and sort of took his side, as he had lost his sister because of this. But Keith had held the grudge against Cruz all these years and was tormenting him, so Eden was trying to get Tori to come clean with Keith and tell him the truth about what had happened. Tori was frightened of what Keith would do to her, even possibly press charges, so she wanted to wait before revealing it so she could figure out exactly what she was gonna say. Cruz understood this, as he knew Keith and how intimidating he could be and how Tori might react around him, whereas Eden didn't. At this point, Eden runs out into the ocean to feign drowning to test Tori, just to see if Tori would come out and help her like she didn't do for Katie. It works (sort of ) and Tori runs out and saves her, swimming her to shore (Eden really does end up starting to drown). When Eden comes to, she sees Cruz comforting Tori, as the whole thing has reminded her of the incident with Katie and is jealous. There are some powerful scenes on youtube of Eden in the hospital telling Cruz what she saw when she came to. Marcy Walker is AMAZING in those clips.

Anyhow, that's the jist of the storyline and it was also the basis of the Cruz/Keith rivalry and Keith's hatred for Cruz and why he always went after Cruz over the years.

Thanks SO MUCH for posting this clip, as I've only seen it in French on youtube. SO nice to finally see it in English!!!

Edited November 20, 2011 by juniorz1

[juniorz1]

I found the scene I was talking about- watch this Carl. Marcy is CHILLING in it!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at42sbV5N_8

[DRW50]

That's an incredible scene. The music is superb, and Marcy is at her best. She is such a direct, forceful actress, but always with the vulnerability within reach. So many layers. I can remember now why, even though I rarely watched SB at the time it was on, I had strong memories of Eden.

I was reading yesterday that when SB started, Lynn Herring auditioned to play Kelly. How do you think she would have been?

[Khan]

Well, you can't blame SANTA BARBARA for not trying, lol. As Paula Abdul would say, they worked their asses off to grab the audience's attention.

[DRW50]

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