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Seeing Pepsi get upset at the bottle search makes me dislike Gizelle even more than I already do. Gizelle is vaunted for her producing skills, but IMO she is so lazy. She never thinks through the ramifications of her schemes -- just the opening headline. Once they turn up nothing in the HW's quarters, where to next? Suspicion inevitably will turn on the staff, all of whom work incredibly long hours, cheerfully catering to these spoiled women, for a relative pittance. What if Pepsi or someone else got fired for what we all know is a Gizelle SL stunt? Intruding on the women's private rooms to search them is also a bully move. I'm glad Candiace refused to have her room searched like a common criminal. If I'd been Candiace, I would have insisted Giz's room be searched first. So it's clearly Gizelle & Porsha vs Candiace & Leah. Both groups have got the other pegged. Porsha's ditzy act IS fake. Gizelle WILL use anything against you. Leah IS an attention-seeking, constantly complaining, drama queen. Candiace is verbally abusive (with no sense of humor about herself -- i added that last part). Leah not wearing any underwear while on her period + diarrhea is beyond gross. I'd be diapered like a Kardashian. Yes, heat and diarrhea are dehydrating. This is why electrolyte drinks and Imodium were invented. I can't even buy that fainting spell in the store. Heather is completely disingenuous. OTOH I really enjoy Alexia and Marysol here, like some of you. And I nearly warmed to Whitney this episode.

Joanna became the focus in S2 and S3 because she was a 'name' prior to RHOM as a cheesecake model for men's 'lifestyle' magazines like Maxim (remember those?). I felt the show focused a little too much on Joanna's scripted bust-ups with Romain, and was more interested by Lea, Adriana, Alexia, Marysol, Karent, etc., just my personal opinion. Joanna came across mean and always complaining. On re-watches of OG RHOM, I appreciate more what she brought to the franchise (personal drama; friendships with Karent and Lisa), but she was never a fascinating HW to me. I wasn't intrigued by her. She could still potentially bring some drama to the RHOM reboot though -- I just don't want her to dominate 60% of the screen time like she did before. Interesting that Budget Kardashian was the 'name' used for promoting the RHOM reboot and she too leaves me kind of cold. She's got a place in the show, of course, and overall the current RHOM is balanced nicely between all the women. It feels like an ensemble cast.

Charlotte Ross! Now there's a blast from the past. Wonder if Charles Shaughnessy and Patsy Pease would show up in guest spots, although that might break Days' teeny budget.

RHOM's final reunion episode got overshadowed by the arrival of RHUGT 3, but it surprisingly ended on a non-toxic note. It felt like there was room for forgiveness between Las Cubanas and Adriana, even though I'm not sure Adriana believes their friendship can be repaired to what it was. Thankfully, Larsa kept largely mute. She works in small doses only. The RHOM speculation is now saying that Joanna Krupa is back for S6. I thought she was a limp, narcissist bore so I'm not feeling this rumor, lol. RHUGT 3: Gizelle had the nerve to complain about Candiace getting angry about the Chris accusation? Girl, bye. It's not about whether the accusation involved sexual assault, it was about you lying on national TV and trying to destroy a man's personal reputation for no reason other than ratings! She reallyihas little redeeming qualities, and Porsha sounded like a fool defending her. "You were the victim!" Bad Weather are getting on everyone's nerves bringing this nothingburher SL over from SLC. It is fake and everybody knows it.

Whitney and Heather both did great with their shots -- as much as it pains me to say that -- to the point where I am convinced they must have grown up watching Daytime. Whitney was very MTS; Heather was giving me Nina Arvesen (Cassandra Rawlins). Candiace, Marysol and Alexia also nailed it. Gizelle's was giving "I wasn't allowed to watch soap operas growing up."

Do you guys think this mini-promo was paid for and done by the RHOA themselves as opposed to lazy-ass Bravo? It is quite unusual and doesn't conform to Bravo's usual template. Did I just have a brain freeze? I don't even remember Jill popping up on RHOM this past season! I'm wondering whether Jill burned her bridge with Bravo (yet again) after demanding equal paychecks. NYC and Miami are almost twin cities at this point with the amount of RHONY who live there for extended periods. Luann, Ramona, Jill, Tinsley & Dale. Like I said before, RHOPalmBeach is begging to be made with the OG RHONYs. Bethenny grew up in Miami, of course. And I almost forgot Boca's 'queen', Soggy Flicker. Not just Y&R, but Y&R opening circa 1988. Candiace was channeling Victor, Marysol was John Abbott toasting the audience, and Alexia was doing a Cricket-like head-tilt.

