Paul Raven

Some more suggestions Leon Janney Nancy Barrett Paul Tulley Mary Frann Robert Vaughn Floy Dean

Colby...one of Y&R's many Michael's...following Scott and preceding Baldwin. No money around today for that sort of supporting character.

Glad to see Hoppers return! Funny how Breon Gorman played 2 characters with near identical names - Ellen Snow/Allison Snowden re Helen Wagner..Nancy appeared on location at the Tom/Margo wedding in 82(?) always found it odd that she appeared with little fanfare.

Some stuff from Marland's bible My intention with Clem's introduction (along with using his presence to great advantage in Lily's story) was to introduce a struggling, lower income family of Holdens as a much needed contrast to the upper middle class family units that now dominate the tapestry of ATWT. Since we must assume that the more rural areas that surround Oakdale would certainly include farms and their farmers (and since to my knowledge there's no such family existing on other daytime dramas), I feel the contribution such a family might make to the overall canvas of our series, would be invaluable. In my final notes you will see the list of existing characters I would suggest writing out and my reasons for their exodus. This would afford us the opportunity (and budget) to bring in the Holdens and the added richness to existing storylines I see them contributing strongly to. I don't suggest we suddenly flood the screen with several new characters, but rather introduce them as needed, always keeping other family members and close friends alive off screen as possible antagonists or protagonists for future story complications. In looking carefully at the Hughes family unit, Lisa, Brian, Barbara, certainly Lucinda and her brood, there seems to be no representation of the "have nots" in our society who want the comfort and financial ease that is represented by our more affluent, successful characters. Clem of course is one of those "have nots" who can make a dramatic and sexy contribution to the Lily/Dusty storyline, but I feel the gradual introduction of other members of the Holden clan are necessary in time to allow us to understand Clem better by learning more of his background. I urge your consideration of this point, believing it would add realism to the series and broaden its audience appeal.)

