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The Hamners worked on Texas and Another World. Linda worked on "Santa Barbara" and "General Hospital" as well. Khan, I do think there was some network interference. In the article PaulRaven posted, Ellen Kroger, a representative from Showtime, said they didn't want nudity for the sake of nudity. I don't think that's completely true. It may have been for Showtime, but I know the show aired on other cable systems. Every script I've read includes a sex scene to the point where it starts to stand out. For instance, in part 55, Miranda Stevens (the show's bitch) has this dinner party for the upper echeleons of Eden to introduce Madge Whitehead (Jane Elliott's newly arrived love interest for patriarch Bryan Lewis). The party scene is interesting with Betty Franklin (Lara Parker's concerned mother) catching her daughter Laurel in a lie, sexual tension between Gail Lee and Bryan Lewis, Biff Lewis flirting with both Laurel Franklin and Cynthia Clayborne, and a conversation between Biff Lewis and his aunt Miranda regarding the relationship between Clint Masterson and Pam Evans. What do we have opposite this? Lori Novack, a young girl who Biff slept with, explaining to the chief of police Tim Lockhart the intimate details of her tryst with Biff, including newly filmed material of Lori / Biff going at it. It's unnecessary unless they had a mandate that they needed to include this kind of material. In terms of content, I think Marland was certainly interjecting interesting themes into the younger stories that couldn't be dealt with on daytime. Pam Evans dated Greg Lewis, but Greg harbored feelings for Laurel Franklin, the daughter of his father's employee, Betty. When Greg and Pam split, Pam found solace in the arms of Clint Masterson, Greg's best friend and Miranda Stevens' (Greg's aunt) boytoy. Pam seems to have admired Miranda from the beginning, and Miranda exploited this by seducing an innocent and confused Pam at the Lewis pool one night. Pam realized her feelings for Miranda were strong and she and Clint split up. Meanwhile, Greg and Laurel grew closer while Betty was out of town to the dismay of Hud Richardson, Laurel's neighbor who believes he killed his own mother. It's all very layered and interconnected, but I can see how some of the sexual material could be a turn off.

Linda and Gary Hamner. I've seen them listed as script writers on other soaps. For the most part, I don't find fault with their scripts, but there is an occassion or two where I find something the younger set says to be a bit questionable. Here's the Mulcahey quote about 'Eden' Regarding Parker, I'm wondering how she played the shock of realizing her lies had led her daughter to sleep with her half-brother. The final script is quite a terrifying experience for Betty. She has returned home after being raped, desperately searching for Laurel. When she returns downstairs, she sees the lights are now out; she had left them on. We knew Betty was getting phone calls from a heavy breather, we know the serial killer is on the loose, we know Betty's former husband Joe Franklin is lurking in the shadows. When Betty realizes Laurel has lost her viriginity to Greg Lewis, Betty is horrified by the ramifications of her actions. The fallout of this story would have been very interesting to see playout. Its a shame it came to an end when it did. Similarly, I don't think Greg / Laurel were the only incest storyline. I'm getting the hint that Emmett Claybourne sexually abused his daughter Cynthia. Biff / Miranda chat about Cynthia's cold sexuality; Miranda labels her frigid, while Biff suggests she only acts like she hasn't had sex. Logan Claybourne returned to Eden after living in New York with his mother since his parents divorce. Logan was determined to learn why Emmett had fought for custody of Cynthia and not him. I think Emmett wanted Cynthia for himself. Marland may have recycled some of this on 'Loving' in the Lily plot, but the Clayborne story is more of a gothic tale. There is a dark undercurrent unrelated to the incest that it playing out. While not dead, Emmett's absence acts as a ghost that lingers in the house with his eventual return presenting a air of danger. Logan's discussion of his father suggests Emmett was a physically dangerous man, and Lockhart suspected he was the serial rapist / killer for some time. Overall, I don't know what to think about the show. There are elements that are really intriguing, while some of the sexual elements seem a burden. Over time, these are things that could have worked themselves out. The sexuality of characters like Biff if very different from anything I've seen / read about in televison.

