B&B: Week of Nov. 12th Discussion!

[YRBB]

Yes, I have to admitt that my opinion of LML and her work was much better, up until December 2006 or so. Then, whatever semblence of good she had was quickly lost and gone. I've been trying to watch, I really have, but I can't--It's too damn boring!

I agree that Y&R (under Bell and Alden) was a marvel, a soap heaven. And, if it were in good shape, Y&R would kick B&B's butt anytime. But, right now, B&B is miles better than any soap on air.

And, I really do think that this has got to do with Alden. Ever since she came on board, the pace slowed down a little, we have super continuation, a uniformity in scripts, references to the past, it's all been absolutely marvelous. As I've said before, B&B is more Y&R now than B&B is.

But, even though it wouldn't be the best for B&B, I would DEFINITELY want Alden back to Y&R. She has worked on that show since 1974, she knows it, she has grown up with it and she is the only one who can make it good again (although I am sure that it's going to take much time to recover from the [!@#$%^&*] that LML's done). I'd definitely want Alden to go back to Y&R. And, who knows, maybe Bell learned a couple of things on how to make the show a little better.

[sheilaforever]

How you came up with that is beyond me.

I'm a little annoyed how they write Jake. He's written SO clumsy. ANd he kinda looks like 15 years ago, just a little older. It's all just odd. LOL!

I still love to seem him back again...

As you said: fantastic week, even more fantastic Friday show and I'm SOOOOO pumped for this week.

[Cat]

Interesting... you know, I got nervous when I heard the rumors that Kay Alden might go back to Y&R! I loved Y&R also but LML has really driven this show into the ground and I cannot bring myself to watch anymore. It almost physically pains me to see characters I once loved acting in such an alien way. Acting as if they were on a badly-written ABC show (not saying ABC Daytime is badly written as a whole, but there are some shows that are better than others at the moment). I gave up Y&R back in August, tuned in to see Out of Our Asses and tuned out again, horrified at how far Y&R had fallen. It wasn't just bad -- it was bad and boring.

Y&R is going to have to do A LOT to bring me back on board. Big things like, you know, phenomenally better writing and touching on its history and rehiring Drucilla and others who have been fired would be a start. Although there again I am torn as I ::ADORE:: Eileen Davidson and Heather Tom on B&B at the moment -- in some ways more than I ever loved them on Y&R (I know, I know -- sacrilege).

Secondly, Y&R needs to do some little things -- like improve its production values which I think actually deteriorated under LML. The lighting is no longer rich and lush and character-heightening. And the old background music which used to add nuance and tension and romance to a scene needs to return, IMO. None of this generic college-rock whining away on the background.

More than anything, though, I don't want Alden to let B&B go just because it is the "little-sister" show. She and Brad Bell's partnership has reinvigorated the show to the point where it is now comparable to Y&R even during Y&R's greatest run. I'm biased because I have watched B&B since 1987. I don't want B&B to suffer just to prop up Y&R. I think both shows should be setting the standard in soaps, not just one of them to the detriment of the other.

However, I know KA's big love is Y&R... I just hope if she goes over there to HW that she leaves behind the foundations and template (and writers) for B&B to go forward in the current high-quality manner it is doing now.

[PJA]

I don't think they forgot about Taylor and Stephanie's relationship. Taylor and Stephanie are no longer friends and it should stay that way...unless they want to rewrite history.

[YRBB]

I know! Y&R's characterization used to be so strong, that you used to know those characters. You used to know that, when Jill knocked on Kay's door, some [!@#$%^&*] was going to happen soon. You didn't need anything else for a cliffhanger--just the threat, because those characters were so real that you didn't need any gimmicks.

I agree that Y&R has A LONG WAY before it gets back to its former glory. I think it will take quite a few months (if not more) to turn it into what it was. As for Eileen Davidson and Heather Tom, I don't know.... If they get a new angle for Ashley on B&B, then I'd love for her to stay there, because I like her character much more there than how she ended up on Y&R. However, the Abbotts have been basically wipped out and having Jack's sister back in town would do wonders, if they gave her story and turned her back to the strong woman that she can be.

On the other hand, as much as I would LOVE Heather's Victoria back, Katie is just too damn perfect and the return of the Logans has been perfect. I REALLY don't want them to go anywhere. So this is really something that cuts both ways, to be honest, unless Tom has already left B&B when and if she re-joins Y&R.

You know, the weird thing is that, even though I always immensely loved B&B, I always viewed Y&R as my favorite and the best. And I kinda want that to be the case again, I have to admit. Even though B&B has rich characters and some rich history (courtesy of Bell), Y&R is the one that is truly fantastic and I really, really, really want that again. Am I wrong to want that?

Yeah, I really think that KA wouldn't stay away from Y&R, no matter what. But I'm sure she wouldn't leave B&B hanging.