Interview with Bill Bell by David Church Is He Giving Up THE YOUNG AND THE RESTLESS? Did BOLD AND BEAUTIFUL Dump CAPITOL? Daytime's Head Honcho Pleads Not Guilty! The executive producer, head writer and co-creator of THE YOUNG AND THE RESTLESS is duplicating those chores on CBSs new daytime drama, THE BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL. Bill Bell took a break from the thousand-and-one details that are involved in launching a new show to respond to the rumors (pro and con) about his two soaps. Background: Bell got his start in show business at a Chicago radio station. In 1957 he hooked up with Irna Phillips and started writing the then-fifteen-minute-long GUIDING LIGHT. After a year of GL, he moved to AS THE WORLD TURNS, where he stayed for ten years. Then came the chance to serve as a head writer, for the then-ailing DAYS OF OUR LIVES. D.C.: What made you break away to become head writer for DAYS OF OUR LIVES? B.B.: It was a challenge, I think. When DAYS started, it wasn't doing very well at all. It was hard to leave Irna and ATWT, not just because of the camaraderie, but because those were the days when we'd have a 64 share and DAYS was just languishing. I was so nervous, I lost 10 pounds in the first week. D.C.: Why so nervous? B.B.: It's one thing to collaborate and another thing to be out on your own suddenly. It's scary and you second-guess yourself. Not that I've ever stopped second-guessing myself. I don't think it's something you outgrow. In any event, within two-and-a-half years, DAYS was the number one show in all of daytime. We replaced three producers along the way, did some recasting, and brought in some new, excellent actors like Susan Flannery, who's now a part of THE BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL. D.C.: She's a wonderful actress . . . an underrated actress. B.B.: She's fabulous. When I met Susan for drinks recently to talk about the character of Stephanie Forrester, I tried to remember when I'd last seen her. I realized it was when that picture was taken. (He points to a picture above his credenza. a shot of some of the mid-seventies DAYS cast framed by the twin towers of New York's World Trade Center.) It was at the Emmy Awards in 1975. The awards were held on this enormous ship that sailed around Manhattan. Susan had just won the Best Actress award and she asked me if she could have a few days off to do a part in The Towering Inferno. She went right around and won a Golden Globe for that. She was part of the magic of those early days on DAYS. Bill and Susan Hayes,Ed Mallory - a tremendous character - those were wonderful days. And then Y&R came along and I've enjoyed fourteen equally terrific years on this show. D.C.: Will you be transferring from Y&R to THE BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL? B.B.: I'll do everything I've been doing on Y&R. I'll just assume additional duties on THE BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL. D.C.: How can you do that, Bill? I'd imagine the tension, the sheer amount of work is extraordinary. B.B.: I've got a terrific team, a core of people who've worked together for many years now. We're a well-oiled machine. Granted, I don't do much of the actual writing on Y&R. I'll occasionally dictate a few key lines for a scene and I'm always very involved with the story. It'll be somewhat different on THE BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL. I'm doing detailed outlines for each episode and the writers take it from there. D.C.: How did THE BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL come about? B.B.: It started about ten years ago when Y&R took off. CBS wanted another show and I wasn't ready to do another show then. About five years ago I intimated that I might be ready but then pulled back, and that ultimately led to CBS putting CAPITOL on the air. May I digress for a moment? D.C.: Sure. B.B.: I don't want people ever to think that we're replacing CAPITOL. I know that feeling is out there, but the point is we had a commitment for a show a year ago. We were going to go on and, some show - who knew which one? - would go off. It could have been any show, it wasn't predetermined. It just happened to be CAPITOL. And we were committed a year before CAPITOL went off, we just kept pushing back the day. I was supposed to be on the air a year ago September, but we wouldn't have been ready then, so we went to January and, for a number of reasons, the network preferred to go with a March debut. What's important is that now we're on and I don't want to inspire a negative attitude as the guy who dumped CAPITOL. Not guilty. No connection. A lot of people liked CAPITOL and, I might add, it was a very good show. But it's no secret that the biggest problem John had with that show was the writing. Ultimately, I guess that was the thing that hurt the show to the extent that it had to be removed. D.C.: Tell me about the cast of THE BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL. B.B.: I was going to go for all new faces, and we've got some exciting new actors. Clayton Norcross, Ron Moss. . .both very handsome guys. Katherine Kelly Lang. . .Carrie Mitchum. . .but I discovered that I couldn't find the right new people to play all of the roles. Then I started to look back. Jim Storm - he was on Y&R for a while, he'd be perfect for William Spencer. The same with Lauren Koslow, she'd been on Y&R and now she'd be just right for Margo Lynley. Of course, the central character, the one the other characters revolve around, is the most important because the balance of the show leads from the center. I called John McCook. I asked him to come to the office, no so much out of nostalgia but because I wanted to see what he looked like. He looked terrific. I told him I was coming up with a new show and I'd like him to think about it. He said he'd do just that and we agreed to get together after the first of the year. Frankly, John was a little younger than what I was thinking of for the role of Eric Forrester, but he's such strong support, such a good leader among actors that by Christmas I knew I wanted him for the role. D.C.: Carrie Mitchum, who's the granddaughter of Robert Mitchum, and John Wayne's son, Ethan Wayne, are on the show. This begs the question, were they hired for sheer acting ability or for a sort of second-generation glamour/publicity angle? B.B.: I asked myself the same question. When we read these young people, I backed up and said, Whoa, are we casting them because of their name or their talent? If you go with the name, in the long run it hurts you and it hurts the show. When you're starting a new show, you've got to go with what works, not with what looks good. I'll admit, there's probably more media attention around these kids than would be normal because of their background, but they have real talent. You'll see it for yourself. D.C.: Is there anyone in the cast, anyone that your practiced eye tells you is going to break away and really fly with this show? B.B.: (a diplomatic pause) Hard to say. There are a few that might do it, but frankly it wouldn't be too gentlemanly for me to make a guess. Let's just say that I hope they are all successful. D.C.: Will you be using known designers for the show, which is centered in the fashion industry? B.B.: We have a fashion consultant who will determine what's used. It will be a mix, it will be exciting and, yes, we will be using known designers. I'm hoping that THE BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL will have a different look for the show. (a secretive chuckle) And we've got some surprises of our own. D.C.: In the mood to share any? B.B.: (shaking his head) That's one thing I've learned in daytime. The only good surprise is the one worth keeping.

The frustrating thing is that Search, despite its years on the air and many cast changes still had a solid core to build on: Stu/Jo patriach/matriach Stu's daughter Janet ,maybe a recast recurring character Janet's children Liza, Garry and Danny (the latter two with much story potential) Jo's daughter Patti (divorced or widowed) Patti's children Tracey and Chris (sorased to teens) Jo's ward Bruce and his daughter Tori Sunny and her sister Laine (mother of Gary Walton's son) Throw in a few other characters and away you go...

Variety reported in Sept 65 that with The Doctors still failing to make the daytime to 20 despite changes in the format,NBC was interested in the Roy Winsor soap 'Masterton's Valley' written by Robert J Shaw. Could this have been another title for 'The Outsider' or the title for the second proposal you mentioned?

This is amazing stuff. Thank you so much for posting. I'm going to have to read over it a few times to take it all in. Imagine if more stuff like this was around eg The Ralph Ellis/SFT archives. Janice Wylie was the murdered daughter of Max Wylie, who wrote Secret Storm in the 50's so was probably well known to many associated with the show. Guess that's why Roy Winsor didn't want that name used.

