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The Erica/Jack stuff = LMAO! That is all I can say about this 12 Days of Christmas randomness right now.

I'm loving the Zendall scenes - You rock it TK! I love how Kendall is trying to get him to open up to her...and he is.

WOW - powerful Bianca/Zoe scenes! Jeffrey and Eden are rocking it the most today. I feel so bad for Zoe - and it's the first time we've seen her/him yell and be really upset. I felt bad when he yelled at Bianca, asking her if she was going to make her stand in front of the mirror and call her/him names like her father did. I also loved how Bianca asked why she's supposed to feel sorry for Zoe - "because I'm supposed to be St. Bianca?". Perfect stuff so far today!

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I'm loving this Di/Aiden stuff - I love that Aiden is so protective over Di and how they acted like they were fighting and angry towards each other to lure the killer onto Di. Then of course a sad Zoe walks into dark Fusion and there is Di...and Aiden wrestles her from behind. This is great stuff. I'm wondering what Zoe will say tomorrow, or if Aiden even knows that is really Zarf dressed up.

I'm also enjoying all the ConFusion stuff. I'm a fan of Amanda/Josh...but not of her playing matchmaker to get Babe/Josh together.

I really don't like Jeff Martin. He is so sanctimonious. I really thought Erica had a point, then she pissed me off by calling Jeff to come get her away from Jack. But that is such an Erica thing to do I guess. I really enjoyed the first part of Jack/Erica until Jeff showed up. I'm not a fan of Jeff at all anymore. With that said, I really think Erica is just using Jeff to make Jack jealous, bc you can tell she deep down loves Jack and really doesn't love Jeff.

There is our Lesbian Leslie! Bianca totally looks like she's crushing on Leslie!

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I hated today's show. My hope for a new AMC after the past few weeks is gone. Today felt like it was back to the mess of the summer and fall.

Babe and Amanda giggling acting like two teenagers over the compact. Jeff Martin is being destroyed. Erica and Jackson in a storyline that would have been better reserved for 5 pre-teens. I hate hate hate Babe, Josh, Jeff and Amanda. As for Di and Aidan's plan...lame.

Kudos to TK and JC though.

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don't like Jeff Martin. He is so sanctimonious. I really thought Erica had a point, then she pissed me off by calling Jeff to come get her away from Jack. But that is such an Erica thing to do I guess. I really enjoyed the first part of Jack/Erica until Jeff showed up. I'm not a fan of Jeff at all anymore. With that said, I really think Erica is just using Jeff to make Jack jealous, bc you can tell she deep down loves Jack and really

doesn't love Jeff.

You said it very well and that's exactly what is going on :lol: Erica was talking crap today and she knows it. She is the one that walked out and she forgets that Jack came to her more than once asking her to come home and to talk things out. She also forgot the flowers he send and how he showed up to take her to that stupid NB party but she had already asked the bore to take her. Jeff Martin is the biggest wuss on two feet and he is pathetic to allow himself to be used like this. She couldn't care less about him in the romantic sense and he'll soon find out what all the other men eventually do. Jack is the one she loves and wants and she always goes back to him :P

I have to admit that I was cracking up at the begining when all those people kept showing up. I loved Jack's expressions :lol:

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I have to sadly agree and I think one of the big problems today was pacing of the storylines. Josh and Babe are exactly where they were months ago. Jack and Erica are exactly where they were months ago except now I hate Erica and Jeff is just awful. Trying to paint himself as the "good guy"? Typical Martin. It is such bad storytelling, after 20 years Jack and Erica do not understand each other? This is all manufactured nonsense and I still want Jack and Erica to reconcile. They think Jeff is viable competition? He's creepy yet boring. I liked the Jerica scenes until Jeff made an appearance and at that point I wanted Jack to throw them both overboard.

Babe keeping that compact in her purse is not a sign of true love, it's a sign that she's a skank. Mostly I just want her to die but if I can't get that I would like her to get a new hairstyle and a new dress. At this point I don't know who is in drag. Babe or Zarf. She's such a pretty girl and I don't understand why AMC has no idea how to dress her or style her hair. Di's dress was very ugly as well.

The show did have some strong moments. I thought some of the Zach and Kendall stuff was well done. The acting was good but the pace in this storyline needs to pick up. I'm hoping now that the secret is out in the open between them that this storyline will move but I'm thankful it is moving forward unlike the other storylines on this show. I do still love TK and AM in scenes together. The flashbacks were actually done well and normally I hate flashbacks in soaps.

I felt bad for Zoe once again but I did not like her behaviour towards Bianca. Bianca does not owe Zoe anything. Bianca is entitled to feel the way she wants and for someone who always wanted to be and think and feel who she truly is Zoe was awfully quick to jump on Bianca for feeling the way she does. I didn't like that but I had sympathy for both parties today. At least this is the other storyline that is actually moving. The acting was good in those scenes as well.

ETA: I just found out that today's show was written by Courtney Bugler. What a surprise. I don't know much about the writers but I do know her shows are always a mess. The acting saved the Jerica (WW, not so much SL), Zach/Kendall and Bianca/Zoe scenes.