I tracked down one article in which Anne Lockhart mentions guest starring on the pilot of 'a cable soap' and how the producers wanted her to continue, but she didn't want to take her clothes off. This wasn't the article I remembered. I thought she was asked about her role on 'Eden' at a 'Battlestar Gallatica' OS convention. I cannot seem to find that or maybe I'm simply making it up. Anyway, Lockhart's character was involved with Biff, as were all of the early strangler victims. I assume Lockhart would have been tied into the Lewis orbit. At times, I think Lara Parker's Betty might have been a thankless role. In a lot of the episodes I've read she simply goes on and on about Laurel's involvement with men and how she needs to stay away from the Lewis boys. I finally read script #132, which covers Kevin Wallace raping Betty. Patrick Mulcachy wrote the script and I can sort of see why he wasn't pleased with 'Eden.' The episode is vile. Betty has arrived at Wallace's place to find Laurel. This all takes place after the scene i typed up above. While at Wallace's place, Betty is talking about her concerns about Wallace, while Wallace makes pass after pass at her. The rape takes place over the course of three scenes, which seems gratitutious. Mulcachy even seems disinterested in the script. The stage directions state to fade out from the attack to pornographic material that is plastered on Wallace's wall or to use special effects. It's all too much. Given the overly sexual nature of the series, I'm not sure how we are suppose to interpret this scene. I will say Mulcachy's dialogue for the younger set is stronger than the Hamners, who wrote most of the other episodes I have. Mulcachy uses more crass language, while the Hamners tended to use phrases which do not stand the test of time. Regarding Betty, I was wrong about her husband, Joe Franklin. He wasn't dead. He had deserted Betty and Laurel years ago and had returned to town. Joe was seen outside the Franklin cottage on several occassions. During the rape, Betty flashes back to Joe forcing himself on her years ago. Betty had 'heavy breather' calling her, which may or may not have been Joe. At times, it seems to be a bit much, but I do appreciate the density of the text at times. There was certainly story to tell with this group of characters. Josh / Gail's friends with benefits relationship seems very ahead of its time. In another scene, Josh informs Gail he is aware of Gail's attraction for Bryan and says it doesn't threaten him. If I get a chance, I'll post a snippet of that scene.

I like the sad theme. Thank you, saynotoursoap, for this closing. It's from February 1981, right? Hubbard returned in January, the Bennetts left in March, and Jerry returned for Nola / Jason's wedding in March. Also I think Theodora finally died in February, didn't she?

No, I wasn't aware Jeffreys was only on for two months. There was so much publicity about her joining the show; I know the articles about her span from March to July 1971. They must have been interviewing her up until the minute she was fired.

Carl, I think the Campus Strangler killed off dayplayers, not contract characters, but I may be wrong. Four young women died before there were no more new days in Eden. According to the story, all the young women were freshmen in Kevin Wallace’s English Lit course and three of them had been sexually involved with Biff Lewis before their deaths. The first victim was Susan Walsh; I think Anne Lockhart played the role. Muffy Spencer was the second victim and Penny Landis was the third. Penny’s death set in motion the blackmail storyline between Biff Lewis / Shelley Novak. Shelley claimed she had spent the night with Biff the night of Penny’s murder and Shelley extorted money from him in exchange for the alibi. Luann Butler may have appeared in some classroom scenes, but she doesn’t appear in anything I’ve received. I’m waiting on one more script, Carl, which I’m hoping will clarify the Biff / Josh Collier / Lori situation. In regards to Madge / Miranda, both women are losers. Bryan Lewis is in love with Betty Franklin, Lara Parker’s character. After Bryan’s wife Emily died, Bryan had an affair with Betty, who worked as his office manager at the Atlanta operation of Lewis Electronics. For some reason, Betty left Bryan and ran off to Eden where she married Joe Franklin and had Bryan’s child, Laurel. After Betty left him, Bryan became involved with Madge, but Madge knew there had been someone else; she just didn’t know who. This scene is from script #131. At the end of part 60, Miranda apologized to Betty for snapping at her earlier (an incident in #130, the one script I don’t have out of the last nine) when Bryan Lewis arrives with Madge. Bryan mentions the death of another co-ed, which causes Betty to freak out; Laurel didn’t come home last night. This is the follow up. What I found particularly interesting about this is it plays out with both Miranda and Madge present, but the two act as if they are alone. I think it was a well done scene. The scene continues with Madge / Miranda bickering before Josh Collier and Gail Lee arrive to announce Gail’s plans to leave town. This is Gail’s last appearance. A goodbye dinner was arranged by Madge and Bryan at the country club, but Josh announces Gail had to skip out. This is a bit of a shame because it was hinted Miranda intended to use Gail to cause tension between Madge and Bryan. Gail and Bryan slept together around script # 117 or #118, which caused Bryan to realize how lonely he had been. In an exchange with Gail, which Miranda overhears, Bryan thanks Gail for reawakening him sexually. Instead of the Gail reveal, Madge overhears Betty / Bryan admitting their love to one another in the Lewis living room in the final episode.

