This is the Presidential Campaign Thread.

Barack Obama Vs. John McCain.

Edited November 6, 200817 yr by Toups

Ok, dude.

It's a known fact that when people have nothing to do, they gather together for any political event in town. Especially in Oregon.

I know George Bush is responsible for many things but I can't go along with the notion that he weakened the media which has had its problems before he came on the scene. And I'm no fan of the media but for HC to try to make them a scapegoat in her predicament is pretty dishonest. They were quite beneficial to her when she was doing well or touting her position as the comeback kid and if they didn't pay any attention to her now she'd be a non factor. Sure there are some who have been unfair to her because of whatever issues with her but she has probably antagonized her fair share of the media as well.

I think she is saying to hell with it (in regard to the media). She knows her winning the primary is a longshot now. At least she gets the satisfaction of flipping off the media. Good for her and go for it. She has nothing to lose by getting in the media's face and she gains personal satisfaction. I think it must be satisfying for her to tell them to f off. I also think after the Whitewater crap, all she went through as First Lady, she has earned the right to gain that satisfaction.

Edited May 20, 200817 yr by Jess

It's a known fact that when people have nothing to do, they gather together for any political event in town. Especially in Oregon.

I have been to Oregon and they tend to love social gatherings up there

I think she is saying to hell with it. She knows her winning the primary is a longshot now. At least she gets the satisfaction of flipping off the media. Good for her and go for it.

Me loves it when someone gives the media a good ole F U

Hillary, for the love of god step aside

It pains me to see her make such a complete fool of herself.

Hillary IS NOT a FOOL and IS NOT making a fool of herself. She'd be making a fool of herself by stepping aside. All votes should be counted.

Owensboro, KY, has a great BBQ place.

Anyway back on topic. I watched her speech Sunday in Mayfield (?). It was a very good speech.

Oh Man that picture of Obama in Oregon is something. That crowd is huge. It reminds me of pictures you would see of Robert Kennedy.

Owensboro's great BBQ is Moonlite. It's awesome. I actually ate there Saturday. Love a lot of their food, BBQ Pork, Mutton & Beef.

I agree with the crowed in Oregon for Obama. I still think it'll be Obama & Hillary----but now probably in that order. I'm still voting for Hillary tomorrow because in my heart and soul I think and know she's the best candidate for the job.

CORRECTION: The crowd in Bowling Green was actually "over 1000" as reported by the Bowling Green Daily News. I actually aimed to type 2000 instead of the 4000 that I typed. The story in the Daily News also stated that "hundreds had to be turned away because they arrived too late".

Hillary IS NOT a FOOL and IS NOT making a fool of herself. She'd be making a fool of herself by stepping aside. All votes should be counted.

I agree

It's a known fact that when people have nothing to do, they gather together for any political event in town. Especially in Oregon.

I know George Bush is responsible for many things but I can't go along with the notion that he weakened the media which has had its problems before he came on the scene. And I'm no fan of the media but for HC to try to make them a scapegoat in her predicament is pretty dishonest. They were quite beneficial to her when she was doing well or touting her position as the comeback kid and if they didn't pay any attention to her now she'd be a non factor. Sure there are some who have been unfair to her because of whatever issues with her but she has probably antagonized her fair share of the media as well.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out over the coming days, if this by chance gains any traction.

I want to throw out that Hillary is gaining ground in Oregon, according to the latest poll..only down 5 percent

If Hillary was in Obama's place i bet she wouldn't be talking about all votes being counted?

I think we all know the Dems would have shut Obama down Months ago if he was were Hillary is now!

It's just kind of sad to see her end up like this!

I think they should count the people's votes in Michigan and Florida (obviously that would put her ahead)...we will see if the pledged delegates get seated next Saturday when they meet with the rules committee

Do the crime, do the time. Michigan and Florida need to do the time.

I think they should have been fined, not stripped of their delegates. We will see how the committee rules next Saturday

If Hillary was in Obama's place i bet she wouldn't be talking about all votes being counted?

I think we all know the Dems would have shut Obama down Months ago if he was were Hillary is now!

It's just kind of sad to see her end up like this!

This is what has always rubbed me the wrong way.

Last year, when these two states broke the rules, she signed that document stating that they should lose every delegate for doing so. Now.........she is not only acting like she never signed the document, she's crying disinfranchisement if they are not seated.

I agree with the Doctor........they knew what they were doing is wrong, and if a deal can't be worked out between her and Barack, they shouldn't be seated.

That's what she gets for being arrogant in the first place.

every single americans vote should be counted, IMHO.

And I just wanted to throw this out there:

From CNN:

Tracking Poll: Obama opens up biggest lead ever over Clinton

Posted: 04:35 PM ET

From CNN Associate Producer Martina Stewart

An estimated 75,000 people came out to support Barack Obama Sunday in Oregon.

(CNN)– Amid reports that the Democratic Party’s leaders and largest fundraisers are beginning to take steps to try to bring their party together after a long, hard-fought primary campaign, the latest Gallup daily tracking poll suggests Democratic voters are beginning to coalesce around Sen. Barack Obama.

Obama holds a 16-point lead over Sen. Hillary Clinton in Gallup’s latest daily tracking poll released Monday. He has the support of 55 percent of Democratic and Democratic-leaning voters while Clinton’s support is at 39 percent.

Previously, Obama’s largest lead over Clinton was 11 percentage points, in daily tracking polls conducted in mid-May and mid-April, according to Gallup. Prior to John Edwards’s exit from the Democratic nomination race, Clinton held a 20-point lead over Obama in mid-January.

The results are based on a survey of 1,261 Democratic and Democratic-leaning voters using combined data from May 16-18, 2008. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus three percentage points.

Kentucky and Oregon hold their Democratic primaries Tuesday. Obama is favored in Oregon’s contest and Clinton in Kentucky’s, according to CNN’s latest poll of polls in each state.

I agree with the Doctor........they knew what they were doing is wrong, and if a deal can't be worked out between her and Barack, they shouldn't be seated.

Something tells me they have already worked out a deal. They just need the DNC to accept it

Also, I don't care who has the bigger lead over the other between Obama and Hillary...I am looking for who leads by more with McCain. One poll shows her and the other him. As long as they both are beating him, I am happy

Edited May 20, 200817 yr by DevotedToAMC