This from a SOW article in a Sept 96 article re 13 Bourbon St More than 200 eager young actresses showed up at an open casting call in Nth Hollywood Calif Sept 3 in hopes of landing the contract role of Marigold Katrina Jorgensohn on Fox's latenight serial 13 Bourbon St. MK is a would be singer who arrives in New Orleans from a small town in Indiana. During a break in the auditions, the show's casting director. Meg Simon, told SOW, "I'm looking for a girl who is very joyful, a positive person with a great singing voice. She should be pretty in a fresh, clean-cut kind of way." The first major hurdle for the aspirants (who included a number of SAG members) was to sing eight bars of a rock standard."If they can't sing,I'm not doing anymore with them", says Simon,who cast Ryan's Hope for two years in the early 80's. However,she amended that statement with. "It's conceivable that I may see someone who's right for another role I'm casting, in which case I'll hold on to their resume and call them back at another time". The shows exec producer, Linda Gottlieb,did not attend the auditions. At this point, Simon says she has cast five* of the 21 principal roles. Casting will be announced when all of the principal roles are filled. Production commences in New York in November;the series is set to debut January 1997 *Apparently John Beck and Lonette McKee had been cast

Broadcasting magazine May 1999 USA has plans for a half - hour serial called The Avenue, slated to debut first quarter 2,000. It will likely air sometime between 5 p.m. and 8 p.m. "This is a decidedly different form for early fringe, but I think there is an appetite for a dramatically compelling serial in time periods where the diet is local news, game shows, and reality strips. In foreign countries like Australia and England this genre has been quite successful," says Stephen Chao, president of programming and marketing, USA Networks.

Wendy hangs around for a while after Scott departs (she is recast) Eleanor is vulnerable to Lew Dancy's charms as is Doreen Aldrich. Noticed in the bed scenes b/w Mike and Toni that Armand Assante was showing off shoulder and above the ass hair, no way would that be happening with today's leading men.

Any appearance by Constance Ford gave off lesbian vibes...

Pat Falken Smith commented re Gloria that Ms Monty criticized every outline and she (PFS) had enough of feeling like a failure.

Dec 1976 For the past year rumors about homosexual characters characters on soaps have been making the -rounds. According to one producer, gays will never be portrayed portrayed on afternoon television. "Love of Life's" Tom de Velliers insists: "Daytime television is a very special medium. It would be impossible to have a homosexual story line. We have the time to get into some very heavy love scenes. How could we possibly present a loving gay couple and not show them loving? "If we did present an intimate love scene between the same sex, I wouldn't want to be in the office when the phone started ringing." When Tom was associated with the now-defunct, "Love Is a Many Splendored Thing," a gay story line was hinted. "We considered probing the situation with the Betsey Chernak character. We just got into the story line when we decided we better get out," said Tom. '

1979 IN A SURPRISING MOVE, ABC announced that it will replace "General Hospital" headwriter Doug Marland with Pat Falken-Smith Falken-Smith Falken-Smith beginning Aug. 6. It's surprising because headwriters are usually replaced only when a show's ratings are in trouble, and "GH" has enjoyed top-ranking top-ranking top-ranking status since Marland began scripting the show two years ago. Marland chose to bow out when California-based California-based California-based "GH" wanted him to move there from his Connecticut home. Producer Gloria Monty, apparently, wants to be in closer contact with her headwriter, and Ms. Falken-Smith, Falken-Smith, Falken-Smith, who was the headwriter of "Days of Our Lives" a couple of years ago, lives practically next door to the "GH" studio.

AC Weary Breon Gorman Frances Reid Helen Wagner Nicholas Surovy Peter White Alice Haining Robert Newman

Re Martin e Brooks as Darren Match. I thought Darren was MJ's brother played by Arthur Brooks? Or have I got it wrong?

Jada Rowland (Amy) with the Jed Allan version of Paul Britton

Althea and Robin (jenny Wright)

There were 4 Brians in 4 years Paul Joynt Larry Joshua Gene Peitragallo Jay Acavone Didn't Tomothy Patrick Murphy's Spence character also pretend to be Brian?

Interesting re Celeste. I recall she played a 'bag lady' named Clara?

French Fan's synopses have Marland taking over in Sept 85. It seems the Kim secret admirer story was his first new plot.

Seeing that pic of Cole has me thinking he could come back. Maybe Cole could have played the JT abuse storyline.He did have a crazy mom...

Writers sometimes use names special to them ...Bill Bell in particular was known for this. Maybe there was a special Caroline in Marland's life? I know his mother's name was Beatrice and he used that name at AYWT, GL, GH and AW. Were there any Bea's/Beatrice at Loving or TD?