Oh, lord. I see her typing.

The Martins make me SICK. Tad/Lamie/Joe were all too happy to help the Carey's kept Mimo from Binks. How their outraged about Adam doing the samething to them. As for Ethan's "mother" she seems way too old for Zach let alone Josh. If she want's to get revenge on somone shouldn't be Janet. She's the one who killed him. I used to be an Ethan fan until he turned his back on the 2 people who could have been his family Binks&mimo. He backstabbed them bigtime. Where as Zach looks out for them. As for Janet everything that happens is Lamie/Tad/Jeff's fault if they hadn't pulled that stunt with Adam and the looneybin Janet would be stil there. PS" i HATE Erica stupid talkshow she should go back to running Enchantment. PS PS: Whatever happened to her sidekick Val?

Ethan is the one who completed the Miranda Center lets not forget that after all the attacks he would not.

PS: Whatever happened to her sidekick Val?

We'll see him again in a few weeks.

COOL! My fave Val scene of all time is when kendall tookover Enchantment and Val was running around PV with the painting of of La Kane.

We'll see him again in a few weeks.

HA! My last memory of Val was of him in drag. Erica had sent him to the casino to snoop and Zach found him and took him back to New Beginnings.

HA! My last memory of Val was of him in drag. Erica had sent him to the casino to snoop and Zach found him and took him back to New Beginnings.

Yeah and I believe that was the last time he aired on the show. I've missed him, hopefully the show will use him more now that they're using him at all.

COOL! My fave Val scene of all time is when kendall tookover Enchantment and Val was running around PV with the painting of of La Kane.

I loved that, I think that has to go as my fave Val set-of-scenes as well. That portrait is so in Val's shrine to Erica. BTW they need to show us Val's shrine to Erica because we all know he has to have made one, lol, there's no way there isn't a shrine.

Big fat WORD to your entire post, Angela! One thing I HATE about this Hannah/Zach thing is how Ethan is being written post-humously as being nearly qualified for sainthood. Puh-leeze. I wanted to scream when Zach told Hannah today that Ethan was "a wonderful boy". Uh...no, he wasn't. He was a vengeful, bitter, scheming, lying FULLY GROWN ADULT who lost Kendall through his own doing and then had the audacity to blame Zach. I, for one, am glad Ethan is gone.

Its not cool to talk ill about the dead, especially not one who is your son. Im glad Zach isnt that tacky. Hannah is the boy's mother. It would be horrible if Zach talked horrible about him. Loved ones like the hear the good things about those who have left him. Besides if Zach were going to bring up how messed up Ethan became, he would have to bring up his part in doing that and I dont think he wants that to happen. Ethan was a great person who was caring and level headed....until Zach denied him and helped to trash his life

I didn't feel a bit sorry for Krystal. Bobbie Eakes can cry buckets and all I can think is, "Bitch deserves this!"

Adam has really been the only adult to put Jenny's best interests first. He's found her a couple who want a child instead of keeping her for himself (like Babe did) or letting Janet raise her.

I love Hannah and hope TPTB change their minds and keep her long term. She's the most intelligent woman on this show currently and it would be a shame to get rid of her and keep the whiny women like Babe and Annie.

As far as Zach/Ethan/Hannah goes, Zach was an !@#$%^&*] to his son and really didn't care about him. At least Hannah is now trying to put her life back together. I don't think it's fair to say she should have come back sooner given that she didn't know where Ethan was living.

Here is what I don't get. What was Zach supposed to do when he found about Ethan? Sit him on his lap, tell him a bedtime story? Ethan was a farking grown man, wasn't a 5 year old who needed his daddy and he wasn't exactly kind to Zach either. BOTH Zach and Ethan needed to be kicked in the arse.

It's sad, I probably might like Ethan now, but can't thanks to those of his fans who can't seem to own up to his part in all of this, and can't because of how the show is trying to make him into some kind of "saint" now that he's pushing up daisy's, and burning in hell with his rapist uncle

I couldn't agree more!

ETA:

Zach marrying Kendall the first time around didn't bother me. Yeah she was his son's ex but AMC didn't play up the father/son bond and imho, Ethan and Kendall weren't this same great love. I mean Ethan swore on his love for Kendall and lied. Ethan really scored points with me there. Yup [/end sacrasm]

ETA2:

I love that Zach is getting his second chance on fatherhood with both Spike and Amelia-to-be. Yes Zach made mistakes with Ethan but he deserves this second chance. JMHO

Edited April 24, 200718 yr by Laurie

Oh, lord. I see her typing.

LOL

Laurie big fat WORD! I mean Kendall had issues with Erica when she came to town, but she eventually tried to move past them, and her issues were at least somewhat justified(Erica telling her she sees her rapist father's face when she looks at her)

The gall of that bumpkin slut to say, "I know I hurt alot of people, but it was never intentional"...

KWAKS is beneath contempt, and I am glad Adam took the baby. Hope it hurts like hell! I don't give a sh!t! She acts as if she had a heart attack behind the wheel of a car and as a result, ran down and killed someone. That, my dear, is an accident. Stealing a baby and watching the mother go mad is NOT!

SLUT! I can't stand those Carey Whores!

And Janet just needs to shut up and take the kid. Please just shut her up!

The 3 stooges??? What can you say but, "HURRY UP AND BE GONE MCTRASH"! The high road Toad and those 2 b!itches (AJ and Lamie) are taking? Makes me scratch my head.

Love Hannah, and she and Zach are really hot together! I agree Steve, she's a keeper. SH is an amazing actress, and it shows every time she's onscreen. AMC would really be idiots to let her go!

Keep Zoarf and please let Bianca go! She was never needed! Zoarf long term would be good for this show. Let's see him/her during the entire transition, and down the road, a real love interest who has to deal with whether or not getting involved with a transgendered person is something they can do. I would have loved to see that .

ANDREA

At least Hannah is now trying to put her life back together.

By guilting Zach into committing murder? The irony here is she did put her life together except now she's trying to pretend she didn't.

I don't think it's fair to say she should have come back sooner given that she didn't know where Ethan was living.

There is the rub. She DID know where Ethan because she gave Ethan to her friend, Edith Ramsay. She didn't give him up for adoption to some random family she was not familiar with. She didn't have to go search for him because she always knew where he was and yet didn't, even when Alexander presumably died.

I find Hannah to be really one note right now. She has no depth or layers. What's her motivation for revenge, ACS ruining her life? Sorry I don't buy that, someone can't ruin your life unless you give them the power to do so.

Hannah is trying to put her life back together? HUH? Did you watch yesterday's show? The woman is living 20 some years in the past. I mean it's stupid to think she couldn't have moved on in all that time.

Hannah knew exactly where Ethan was. My understanding was she kept tabs on him, and Edith Ramsey was a friend of hers.

Hannah waited over a year after the son she "supposedly" loves dies, to come to Pine Valley.

I mean seriously, where was she when ACS's "death" was in all the papers in 2003? She could have shown up when news about Zach being ACJr, and was still alive came out, she had plenty of chances to show up and reclaim her son.

So please it's BS that Hannah is any better. She DENIED her son, more so than Zach ever did. She had 4 long years when she had a window of opportunity to claim her son with no fear of ACS doing anything. Besides Ethan was an adult, and ACS really couldn't do all that much anyways.

Edited April 24, 200718 yr by AMC Zendall Fan

I don't think they know what they want to do with Hannah. Clearly this was a McTavish story that was already in the works by the time she was fired.