I have to say, after watching GL the last two weeks I am appalled at the new production model. It is now evident that this model is not about being progressive, rather, it is about cutting costs.

I found the first scenes from 'The City' and I find it shocking that GL wasn't inspired to, at the very least, mimic the camera work employed on this short lived soap. Granted, the production values of 'The City' must have been sky high, but it looked gorgeous whereas GL is starting to look like a cheap adult video.

I give you, 'The City'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNVV2-TnyeU#O6hPd5TmvNg

I agree completely, The City looked gorgeous visually, and the camera work wasn't so shaky that I felt like I wanted to throw up. The City look great and real, where as GL just looks like a cheap porno.

The City wasn't shot with unrefined digital cameras, though. Of course GL went for a cost cutting measure. Hardly anything Ellen Wheeler said about the new techniques implied that her show would look better, let alone improve its stories. All she did was pare down the crew and build enough sets to give writers more options.

The City wasn't shot with unrefined digital cameras, though. Of course GL went for a cost cutting measure. Hardly anything Ellen Wheeler said about the new techniques implied that her show would look better, let alone improve its stories. All she did was pare down the crew and build enough sets to give writers more options.

Can you explain this to me? Every Sunday football game is shot with handheld digital cameras--in a fast moving sport--with real-time editing.

But it is broadcast in full beautiful HD.

Also, I can go to Best Buy right now and buy an HD digital camera (although I can't vouch for how good it looks...never tried it).

Couldn't GL have gone to this production model but still upped the quality of its' picture? Wide screen and high resolution? Or would this have cost too much?

I'm seriously asking someone here who might have some expertise in these areas....

Can you explain this to me? Every Sunday football game is shot with handheld digital cameras--in a fast moving sport--with real-time editing.

But it is broadcast in full beautiful HD.

Also, I can go to Best Buy right now and buy an HD digital camera (although I can't vouch for how good it looks...never tried it).

Couldn't GL have gone to this production model but still upped the quality of its' picture? Wide screen and high resolution? Or would this have cost too much?

I'm seriously asking someone here who might have some expertise in these areas....

Hey Mark,

I'm not sure what Sunday games you are referring to, but regardless of what type of cameras they employ, they are mounted on high-dollar pedastals and operated by seasoned operators. Handheld sideline cameras are actually shoulder-mounted, similar to what a news shooter would use. The cameras GL is using are cheap junk by comparison.

The proper way to shoot handheld for broadcast is with a steadycam... and they aren't so expensive for a show with GL's budget that they couldn't have been purchased. Much like AMC a few years ago, somebody thought "the shakes" was somehow equivalent to reality. The effect we've seen used more effectively in primetime is much more controlled than people think... and GL just can't pull it off with the equipment they are using. And I'm totally confused at what looks to me to be a complete failure in presentation. I work regularly with a Sony HD camera, shooting out in the field a variety of events and subjects, even some in-studio under controlled lighting, but the majority of stuff where I am at the mercy of the elements, and everything I have shot has turned out awesome.

Let's not even talk about the lighting. Ugh! Nothing will EVER look better for daytime than proper 3-point studio lightning.

I've posted this elsewhere, and I'll post it now... I firmly believe this to be the final nail in GL's coffin. I'm wondering who will go first... Ellen or the show, itself.

Edited March 16, 200817 yr by wostwebmaster

Ever since news broke of the changes, it was always apparent that these were cost cutting measures - at least they were for me. Ellen Wheeler can babble on all she wants about realism and getting closer into the characters lives, but she fooling very few people.

Edited March 16, 200817 yr by AddictedToSoaps

Hey Mark,

I'm not sure what Sunday games you are referring to, but regardless of what type of cameras they employ, they are mounted on high-dollar pedastals and operated by seasoned operators. Handheld sideline cameras are actually shoulder-mounted, similar to what a news shooter would use. The cameras GL is using are cheap junk by comparison.

The proper way to shoot handheld for broadcast is with a steadycam... and they aren't so expensive for a show with GL's budget that they couldn't have been purchased. Much like AMC a few years ago, somebody thought "the shakes" was somehow equivalent to reality. The effect we've seen used more effectively in primetime is much more controlled than people think... and GL just can't pull it off with the equipment they are using. And I'm totally confused at what looks to me to be a complete failure in presentation. I work regularly with a Sony HD camera, shooting out in the field a variety of events and subjects, even some in-studio under controlled lighting, but the majority of stuff where I am at the mercy of the elements, and everything I have shot has turned out awesome.