That may say Days of our Wives, but this is a Y&R opening in all but name! And better than the current one. Whitney, Alexia, Heather, Marysol and Candiace nailed their shots. I bet those five grew up watching Daytime. Or Univision.

One of the best and most long-awaited takedowns ever. Finally, after 10 years, Kim couldn't slither out of accountability. And it unified Nene and Kenya which was amazing in of itself

IF ONLY Bravo could have filmed Jill tiptoing to Ramona's door with a doctor's stethoscope to listen in on Ramona's many dates. Please also note that everything has been moved out of the apartment in that shot -- except for a prominently-arranged Zarin Fabrics Rug (c). Hustle hustle! Seriously, this should have had Peacock's careful touch, and I'm lowkey aggrieved that Jill made it an 'all or nothing' situation. 😥 Maybe, after the success of RHOM and RHUGT 3, it will be back on the negotiating table next year.

OK, RHOA looks really GOOD. Everyone looks gorgeous, and they packed a lot of juice into 3 FULL MINUTES of trailer! I have thoughts (Marlo still Fake AF, Kenya still Grumpy AF) but overall the show seems to be generating a momentum we haven't seen in a while. It seems determined to give us juicy stuff this year -- hence the renewed focus on Drew (which maybe why the trailer was delayed, so that Bravo could splice in the Drew Divorce Drama). Kim is back because Bravo is not confident that the main cast has fully gelled TBH. So they're throwing Penniless Kim in there, they're throwing Cynthia in there, they'd throw Porsha in there if they could.

I don't have any tea. Just from his statement "I am going to fight for her....our love is strong enough to get to the other side" -- the other side of what? is where my mind went.

Jill Zarin has let go of her rental in Ramona's building on the Upper East Side. Looks like she'll be spending more time in FLA. Her 'Goodbye NYC' makes me feel like it's a wider Goodbye to the OG RHONY 😪 Hmm. 🤔 Sounds like he got caught doing something he wasn't supposed to do.

The filming with Kim doesn't seem to be anything more than a one-off guest-spot -- at least for now. Although, given the clamoring to bring Kim back in recent times, anything could happen, and BH is down a Richards sister (Kathy, where are you). Camille, Cynthia and Denise's off-screen voice (that's all you saw of her on social media) at Kyle's party seemed to be blink-and-you'll-miss-em guest spots. I honestly doubt any of these ladies will feature beyond a name-check, although I am down to see Camille and Denise cheers-ing each other now that Rinna ain't around. I didn't understand why Denise didn't roll with it, like "Yeah, and?" Possibly because the husband wasn't in on it, and possibly because Brandi made out that she was somehow tricked into sex? Anyway, that season was draining and, while I hated the Coven for targeting Denise incessantly, I don't think Denise should return full-time -- for the reasons you state. And also because I don't believe she is that dynamic a personality. Rimmers have been saying that loudly, but you know what? They are probably bots paid for by Diana. I will happily trade that toxic, soulless vampire for something lighter, fluffier, more glamorous, and with returning guest spots every episode. If Kyle can shoehorn her personal drone Terry into every season, I can damn well have two minutes of Camille, Denise and Garcelle cackling "Ding dong the witch is gone" over a couple of Chateau Margauxs. Re: RHUGT3 -- I never properly appreciated what a masterful operator Porsha became until she left RHOA. She knew when to be light and sweet, and when to go in for an incisive burn. How far she has come from her early ATL seasons! On RHUGT she has expertly kept the momentum moving from morning til night while not breaking a sweat. She has Pepsi curled around her little finger, too. Gizelle seriously needs to sit back, marvel, watch and learn, cuz this is how you do it.

