Barack Obama Elected President!

[Jess]

He also ran a very poor campaign for president. He did a great job on 9/11. I think he was the voice of calm. Other than that, he really was not that good a governor IMO. He did handle 9/11 great. The right wing of that party never would have accepted him. I give him point, at least he did not change his positions on social issues.

I too think he is more democratic than republican today. Of course, New York Republicans are different.

[Wales2004]

Maybe it has more to do with his own personal finances. There are some Republicans who aere in the party mainly because they're rich or have a business.

[George008]

As did Joe Biden.

He was never governor, only mayor.

I think it's up to Giuliani to decide which party he belongs to. He evidentally sides with republicans because his views on economic issues and national security outweigh his stances on social issues.

[Wales2004]

[George008]

I am still baffled by the voting "with" Bush spin. I would hope that the American public is smart enough to see through that. Bush votes on nothing. He is an executive and not a legislator.

[bandbfan]

I think that's kind of a semantics problem. If you're doing something that Bush approves of, then you're "voting" with him.

[George008]

If semantics are the problem then an exact percentage (90%) cannot be used. There is no way of knowing how Bush would vote on each and every issue. He does not participate in the daily debates in congress. Is there a record somewhere of Bush's stances that would generate an exact numerical number compared with John McCain's votes? Is there public access to this information somewhere that I dont know about or does the Obama camp have exclusive access?

The fact is, this statement that is being used over and over again by the Obama campaign is not true.

I guess if Obama's campaign can draw this conclusion with Bush/McCain, then I could say Obama has voted with Rosie O'Donnell or Michael Moore 90% of the time.

[Wales2004]

Pretty much so. It's probably packs more of a punch to say he voted with Bush as opposed to he voted for policies approved/supported by Bush. However you phrase it, the end result is the same so it is totally about semantics.

That's a whole lot different than telling outright lies.

[Roman]

Do you mean when the Bush Admin. sent a piece of legislation (Such as they would do), McCain voted in favor of that legislation?

[Wales2004]

The last entry:

For anyone interested the blogger is named Bob Cesca on Huffington

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/li...c_b_123699.html

[bandbfan]

This is all IMO, but they're saying that Bush is the ideal Republican. And he was until this campaign started. I'm (only) assuming that they're saying that McCain voted in a Republican way 90% of the time. (Which, I'm actually surprised about since many conservatives didn't 100% back him until Palin)

[George008]

That is not how congress works. No none-member of the senate or house can sponsor a bill.

[Wales2004]

I think it's more like that Bush would get sponsors for whatever he wanted pushed through who would present the bill as their own brilliant idea.

[George008]

Maybe not an outright lie, which I never said it was, but it is very misleading. I think it demeans the expected intelligence of the average American. It is in no way based on fact. If you can prove me wrong and provide me with documented examples that prove the accuracy of the 90% conclusion, please do so.

How can you attach a specific percentage to Bush's approval of a vote?

[ReddFoxx]

They aren't saying Bush voted on anything, the point is that McCain has voted for almost everything Bush has wanted and that is voting with the Bush Agenda. It's all about context, but it doesn't matter how it's phrased, McCain still voted for the Bush agenda 90%.