I say just fire Goutman, since he's writing like 70% of the show anyway. Give JP a really good Co-HW.

Edited June 8, 200718 yr by Jay

I agree put Meg back with Dusty. They had lots of chemistry. When they were on the ratings were much higher and their breakup was well done. It reminded me of Carly and Jack. Instead, they broke them up to put Dusty with boring Jennifer. The ratinss started going down after that. Put Craig with Lucinda. They have so much history together.

Meg and Paul are boring together. The role of Paul needs to be recast. I never liked Roger in the role.

Edited June 8, 200718 yr by Soapsuds

Even if they throw Friday out as a fluke, the rest of the days' ratings stink! What on earth are CBS and PGP waiting for? I sure don't see this week's ratings being any better. Dump the duo now!

Anna!!!! Is it really you? I agree about JPiss. Goutman I wholeheartedly believe should move to GL. He's been at ATWT too long and he's bored with it. He needs a new challenge IMO.

How about Ed Scott for EP & Lorraine Broderick or Carolyn Culliton as head writer? Just keep Jackass Smith off this show- if you think JPiss ATWT has been dark, Jackass won't even use lighting in his stories.

But why are the characters that way for, because of the writing. There is no reason why characters could not be made to be interesting and not be in a couple it just takes a writer that knows what the hell she/he is doing. I hate to even say this but you are right they are boring when they are not in a couple, and even then they are boring, lol. Take Luke for example I love Luke with all my heart but JP makes him so boring because she never gives him anything interesting to do, Barbara is even boring now, for the same reason. JP writes for couples/triangles/ and now her new favorite quadrangles and this is not what ATWT is about it is about Family drama and business intrigue and mystery, not couples and such. When was the last time we had a mystery with the adults in the storyline and not the teens? When was the last time we had a real business storyline, the WorldWide thing started off right, but now is back to being about Craig/Paul/Meg and not the business. The only thing JP has done good so far is the Lily/Faith Family drama stuff that is about it, and know she is dropping the ball on that storyline also. Yes we need couples but not everything on the show needs to be about that, it just does not work atleast IMO anyway.

My point being this is not B&B this is ATWT, B&B is the couple/triangle campy show not ATWT. It works on B&B not ATWT.

I totally agree with that. What particularly annoys me about JPiss is she's brought on some characters that I liked and even loved very quickly- yes, I'm talking about Meg & Gwen. But then once the fans get on board with them, she goes & ruins them by watering both of them down and compromising their morals & integrity, particularly in the case of Meg. Meg & Paul was just a bad idea from the start- hell, I'd rather see her still desperately trying to get Dusty to notice her than having giggle time with Todd Manning Paul.

Gwen actually whines now. She b!tches, moans, but takes no action regarding her life. This is the girl that raised herself and has lived on her own since High School? Methinksnot.

It's coming. You just got to be patient. CBS is going to act soon. Everytime ABC makes a move, CBS esp P&G shows always have a counter attack. Since AMC and OLTL just changed their writers, ATWT will soon follow suite. The writing is basically on the wall with the drop in ratings

I love your optimism, but we've been screaming this sh!t since about July of last year and it's only gotten worse. ATWT is a show that has always built an audience by the quality of their writing. Looking at the history of their ratings, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that when the ratings went down, poor writing was the direct cause.

I say just fire Goutman, since he's writing like 70% of the show anyway. Give JP a really good Co-HW.

NOOOOO!!! Are you F-ING KIDDING ME? :angry:

I say, just fire Valentini, and leave Higley as HW, with Carliavati as her co-head.

Yes. It's that bad. Hackley may be the new wave, but JPiss invented Libidozone. Nuff Said.

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Unless we hear something soon, CBS is planning on cancelling ATWT and GL. In one year they've gone from a 2.7 (beating mega hit GH) to a 2.0 and nothing has been done? This should be emergency time and that writer should be GONE. No way you lose that many viewers if you're doing the right thing.

I said when they won the Writers Guild award that Passanante wasn't going anywhere. Sad thing is that LUKE's story got them that award and they don't even write for Luke! Sick! It's been six months and what would Van have to submit for the Emmys? Nothing.

Does CBS even have a backup plan for getting rid of ATWT and GL(i.e. new soaps/gameshows/news programming)?!

They can't just get rid of those shows without having something to replace them.

NOOOOO!!! Are you F-ING KIDDING ME? :angry:

I say, just fire Valentini, and leave Higley as HW, with Carliavati as her co-head.

Yes. It's that bad. Hackley may be the new wave, but JPiss invented Libidozone. Nuff Said.

Ok.. I only say that because JP was good with a strong Co-Head Writer, Hogan. We dont know how Ron is and we have never seen Dena with a really good Co-HW. The main reason JP sucks is because she got tired. Once she took over a HW, she was going strong and she ran out. That's why Co-HW's are needed. Like I said, Ryan broke this down on In The Zone.

Ok.. I only say that because JP was good with a strong Co-Head Writer, Hogan. We dont know how Ron is and we have never seen Dena with a really good Co-HW. The main reason JP sucks is because she got tired. Once she took over a HW, she was going strong and she ran out. That's why Co-HW's are needed. Like I said, Ryan broke this down on In The Zone.

The reason Jean did well at the beginning is because she was finishing out Hogan's stories. After that she didnt know squat what to do with the show!

Jean I believe was co-HW in name only with Hogan. She was Co-HW with Agnes Nixon for a year prior to taking over and AMC was awesome then.... because Agnes was the one steering the ship. As soon as Agnes handed the reigns over to Jean, AMC went 100-0 in no time flat. I have never seen AMC in rougher shape than it was under JPiss.

And now she is doing the same thing to ATWT. I have not see anything you'd call quality soap opera on ATWT since Jennifer's death. Even at that time it was slipping.

The reason Jean did well at the beginning is because she was finishing out Hogan's stories. After that she didnt know squat what to do with the show!

Mind you Hogan's last year wasn't anything spectacular but it was ten times better thns this crap she is spweing now. Was the babyswitch a Hogan story? Because ATWT was awesome during that last half of 2005 and the first part of 2006. As soon as we had Emily holding Dusty hostage that's when the rails began to come off IMO!

I have not see anything you'd call quality soap opera on ATWT since Jennifer's death. Even at that time it was slipping.

It was superb acting with everyone involved in the storyline. But the story sucked! It didnt make any sense....one of Jean's main trademarks. And the ratings were slipping then.

It was superb acting with everyone involved in the storyline. But the story sucked! It didnt make any sense....one of Jean's main trademarks. And the ratings were slipping then.

Oh yeah LOL it was ridiculous and plot driven as hell but yes superb performances! That's what made it quality.

I think cast morale with the show has got to be low because they just do not seem as into it. The same thing was happening on AMC the last couple of years. Now that the hack McTavish has been fired the cast seems rejuvenated. Writing changes always do that!

Jean Passanante, Megan McTavish, Dean Higley and quite a few others need to be rounded up and shipped to Hack Island where they can write all their stories and present it to apes. Even apes though may have enough intelligence to knowtheir stuff is crap too though, better stick with presenting it to the trees.

If something is not done by August the latest ATWT is cooked! It wont be on the air next year.

^ I tend the agree. The longer things go without any action, the more likely P&G and CBS are finished with the two longest running soap operas.

That will be one major sad day.

^ I tend the agree. The longer things go without any action, the more likely P&G and CBS are finished with the two longest running soap operas.

That will be one major sad day.

Very true. And i have watched the show for almost 30 years now. It will be a sad day in daytime.

Anna!!!! Is it really you?

I'm not Anna but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express. Sorry couldn't help myself