It's more than just word -- Kim was filmed by Bravo with Kyle and Dorit on a mountain walk (taking us back to old school BH: The Yolanda and Brandi Years). Prior to that, Kyle had a dinner party (again, filmed by Bravo) and Denise, Cynthia and Camille were all invited. Who knows whether they will appear when it airs, but I hope they will. Now that Rinna is gone, ex-HWs feel like it's safe to participate again. I'm ready for some call-back to earlier seasons. Not that I followed her relationship closely, but Eva seemed very much in love with her husband and happy with her family life. He even formally adopted her eldest daughter. So this is a surprise, to say the least.

100% this. He spoke his mind but also had tremendous empathy for people and dogs. He was a huge star for this reason. Viewers trusted him as a human being.

Very unexpected. He was HUGELY popular in the UK, and a big dog lover.

@Antoyne @Soaplovers Re: Leah on UGT. I'm halfway through episode 3. And you were right. I was wrong. She's a narcissist who thinks she's back on RHONY and can control/police people's conversations. And as Porsha rightly inferred, she is a "Look at me! Don't look at me!" attention-seeker. It's exhausting. 6 yr olds act better than this Super-rude to act bored while Alexia was talking. Leah kind of hit it on the head when she said Alexia is on a loop reciting her script. However, Alexia has probably had to recount her life story so often now that it has inevitably settled into repetition. Her life story is still exciting, though -- certainly more exciting than Leah's. And that's what Leah couldn't stand. Porsha is a top-tier HW and can handle questions from Candiace about her marriage with ease. This is why Gizelle doesn't mess with Porsha and wants to be her buddy. Do I think the timeline on her engagement was sketchy? 100%. But I also think Porsha is super-careful about protecting 'her brand' and made sure all her ducks were lined up in a row before she publicly jumped into that relationship. Candiace tried but was unable to make Porsha squirm. Heather is still so, so cringe to me. Episode 2 mentioned Mama Elsa and I got 😪 . She was amazing. I liked Kenya more on RHUGT 1 than on RHOA where she seems increasingly grumpy. What I warmed to on RHUGT 1 was Kenya making friends with many of the other women. It was a new experience. But as I mentioned a day or so ago, I was 100% on Cynthia's side when she was largely abandoned by her friend who calculated that the Cynthia friendship post-RHOA was not so valuable to her. And Kenya clearly knew to target Ramona because, well, it's Ramona. I forgot about the physical force. Thanks for the Candiace-Gizelle timeline. It's obvious that Candiace is very cautious where Gizelle is concerned but neither does she want to start an outright war. She also wasn't in a good place with Chris when the trip started, so that may have contributed to her pulling her punches.

Forgot to say: I know Cynthia wasn't riveting fun on RHUGT 1 -- that show was all about Kenya’s star turn. However, on a human level, I really felt for her. She was struggling with some stuff, including being let go from RHOA, the feeling that Kenya was pulling away from their friendship precisely because she'd been dumped by Bravo, and the fact that her marriage (which she tried to paint as her blessed second chance at love) wasn't all that. I appreciate that she wasn't trying to hide her emotions behind an Everything's Perfect facade.

The ATL women have been absolutely crucial additions to UGT and honestly, it's a big reason why Cynthia and Phaedra are returning to the Bravo fold this year. I have no doubt that if Bravo could get Porsha back on RHOA, they would. It is clear from her UGT VTs in episode 1 that she won't return unless Production concentrates on making her and her brand look as great as possible. And frankly, I'm not sure that should be Production (and the rest of the cast's) priority at all. It didn't work on her last season, and it didn't work on her spin-off, that's for sure. The Gizelle-Candiace nicey-nice stuff and phone call made my head spin even if you take into account that reunion was filmed only recently and way after RHUGT. It actually made me wonder whether Candiace's anger on Reunion had all been an act? I haven't seen them really square off yet on UGT but I'm ready to! I was thinking how glad I was that nobody from BH was on this trip. They would have been passive-aggressive wet blankets with a superiority complex IMO.

Believe me, it was painful to even write that. Bear in mind, I'm only midway through episode 2, so haven't seen any more meaningful interactions of hers outside of episode 1 when she (rightly) called Heather out, put her on notice, but kept it breezy and moved on. I did notice her mini-tantrum at Pepsi about not giving her a 'good room' and my antenna went up. I know the self-righteous narcissist in Leah is bound to emerge with a vengeance soon.

