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Anytime women want to talk about equal pay tell them the solution can be found in binders.....binders full of women sounds like a different version of a mansion full of women...just search and you'll come up with Mitt Romney inspired sites and things including this: http://bindersfullofwomen.tumblr.com/

So I guess the line of attack about Barack Obama being a coward because Hilary Clinton took responsibility for the attack in Libya is now put to rest. That "coward" said it rested on him. I'm guessing that admission must burn a little....or a lot. Mitt Romney is a piece of work....labeling China a currency manipulator is supposed to fix what now? They need to splash a big ad all over the place about how those Sensata employees lost their jobs to Chinese workers who earn a whopping 90 cents/hour contributing to Mitt Romney's $8 million in investment in Bain. I could have sworn he was standing there lying again and he's got offshore accounts. People are so gullible. Uhm no, he's not the lesser of two evils...not even next to Paul Ryan. Whatever God they worship must be pretty mean, callous, money hungry and extremely discriminatory. This country needs a viable third party.

One of the things I do find offensive is the suggestion that single mothers raise criminals or are responsible for gun toting criminals. So I'm supposed to believe that two parents raise model children. What about kids that end up in single parent homes due to the death of a parent or children of divorced parents? Sure it's ideal to grow up with a mother and father but the idea that one parent causes a disastrous life really needs to come to a halt. I lost track of what Mitt Romney was saying when he brought that up and I'm not picking on him because I know that he's not the only one promoting that. He also lost me on immigration. He said something about providing children born here to immigrants a pathway to citizenship....me: huh? And I didn't get how you earn a green card by doing well in school. So he couldn't stick to saying something about himself that would help him. Martha Raddatz has been the best moderator so far. Candy Crowley gets major points for the on the spot fact check. And I don't care what anybody says--Mitt Romney was disrespectful to Candy Crowley. I bet Mike Huckabee won't acknowledge that though but he saw fit to make Joe Biden out to be some sort of drunk.

There were a couple of stupid things that Mitt Romney did that brought attention to himself. I can't remember the first one but the fact that he brought up the idea of caring for the 100% opened a door he should have left closed. And that badgering didn't do him any good either because instead of looking tough, he came across as a bully. In fact, he mainly came across as "this is my world and I'm letting you live in it." Good for Barack Obama calling what Mitt Romney said "offensive." What an idiotic thing for Mitt Romney to do....self inflicted wound.

It's too bad that Barack Obama didn't point out the lies as they were coming out of Mitt Romney's mouth. It's got to be difficult to heal any sort of divide when you have people who made it their mission to oppose you before you even took office. I don't know how many people can forge a partnership with themselves. Mitch McConnell and John Boehner are some special patriots indeed. Of all the things listed the public financing pledge is problematic.....too much money is spent on Presidential campaigns. One candidate shouldn't be at a disadvantage though so this spending is only going to get worse as time goes on.

Gee. I almost forgot that the Republicans have become the best friends of Israel.

Who is that Republican surrogate Jason Thompson ginning up the crowd by saying it's time to send Barack Obama back to Kenya? I thought I heard that Congress (including Paul Ryan) voted for a $300 million reduction which affected embassy security so the finger pointing needs to stop. Did American foreign policy lead to the death of Muammar Gaddafi?

I am so very glad that I don't dabble in the utter ridiculousness of partisan politics otherwise I would be still waiting for George W. Bush to explain the whole fraudulent WMD rationale for all those lives being taken....not lost....taken for no real reason.....or is there a story about gaining control of foreign oil supplies that I blinked and miss?

I try not to dabble in the hypothetical that much because you cannot go back and change things. You can only hope to learn and avoid repeating the same mistakes. I don't see what could have been done to prevent what happened short of knowing it was going to happen, and stopping it. More security isn't a guarantee of anything so to suggest that this was the key to preventing the attacks seems a bit careless. At best, one can say that it might have and might is not the same as absolutely would have. If I lived in Darrell Issa's district I would never vote for him. He's an example to me of tax dollars at waste. I don't think his last inquiry turned out to be anything but some political stunt but he's determined to keep trying until he thinks he's gotten somewhere and the only somewhere he needs to get is out of political office.

