Barack Obama Elected President!

[cct]

And this is a deliberate attempt to link Mary Louise Parker with that bra she lost!

Or maybe to suggest McCain and Palin are boobs?

[GoldenDogs]

Actually, you can call me John Sidney.

No, I wish I could change the name on here... Yo, Chandler... a little help? I wish I could change it to GoldenDogs.

But feel free to just call me Brian.

[George008]

LOL! We needed this silliness...see you all tomorrow..

[cct]

Well, there's a lot you CAN do. However, no one ever wants to discuss it. They want to belly ache, and then they want a quick fix. THe issue is that everyone thinks they can legislate what goes on in a classroom because everyone has been to school. But you don't see me telling a doctor how to do his job, because I've been in surgery before. Or telling the CEO of the bank how to run his business, because I have a checking account there. That would be absurd, right?

[GoldenDogs]

Yup, Eye Uhgree.

Guwdneyt ahl. Sea yew laytur.

[Jess]

Casey, you are offended about something every single day. Nobody cares.

On the ads: As far as the sex ed crap, it was a deliberately misleading ad. The Palin in a swimsuit internet crap is deliberately misleading. One wrong does not justify another. I do think there is a difference between a presidential campaign willingly and knowingly paying for a misleading ad (and I think it is outright lying) and internet psychos. Although I will grant you in this environment that internet rumors tend to take on reality.

I also agree with those folks who talk about teachers and teachers being blamed. First I really do not think this country's education is a bad as people say. I also think that the overwhelming majority of teachers are pretty damn good and very dedicated. They don't get paid squat and I personally feel pretty good about my public education. All of you seem pretty bright. I think teachers do a pretty good job. All the comparative analysis of other countries are as misleading as McCain's ads . It's really easy to have great math scholars when you channel all the kids who are not naturally gifted into technical school. Teachers in America give full attention to all kids.

Bush did like being referred to as W and in fact his re-election sticker was a W.

[Roman]

Oh. One thing.

You are more than welcomed to post any articles you like in this thread, seeing as the ones I post are biased.

Thanks.

[Toups]

Thanks Greg!

Man, what a pathetic ad!!

I'm glad I'm not rooting for McCain!

[cct]

Roman, please note the words underlined and in bold above. You have the right to post the links you think pertinent, just as I have the right to scroll on by. You don't have to stop; in fact you should probably continue; as inevitably, someone follows your links and we enter some great discussion. I wish I could find some sources I could trust, but I've not bothered either. We all contribute to the thread in ways we choose and should continue to do so.

[Jess]

It looks like the polls are all over the place. I think some of them must be using registered voters and others likely voters. I think the Rs are trying to say that Florida is already in McCain's pocket to dis-engage the Ds in that state. The only survey saying its a R state is Rove's.

[George008]

It was a joke. Lighten up..

[Roman]

Well, he's doing his job. Trying to surpress Democratric turnout by saying it is in McCain's column. But every other poll show it to be even.

We'll find out November 4th. I saw Howard Fineman say that Florida will come down to Election Day.

[George008]

What are you basing this argument on? What evidence do you have that this is the case?

Are the Democrats trying to "dis-engage" Republicans in the states that they have the lead? CA, NY, PA...etc...Of course not...

Definitely not true...

Here are all of the polls for FL in September.

RCP Average 09/05 - 09/17 -- 48.9 44.4 McCain +4.5

SurveyUSA 09/16 - 09/17 707 LV 51 45 McCain +6

CNN/Time 09/14 - 09/16 907 RV 48 48 Tie

FOX News/Rasmussen 09/14 - 09/14 500 LV 49 44 McCain +5

National Journal/FD 09/11 - 09/15 400 RV 44 44 Tie

InAdv/PollPosition 09/10 - 09/10 511 LV 50 42 McCain +8

Quinnipiac 09/05 - 09/09 1032 LV 50 43 McCain +7

PPP (D) 09/06 - 09/07 986 LV 50 45 McCain +5

[Wales2004]

I no longer read what is posted by certain posters but when someone quotes a poster in his/her response, I do get to see that. As a result I saw two things last night that fall under the things that make you go hmmmmm category.

The gist of one was that Barack Obama's mother wanted him to be associated with Islam since she gave him the middle name Hussein (this in reference to the whole Barry H. thing and the impression that the H. was being used to drum up the whole Hussein is a Muslim terrorist fear). So hmmmmmm his mother knew over four decades ago that Islam was going to be seeing as akin to terrorism by some people in USA......I don't think so. She may have wanted him to have an Islamic name but what does that have to do with anything since she named him decades ago? Nothing....exactly (I'm being my own amen chorus).

The other was that Barry H. wasn't the worst thing he could be called because look at all the horrible things Palin has been called. This little tit for tat logic is why the quality of debates go down. What makes it even faultier is Barack Obama is not the one saying all of those horrible things about Palin so it's the wrong tit for tat.

In my own ridiculous sense of logic I would think that saying Barry H. isn't the worst thing he can be called because obviously he's been called a lot worse would make a whole lot more sense. Uh maybe I should have paid more attention in school.

But back to victimized Palin who is quite clearly the only one suffering discrimination in this campaign (cough cough waffles)...please let me know when her defenders have gotten those little sexist action figures of her banned so that I can start to take their charges of sexism seriously.....see it was sexist of Tina Fey to spoof her but it wasn't sexist of that Fox News contributor to refer to her tits and other body part. America, America.....

[George008]

Thanks for your subtlety..How very indirect and priggish of you...This is in reference to a post that I made, if anyone is wondering who Wales has blocked out...

How many more times are you going to reference that you no longer read my posts? Does this make you somehow above petty debate? It would show more esteem on your part if you addressed my posts directly instead of the back-handed manner that you have adopted.

I said that his mother associated him to Islam far before Republicans did. Now it seems to be the fault of Republicans that his middle name is of Muslim origin. Although his name can easily be used in a negative connotation, no one can deny the fact, that it is his name..

I also made note of the fact that he is the only Presidential candidate in history that has a name that is politically-incorrect to use..

Obama supporters embrace every aspect of the man, except his name...Republicans are chastised for repeating his birth name. It's just silly.