Just finished episode 1. Confidently, i can say that this is my favourite UGT so far. The choice of HWs was very astute. These women all have contentious relationships with the audience, either as pot-stirrers (Giz), narcissists (Leah), hiding behind their sunny image (Porsha), or fakes (Heather). With the fourth-wall element somewhat removed, it will be interesting to see how far their machinations are exposed. Clearly, Heather is the one all these women can spot a mile away as being a fake AF, insecure Pick-Me. She also thinks she can fool the audience with her "I'm just a child in floaters surrounded by sharks" comment. Clearly deluded about her RH powers of pulling the wool over viewers' eyes. Gizelle going after Alexia & Marysol for speaking Spanglish. Really? This is the hill she wants to die on? Whitney is just going to parrot whatever she thinks Gizelle wants to hear. The SLC girls are woefully out of their depth on this show. Porsha is keeping it pretty and breezy but I'm ready for the questions about Simon & Falyn. Like @Faulkner said though, IA her presence is sorely missed from RHOA, and UGT reminds me why. Her aura puts Gizelle's in the shade. Deep breath. I'm liking Leah here so far.

IA that Bryton is a good actor, and when he gets material which allows him to do a slow build in terms of emotion, Bryton excels. It is also why he needs a firecracker upon which he can offset his more naturalistic style of acting. Obviously Hillary was that firecracker for a while. My problem is more with Ordway who does try, but comes across as almost a fembot because the svripts give her the most generic dialogue imaginable. Abby has, as others have mentioned here, no personality other than the last names of her parents. I think back to that little girl with all that gumption who sat on Victor's lap, huffing "I OWN Jabot!' in her best Uncle-Jack voice, and I can't help but think what could have been! A born actress. A gossip. A dreamer. A mini-me of her sensitive, sophisticated mother. That's the route I thought Abby would go as she got older.

The most interesting plot movement in yesterday's episode was Phyllis-Diane, in that I actually want to see how far Phyllis will go to destroy Diane. Feel sorry for Diane for having to deal with that obsessed stalker, lol. I have always had a fondness for Michael Grazadei and his ability to tease chemistry even from Christel Khalil. Beth Maitland also has that fine-honed ability, and the reason that the Traci-Nikki scene worked is that these two actresses are chemistry magnets who click with whoever they interact with. Devon-Abby are a cure for insomnia. Has Abby ever had a pairing that clicked? She's such an empty vessel of a character. Money? Or maybe DD threw one too many fits about his place on the show, and TPTB were like "Bye." They've not been invested in the character of Paul in a long, long time. Certainly not after Steve Burton left. I'd personally love Paul and Christine back and Lauralee Bell on the show fulltime.

Right. It was to sensationalise and scandalise viewers and they got the soap press to get behind the whole thing. Y&R kind of threw Chris Engen to the wolves, and they tempted fans with a possible gay SL which many had probably really wanted to see on Y&R for a long time. And I have to wonder if the show wasn't already planning to replace Engen with thirsty-ass Muhney. I don't think Y&R was crazy about Engen's boyish take on a character that MAB wanted to go full-dark-villain. Anyway, here is Engen's statement about his leaving: https://soaps.sheknows.com/the-young-and-the-restless/news/4355/chris-engen-statement-on-quitting-young-and-the-res/ And this is a SoapCentral article about the upheaval which presents more of Y&R/CBS's view: https://www.soapcentral.com/young-and-restless/news/2009/0525-engen.php?utm_content=cmp-true

So I like both Eric Braeden and Eva Longoria. EB's Twitter feed, with its copious use of YA GOT DAT-style exclamation marks, is always a hoot. I was sort-of prepared to take EB's side because he seems pretty together on his social media. Having said that... he overreacted, for real. EL was about maintaining her day job so she kept quiet about her acting. I do think he 'read' her feelings on the subject -- she does seem lowkey embarrassed about the soap clip, and that's what he reacted to. But his 4-5 Tweets went a little far. Jeez, she wasn't Eileen Davidson, but she wasn't that bad as Isabella. Obviously comedy is more her fit. Also: Robert Di Nero (sic) was on soaps?? 😅