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What I've seen is that he threatens to reveal something and when the time comes he never does so I don't see how that becomes the media glossing over anything. It's him huffing and puffing smoke with no fire. Do you seriously believe if he had anything at all that Fox wouldn't have been all over it like a wrinkled woman in a mud bath if you told her it was the fountain of youth? I agree with you that it's racism but so what???? We're not talking about a common occurrence where for years black Americans have had that option are we? If we were then the whole it's racist thing would be extremely significant because you'd be talking about a pattern. You're talking about one single instance and you cannot even confirm that any of these people would vote for Barack Obama if he were a Republican because they probably haven't even considered that themselves, and that would go a longer way to proving any sort of racism. You don't need to make any sort of declaration about wanting a President who looked like YOU (personally I find the whole looked like me phrase stupid. My own brother doesn't even look like me and I'm into the literal not the race makes everyone the same person with the same looks....the more I repeat this stuff--the more ridiculous it sounds to me), 2008 was the first time in your entire life that you were presented with a real option of voting for someone who does not look white. So please......once versus how many times and you really want a make a big deal out of whatever black voters who made some racial solidarity declaration as if this is having the greatest impact in the America's history of race relations. To be clear, this is me trivializing it. Doesn't everyone have some color?.....that's just my opinion of course. What about if a white man wants to be with a black woman and his white friends say "ewwww" because black women cannot possibly be attractive? Yet this thing between black women and white men happens and black men seem to be infinitely more annoyed by it than some of those racist black women mad about black men with white women (to which I would say why fret over a man who doesn't want you anyway...because I'm practical like that). The way I hear it is that black men think it's the ultimate betrayal because it's supposed to be like sleeping with a slave master which must mean that white women never owned slaves. Anyway, I shouldn't try to travel inside the minds of the ignorant because I might get lost. So what's a biracial romance anyway? Is that when two biracial people get together? I am just kidding because I know you meant interracial. About that.... I didn't realize when I picked the name Johnny that it was a Don Henley song so if you just want to discuss songs well.... I think you'll remember all on your own though.

My confession for the day is that I do a terrible disservice in posting by not reading/proofing to catch the unintelligible things with which I come up. Apparently it all sounds great in my mind though... Anyway, I'm sorry.

Some more: <iframe width="400" height="100" style="position: relative; display: block; width: 400px; height: 100px;" src="http://bandcamp.com/EmbeddedPlayer/v=2/track=1154567704/size=venti/bgcol=FFFFFF/linkcol=4285BB/" allowtransparency="true" frameborder="0"><a href="http://tobylightman.bandcamp.com/track/coming-back-in">Coming Back In by Toby Lightman</a></iframe> <iframe width="400" height="100" style="position: relative; display: block; width: 400px; height: 100px;" src="http://bandcamp.com/EmbeddedPlayer/v=2/track=2160990646/size=venti/bgcol=FFFFFF/linkcol=4285BB/" allowtransparency="true" frameborder="0"><a href="http://tobylightman.bandcamp.com/track/devils-and-angels">Devils and Angels by Toby Lightman</a></iframe>' and a slightly different version of one of my favorites: <iframe width="400" height="100" style="position: relative; display: block; width: 400px; height: 100px;" src="http://bandcamp.com/EmbeddedPlayer/v=2/track=2175176370/size=venti/bgcol=FFFFFF/linkcol=4285BB/" allowtransparency="true" frameborder="0"><a href="http://tobylightman.bandcamp.com/track/frightened">Frightened by Toby Lightman</a></iframe> <iframe width="400" height="100" style="position: relative; display: block; width: 400px; height: 100px;" src="http://bandcamp.com/EmbeddedPlayer/v=2/track=2896731770/size=venti/bgcol=FFFFFF/linkcol=4285BB/" allowtransparency="true" frameborder="0"><a href="http://tobylightman.bandcamp.com/track/front-row">Front Row by Toby Lightman</a></iframe>

Toby Lightman: <iframe width="400" height="100" style="position: relative; display: block; width: 400px; height: 100px;" src="http://bandcamp.com/EmbeddedPlayer/v=2/track=2522406346/size=venti/bgcol=FFFFFF/linkcol=4285BB/" allowtransparency="true" frameborder="0"><a href="http://tobylightman.bandcamp.com/track/milk-and-honey">Milk and Honey by Toby Lightman</a></iframe> <iframe width="400" height="100" style="position: relative; display: block; width: 400px; height: 100px;" src="http://bandcamp.com/EmbeddedPlayer/v=2/track=1891661278/size=venti/bgcol=FFFFFF/linkcol=4285BB/" allowtransparency="true" frameborder="0"><a href="http://tobylightman.bandcamp.com/track/h-e-l-l-o">H-E-L-L-O by Girl Named Toby</a></iframe> <iframe width="300" height="100" style="position: relative; display: block; width: 300px; height: 100px;" src="http://bandcamp.com/EmbeddedPlayer/v=2/track=2708752085/size=grande/bgcol=FFFFFF/linkcol=4285BB/" allowtransparency="true" frameborder="0"><a href="http://tobylightman.bandcamp.com/track/holding-a-heart">Holding a Heart by Girl Named Toby</a></iframe> <iframe width="400" height="100" style="position: relative; display: block; width: 400px; height: 100px;" src="http://bandcamp.com/EmbeddedPlayer/v=2/track=1507398577/size=venti/bgcol=FFFFFF/linkcol=4285BB/" allowtransparency="true" frameborder="0"><a href="http://tobylightman.bandcamp.com/track/all-this-silence">All This Silence by Girl Named Toby</a></iframe>

