Members UCLAN Posted October 9, 2008 Members Share Posted October 9, 2008 This is absolutely correct. Most blacks vote democrat because they feel that they address their needs. However, many blacks are conservative in moral and social areas (church going) Here in CA many are hoping that they will help pass prop 8 because of that way of thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Greg's GL Posted October 9, 2008 Members Share Posted October 9, 2008 Jon Stewart is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Steve Posted October 9, 2008 Members Share Posted October 9, 2008 I think it was meant to be disrespectful. It seems to me that McCain has gotten used to the crowd reaction at his rallies and he was trying to invoke a similar response during the debate. ITA that Jon Stewart is awesome! Has anyone else seen this? http://www.veteranreportcard.org/ It's a nonpartisan veterans group that gave grades to each member of Congress based on their voting records for veterans last year. Obama & Biden each got a B, McCain got a D! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roman Posted October 9, 2008 Members Share Posted October 9, 2008 The same John McCain who said he supported the troops more than Obama? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wales2004 Posted October 9, 2008 Members Share Posted October 9, 2008 Apparently not enough to show up for more votes on their issues. On one, he gave the excuse of wanting it to include transferrability.....but it was already included....so much for that. Today's best line for me comes from Bill Burton (Obama) who called the media coverage a cross between a McCain infomercial and an episode of the X-Files. I have to agree. It's like turning on the news and finding myself in another dimension.....and with Palin saying that Barack Obama would diminish "the prestige of the United States presidency," the venom continues to flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wales2004 Posted October 9, 2008 Members Share Posted October 9, 2008 I don't know how to embed videos so here's a link to a youtube video on Huffington of some McCain Palin supporters articulating the problem they have with Barack Obama: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/09/m...d_n_133240.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Greg's GL Posted October 9, 2008 Members Share Posted October 9, 2008 Wales, do you have a link to when she said this? This is just incredible. I wonder, how exactly he would "diminish the prestige" of the office, according to her. The assumption can be made that McCain would feel the same way, since she's on the same ticket. It appears there is no limit to what they will say or do to tear down Obama. That video was just.....wow. It's a truly sad thing to watch when people are oblivious to the facts IRT Obama. The statement that "he's a terrorist" is a horrible thing to say, but then to have no evidence or proof or to even know why you feel that way....wow. The videographer had a good point with his "When did you first hear of Obama? When did you first hear of Palin?" The blonde video hog is obviously lying her ass off. And it's funny that the people attending the event weren't really....diverse. Were they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ReddFoxx Posted October 9, 2008 Members Share Posted October 9, 2008 The level of political discourse is getting even lower, now a McCain surrogate is accusing Obama of cheating. http://www.journalgazette.net/apps/pbcs.dl...0281/1002/LOCAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wales2004 Posted October 9, 2008 Members Share Posted October 9, 2008 I read it on Huffington. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/09/p...i_n_133331.html I should probably resist the urge to read any more of what McCain's people are saying because it seems to just get more and more ridiculous. Now his co-chair Frank Keating is saying Obama is a "guy of the street" that should admit his drug use. I don't know how Frank Keating found about it but other people learned about it from Obama's book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Greg's GL Posted October 9, 2008 Members Share Posted October 9, 2008 Is it me, or are these two developments disturbing? Republicans accusing Democrats of "cheating" in IN and NC even BEFORE Nov 4th? They are either very worried about their candidate's prospects or they simply have no shame. JMHO. Secondly, the issue of the drug use is a new pathetic attempt to smear. It's nothing new. They are grasping at straws. Regardless, seeing how low things have gotten makes me very Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bandbfan Posted October 10, 2008 Members Share Posted October 10, 2008 Considering that Republicans were accused of calling people in 2000/4 (whichever) and telling them they weren't eligible to vote (when they were)...I'd be careful about throwing stones in a glass house. While the ACORN thing isn't good by any means, I don't think anyone can call Obama himself a cheater, or act like Republicans are saints in that department. Again, though, doesn't make the situation okay at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tishy Posted October 10, 2008 Members Share Posted October 10, 2008 Tell me this isn't scary. I am posting the first part of the article and providing the link to the rest. Source: Salon.com Oct. 10, 2008 PALMER, Alaska — | On the afternoon of Sept. 24 in downtown Palmer, Alaska, as the sun began to sink behind the snowcapped mountains that flank the picturesque Mat-Su Valley, 51-year-old Mark Chryson sat for an hour on a park bench, reveling in tales of his days as chairman of the Alaska Independence Party. The stocky, gray-haired computer technician waxed nostalgic about quixotic battles to eliminate taxes, support the “traditional family” and secede from the United States. So long as Alaska remained under the boot of the federal government, said Chryson, the AIP had to stand on guard to stymie a New World Order. He invited a Salon reporter to see a few items inside his pickup truck that were intended for his personal protection. “This here is my attack dog,” he said with a chuckle, handing the reporter an exuberant 8-pound papillon from his passenger seat. “Her name is Suzy.” Then he pulled a 9-millimeter Makarov PM pistol — once the standard-issue sidearm for Soviet cops — out of his glove compartment. “I’ve got enough weaponry to raise a small army in my basement,” he said, clutching the gun in his palm. “Then again, so do most Alaskans.” But Chryson added a message of reassurance to residents of that faraway place some Alaskans call “the 48.” “We want to go our separate ways,” he said, “but we are not going to kill you.” Though Chryson belongs to a fringe political party, one that advocates the secession of Alaska from the Union, and that organizes with other like-minded secessionist movements from Canada to the Deep South, he is not without peculiar influence in state politics, especially the rise of Sarah Palin. An obscure figure outside of Alaska, Chryson has been a political fixture in the hometown of the Republican vice-presidential nominee for over a decade. During the 1990s, when Chryson directed the AIP, he and another radical right-winger, Steve Stoll, played a quiet but pivotal role in electing Palin as mayor of Wasilla and shaping her political agenda afterward. Both Stoll and Chryson not only contributed to Palin’s campaign financially, they played major behind-the-scenes roles in the Palin camp before, during and after her victory. Enjoy this story? Buzz up! Thanks for your support. Palin backed Chryson as he successfully advanced a host of anti-tax, pro-gun initiatives, including one that altered the state Constitution’s language to better facilitate the formation of anti-government militias. She joined in their vendetta against several local officials they disliked, and listened to their advice about hiring. She attempted to name Stoll, a John Birch Society activist known in the Mat-Su Valley as “Black Helicopter Steve,” to an empty Wasilla City Council seat. “Every time I showed up her door was open,” said Chryson. “And that policy continued when she became governor.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SnCCorinthos4ever Posted October 10, 2008 Members Share Posted October 10, 2008 Wow and this is the same brainless bimbo that is going on and on about Obama and Ayres. Her association with this group is IMHO 100 times worse than Ayres holding any type of fundraising party for Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members David_Vickers Posted October 10, 2008 Members Share Posted October 10, 2008 I agree. I think McCain has a bad temper too and I think he's looking like a racist to me too. With the "that one" and not looking at Obama at all in the 1st debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members David_Vickers Posted October 10, 2008 Members Share Posted October 10, 2008 What a load of b.s!! Sarah Palin is dumber than almost all Democrats I know, especially in the public arena and is dumber than a lot of Republicans too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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