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I am with you Tzelkos. Today was horrible all around. Bianca came off like a shrew even though Zoe's message to me seemed to be you have to love me... love me. It was all about him/her and not the shock that Bianca had just received. Bianca also had no real supporting dialogue to back up why she can't ( ie. I like female bodies) and then her 'deal with this on your own.' WTF? This is the woman who testified for the woman who stole her kid but she can't help Zarf cause he hit on her. BS. McHack is ripping Bianca apart to make Zoe sympathetic and so we will accept this pairing. Its not working for me. I would love her flirting with Leslie but I think its meant to show she feels something for Zarf/Zoe and I hate that aspect of it. I feel like these hacks are setting up the TG community against the lesbian community. I think the lesbians who have problems with the politics behind this particular pairing have explained why very well. I would hate to think how bad this would have come off in the hands of lesser actors.

But Barf was only part of a the problem today. Erica and Jack was horrid. Erica is selfish yes but this was beyond ridiculous. She looked like a five year old.

Babe and Josh. UGH I can't stand another five minutes of them. Babe really seems to want to work on her marriage does'nt she. :rolleyes:

Zach and Kendall. I wish they would give us more about this story. I am getting very bored because I haven't learned anything more than what I knew a month ago.

Comparing this show to DAYS which I also watch is doing it no favours in my eyes. I am getting at the end of my patience waiting for things to turn around. No way I can last till April if the rumours are true. After finding out who wrote this mess today I am not surprised how bad it was. I still can't believe there is such a shortage of good writers out there that we have to put up with a day like today.

ETA: OMG jenna it was like you read my mind while I was typing lol. Its just your quicker than me.

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LMAO. I was trying to not be too negative because everyone has been so rah rah rah about AMC the last couple of weeks but I'm glad other people see the mess that today's episode was and I never even caught the fact that Bianca and Leslie being together means that Bianca feels something for Zoe. I don't like that at all.

I don't know many people from the lesbien or TG community but as a straight woman, and I'm sorry to say it but that is the majority of the viewing audience, I just don't like this story and it's mostly because this is a show that has not given Bianca one real romantic relationship and they expect me to hop aboard this Zoe/Bianca train when I know this is all about publicity? Maybe if Bianca had a couple of real relationships under her belt I would be more open to this relationship. Right now, all I see is the agenda. I'm also so sick of Bianca being used to prop whatever MMT has on her agenda. I feel it strips the Bianca character of her integrity. At this point I rarely feel I know who Bianca is personality wise/character wise.

I think for AMC the Zoe coming out was handled relatively well or as well as I could have possibly expected from these hacks but this added I love Bianca/you love me Bianca stuff is just ruining the entire storyline for me.

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I think the poster means more in terms of the serial killer. When Simone was killed most of figured out that the killer had something to do with Zach's past because of his reaction, his focus on the gardenias and the ribbons and the visions he was having. We have learned about Zach's past but in terms of the actual serial killer we haven't learned much that most of had not already guessed.

So yes there was major movement on Zach's backstory and who the woman was but not so much on the serial killer. It basically confirmed what the audience had guessed but we are still no closer to who the killer is, why the killer is after Zach (I doubt someone is out to get him for what he did as a 5 year old) so maybe it's someone who hates the Cambius family for covering up Amelia's death since I'm not sold on the story baby boy Zach was told.

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I thinking Kenny's appearance was rather shocking.

He used to date Simone, but Simone never really thought him hot enough. He was a sweet but dorky lawyer who bailed out Simone and Fusion (including against some of Michael's corpororate tactics and schemes) numerous times...often pro bono because Fusion had no money at the time.

So as a lawyer, he knows something about the workings of Cambius Corporate umder Daddy and baby brother Cambii (connection to Zach).

And then there's the already noted for Simone particularly and Fusion in general.

Is Zoe the poster child for how NOT to get a second date?

Sheese. For whatever reasons Bianca's going to Leslie...let her do it! Girl's had a lot thrown at her and needs a reboot. I'll take a breather, please. McT thinks herself so veddy veddy esoteric tip-toeing back and forth across the lines here. And the hacks at ABCD really know how to gin it up.

The MayBeGayNowJustALesbianCheater back in Paris, the murders, now this with Zoe, who despite her own understandable anguish is freakin' pushy and selfish. She doesn't really care about how the presentation of her revelations affect Bianca and won't give the girl time to think. We have Hi, you expected a man, Ms. Lesbian Montgomery, Yet, Here, I am Zoe, the inner now outer lesbian self of Zarf, your man-date for the evening, please allow my to unload my lifestory, my coming out, my desperate need for your validation, presented in a upsetting manner to the lady...oh yeah, by the way...I love you and you are a bigot and a [!@#$%^&*] for not loving me? Shall I get the car so we can start our date? *sirens* Warning! Danger! Danger! Run like a mutha.

I understand what Zoe's going for, but she too blinded by her own need to be out to see what she's doing to Bianca.

I have my objections on the Bianca interaction and find the story really a set of cliches, but I've also read posts of actual TG folks who were touched by it. It all just leaves me terribly conflicted about it.

Kiss-Smack Kiss-Smack Ain't nothin' free with McT.

IcePrincessBinky. Yum. :P

Leslie=An adult Woman, and self-possesed in her womanhood and sexuality, which Bianca's not had since Lena. Go. Ahead. On. I just never really got that from Frankie or Maggie which worked better for me for teenage stories.

So, bring on the fine champagne because Binky's on the prowl.

And yes, TPTB still suck for using Bianca's character once again to try and dig their asses out of the holes they dug themselves...for no apparently logical reason.

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