My comment is about the part I emphasized in bold. If a person wants to reach a goal badly enough then he/she will go after it no matter what obstacles are placed in the way and no matter who says "no." Barack Obama knew he was headed down rough roads and he pursued the Presidency anyway and that's the difference between a determined person and a person looking for a reason to fail. Look at all the reasons given today for why Johnny cannot read (short of a real physical or mental disability): the textbooks in his school are old, outdated, torn, etc. he speaks a special language/dialect and should have an ESL class like non-English speaking immigrants he doesn't have any teachers that look like him America's slave history has placed him on unequal footing Frederick Douglas is considered one of this nation's great orators and writers and he was actually a slave....so when a nation becomes adept and providing built in excuses for failure before a child even begins this glass ceiling almost becomes the very least of them. Just imagine if Barack Obama had grown up in one of those households in this country where the parents tell the children all the things they cannot do because they are black growing up in a country full of people who are going to hold them back because they are black. The harm being done to children comes from within and without. One day people will be honest about that and recognize how much damage has been done. Whenever we see images of what hunger and poverty look like, they tend to be photos of poor starving children from the African continent. Americans are generally conditioned to feel superior to a host of Africans based on how much better off Americans are in goods, etc. Some of them come over here and also go to European nations to attend universities and turn out to be superior students to the home grown and excel academically beyond the nationals. So if nobody ever tells you that your skin had handicapped you, you're supposed to be stupid, and you can't do a multitude of things because of it the n you just might be able to accomplish bigger things than being a rapper, singer, or super athlete which is great for those who are, but should never be presented as being that's all there is....I'm just saying.

Race is a way of thinking, imo. Is it racist to vote for someone based on skin color? Yes. I don't even know how that's debatable. I understand that in America there are a bunch of different exceptions made for black people based on the nation's history but exceptions don't change the facts. The problem is these discussions where it's pointed out that black people are being racist for voting for Barack Obama without acknowledging that there are racist white people voting against Barack Obama because he's black. Since this is the first major party non-white candidate that people have had an option of voting for then these are pretty exceptional circumstances so I don't even know why anyone would waste time complaining about it. Why not question the poor people who vote against their interests when they vote Republican merely because of xenophobia and that it's been drilled into their heads by Republican candidates that the Democrats just want to give free money (welfare) to lazy black people who don't want to work? Don't even bother pointing out that there are lazy black people who don't want to work as if they make up the majority of welfare recipients. The majority of welfare recipients are white and let's not pretend that all of them are hardworking people down on their luck. Those people aren't voting on any substantive issues either and they certainly aren't voting to benefit themselves. So the fingers can be pointed in all directions. And I'm just going to guess that all this nonsense regarding liberal and conservative Christianity is strictly some American insanity. There's only one type of Christian and that's one that follows the Bible or at least tries to. Everyone else are wolves in sheep's clothing.