Let's not even talk about the lighting. Ugh! Nothing will EVER look better for daytime than proper 3-point studio lightning.

I've posted this elsewhere, and I'll post it now... I firmly believe this to be the final nail in GL's coffin. I'm wondering who will go first... Ellen or the show, itself.

Thank you! Inscrutable production decisions. The show, sadly, looks cheap.... They need some consultation to improve the quality...or it will drive more folks away. The aging actors, in particular, are shown in the most unflattering light. But I know what matters to you is storytelling...and this jagged ADHD style hurts the storytelling too.

Thank you! Inscrutable production decisions. The show, sadly, looks cheap.... They need some consultation to improve the quality...or it will drive more folks away. The aging actors, in particular, are shown in the most unflattering light. But I know what matters to you is storytelling...and this jagged ADHD style hurts the storytelling too.

I've kind of noticed that too with certain actors and not just the ones that I would expect to show signs of aging but the ones that I don't expect.

I've kind of noticed that too with certain actors and not just the ones that I would expect to show signs of aging but the ones that I don't expect.

Robert Newman and Crystall Chappel rock it. thats all that matters for me, lol. as they are the only reason i try and watch this.

Saw this over at the official Proctor & Gamble message board...

We just spoke with Beth last night regarding her new exercise DVD. She is soooooo excited about it and can't wait for people to hear all about this fantastic new fitness regime using kettlebells and combining weight training with cardio twice a week for 40 minutes. The March 31 issue of CBS Soaps-In-Depth will have a big feature with Beth and her new DVD. Also, we will be providng more information and links on www.bethchamberlin.net and bethchamberlinunplugged (Beth's offical message board) as well as via email to our fan club members.

As you know, Beth was honored with a Daytime Emmy Pre-Nomination. She submitted two epsiodes, both of which were with Marcy Rylan! The first was with 'Lizzie' in the Spaudling dining room after Lizzie thought that Sara was dead. The second was after Tammy died. 'Beth' and 'Lizzie' go to the church, and 'Beth' tells Lizzie to not give up, to believe and not to be selfish.

Finally, Beth wants to know how everyone feels about the new filming format. She urges all fans to please write, post, email comments to GL Beth tells us that tptb are extremely interested in fan feedback with this revolutionary new way of delivering Guiding Light so that they can fix whatever isn't working and continue with what is working well!!!!

Laura & Diane

I do think that P&G/TPTB want to try and find a way to make this work. And yes it was done to save money, but i do think it was also to try and help daytime and find a new way, a cheaper way, of filming. the worst part is the shake's, if they cut that out and stopped zooming in & out on nose hair and stopped shooting from between branch's i think it would look great.

How many final nails does Gl's coffin have in it?

^^^I'm sure whatever the minimum number needed to keep the lid (and production costs) down.

I don't see why GL needs "time" to figure this stuff out...they'd been shooting outdoor scenes for months already with the new equipment. Why they suddenly needed to "artsy" it up and shoot from between branches, etc. is beyond me.

I'm not as impressed with the new sets. Some are okay (the Spaulding study..). Most of them feel like 8x8 cells. I couldn't care less if Lizzie's room now has a closet...it's unbelievable that the Spaulding mansion has a claustrophic feel to it.

I do think they were too ambitious with the amount of sets and should knock some down so bedroom sets could be larger. Whatever Gus and Natalia were in was way, way too small, as was Jonathan's motel room. It would be nice to keep one around so you could have a realistically poor character, but Jonathan and Gus shouldn't be sleeping in a fricking box.

Overall the look is improving and has gotten me to watch GL again, despite the bad writing. It was unbearable to watch previously with the poor set design. This has it's problems, but is a million times better than what we were getting. I hope they burned that Main Street set. I also must say that I never realized what a fierce bitch Crystal Chappell was. TVGC was right when they called her the sexiest woman in daytime. She doesn't even have to try!

What is that thing Gus and Nat have sex in? Is it a room? It looks like a forgotten storage room at the Beacon. Gross.