There are whole lot of things going on in this thread on which I could try to comment but I will just start here because this is part of an argument which is seemingly refuting a racism claim and I don't see how it refutes anything. The "birther" activity is racist pure and simple. There is no need to pretend otherwise. And to use the argument that people have not brought up his race is weak because it assumes that racists are all overtly racist and not covertly racist. If racists all wandered around out and proud in the open, how many of them would still be as successful as they are being covertly racist in this politically correct environment? The reason I selected the above quote is because it exemplifies the kind of reaction to "birther" knowledge that I cannot even believe that an argument against racism is that people would be honest about it. My head might fall off if I started shaking it over that.leaves the door wide open by basically claiming without overtly doing so, that Barack Obama just might be a citizen of some other country and just might not have been born here. Now I don't know if you would say the same things about all the previous Presidents and Presidential candidates so I'm not going to speculate on your feelings or intent but generally when this is said, it has been phrased that way so that the speaker can say he/she didn't say Barack Obama was not born in America. But the flip side is that he/she didn't say he was. How do I know where any of them were born other than they said they were born in whatever state? I've never seen any of them provide or be asked to provide evidence of their birthplace until Barack Obama was. John McCain was born in a territory that's no longer but is that a big deal? No. An annexed state is a big deal though because of what Barack Obama looks like and no other reason. It's not even debatable. His whole name is used by certain Republicans who want to emphasize how foreign and Muslim he is. Unless Fox News uses his middle name, I haven't heard media refer to him by his whole name. I'm pretty sure that when Pat Robertson was still on MSNBC, he would say his whole name and explain how foreign and exotic Barack Obama is.

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If I had to choose between the Democrats and the Republicans, it would be like choosing between boneless buffalo wings and bone in wings. There's not a whole lot of difference to me on the issues of racism and racialism between covertly and overtly. Most times I think it's better to know what someone really thinks of you than it is to have them pretend to like you to your face. Democrats have said some things that have gotten completely swept under the rug because they're Democrats. Some of those things, such as Joe Biden's "clean" comment, may not have been said with any malicious intent but they still indicate a particular way of thinking. The more I listen to some of those MSNBC show hosts (including some of the former ones), the more keenly aware I become of how much of a charitable project they see black Americans as. There's this air about them in portraying Democrats as the party who cares about all these minorities who just aren't at the level of intelligence, etc., as they all are. People are so enamored of Bill Clinton. The economy was great when he was President which is the key to greatness. He approved at least four bills/plicies that would have caused a lot of whining had they been approved by a Republican President: DADT, Three Strikes legislation, Prison, Welfare Reform Act, and Prison Litigation Reform Act. The first one would have been seen as homophobic and people can say it was better than nothing but why not just go all the way? The last three would have been called racist and probably have been called racist by those who have no idea that they came under Bill Clinton. And I'm one to run this right into the ground but Diane Sawyer was able to find Osama Bin Laden in the dessert somewhere for an ABC News or maybe it was 20/20 interview after the first bombing of the World Trade Center prior to 9/11, yet Bill Clinton couldn't. I already had the Gennifer Flowers lie against him and it's not that I cared about his personal life at all but what he said about her to save his Presidential bid was totatlly unnecessary. So I don't worship at the altar of Bill Clinton. Nor do I think that the fact that they can use perfume to cover up some of their stench makes them smell that much better than the Republicans. Where the Democrats hae the Republicans at an advantage is that they seem overall to be more genuine about their concern for the people in this country and even abroad, and they aren't overtly antagonistic about diversity and so are able to attract more diverse people to their party. A big plus is that they don't seem to have as many overtly insane party leaders as do the Republicans who have become increasingly scary in that regard.

MSNBC's group bring that sort of thing up on seemingly regular basis along with some of the Current TV crowd. Maybe they all just feel compelled to make excuses for whatever shortcomings they perceive in Barack Obama, or his not being the version they want . Chris Matthews has that version thing real bad. I don't suppose Barack Obama will be that weak again. The bar for him is so low now that if he keeps his head up for most of the debate, he will have exceeded it.

I hear these criticisms of Barack Obama and I don't know whether certain liberals in the media are right or wrong when they say that he avoids looking angry because he's trying not to fit some racial stereotype of the "angry black man." Maybe it's not in his character but if he really does minimize his passion for the reasons they believe then that's utterly ridiculous. I cannot imagine that any display of anger is going to make him come across as frightening and scary. And even if that were the case....so what? Ignorant people aren't going to be any less ignorant because you go out of your way to avoid whatever stereotypes their puny brains have in them.

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I swear it's like walking around and being convinced that I am stuck in an alternate universe and everyone has gone insane. No one should take CNN's 31 person Focus Group seriously. As soon as Erin Burnett reported their results--I could see what was wrong with government. We just all need to be honest that there are far too many stupid people out there running things and it' not just my opinion.....it's a fact.

So a portion of the media is calling the debate a draw. It seems to me that they are stuck on Joe Biden's facial expressions for which they gave him deductions in "style points." All the Independents who see things anywhere close to me would have gotten a kick out of that because I tried to keep myself from laughing watching the lies coming out of that puppet head. And when he was about to claim that he would bring honesty......

That just reminded me about the sad lot representing California--from both parties.