Flora Campbell seems like such a normal woman. I forget sometimes that soaps allows actors regular employment in order to spend time raising their families. Its a shame they are fading.

Virginia Dwyer played Jane, Bruce's wife. Jane was the housekeeper who fell in love with Peter Ames.

Regina Gleason looks like Bev McKinsey in that pic. I haven't seen that one before. Thanks. Dabney Coleman does NOT come off across well in this interview at all. The interviewer tries, but I think it almost makes it worse. Pamela Murphy's comments about the population explosion and how it relates to soaps was interesting since soaps have always been heavy in children / pregnancy department. I really wish this show had continued. It sounds like there was a solid core, but the show's ratings never exploded. I've read Sandy had an illegitimate child, but I've never uncovered any details regarding that story.

From his interview with WeLoveSoaps earlier this year. I do think they do a wonderful job covering the entire body of the subject's work, and I don't think I praise them enough.

ZoeTate, I do believe this was the show Hall referred to in his interviews. I remember thinking of this when Hal Holbrook discussed how beautiful the speech was at Grayling and Sandra's wedding. Regarding Bell, he did work under Irna Phillips, who was the show's creator. It's possible he wrote for some of the series as I believe she did have ghostwriters. Minor point, I believe it was Althea, not Liz, who had the breakdown.

This is the Madge / Miranda confrontation that follows in Episode 129. Madge and Bryan return from a moonlit walk to find Miranda in the living room. After a few loaded comments from Miranda, Bryan leaves and Madge moves in for the kill. The Atlanta backstory is fleshed out a bit and the dynamics between Madge / Bryan / Miranda become a bit more clear. At first, I was a bit disappointed we don't get a take on Miranda realizing Madge has figured out all the sordid details, but I've come to appreciate it more. Miranda refuses to give up until the moment she says 'I don't need your pity!' This scene is part 58 and follows up to one of the concluding scenes of part 57 where Madge announces to Miranda: "Look, Miranda, I know you came between Bryan and me once before. I want to talk to you about that now and I want you to listen --- very carefully."

Here is the Bryan / Madge scene on the terrace during the party. Captain Lockhart has just taken Biff into the foyer to discuss the Campus Strangler case and Bryan has been stewing on the terrace. I thought this was one of the better scenes and gave a rather interesting insight into the Lewis men. From Part 56 (Episode 128, Part 2)

Aren't the photos of the actresses who were providing the radio voices? Jay Meredith may have provided a voice for a 19 year old while being much older. I think one of the soap books mentions Liz appearing on the show in the early years, but they don't credit an actress in the part. My understanding is Liz faded into the background and later replaced Marcia as the happily married sister who came to town when the family needed to celebrate or was in a crisis. The family does seem to have evolved based on the two articles you have posted. Babby seems to be a perennial teenager, while Patsy has matured into the young unwed sister fighting off the advances of men while trying to hold the family together. It would seem Patsy replaced Liz.

I've read through most of part 56, which covers the second half of the party at the Lewis home to celebrate the arrival of Madge WHITEHEAD. All the soap books list Jane Elliott as Madge SINCLAIR. I'm not sure if Sinclair is simply a misprint or her married name. Marland would reuse the name Whitehead on 'Loving.' Society matron Millicent Whitehead was the aunt of Hemsley, the man who was married to Jack Forbes biological mother at the time of her death. Madge's party is interrupted by Lockhart, the chief of police. Lockhart arrives to speak with Biff about the murders. Biff claims the gloves belong to Amy Stanley, a young woman he picked up in Elkhorn, NM. Amy's car had broken down and Biff bedded her during their brief time together. Biff admits he told Amy he was married to Francie and they had children together. While this was clearly a lie he told Amy, I assume it would have been used in the eventual split between Francie / Biff. In the scene I posted, Biff claimed he wouldn't cheat if he was shackign up with Francie. I'm sure Francie would have seen this as the proof that Biff couldn't be faithful. At the hospital, cousins Lori and Shelley visit. Shelley felt no man could love her with her scars. Lori thinks Shelley should be grateful and mentions Bryan Lewis offer to pay for her plastic surgery. Shelley is upset because of the tension with Biff Lewis and Lori is intrigued by Shelley's hatred for the Lewis family. This would all play out later in part 61. Biff returned to the party and manipulated Aunt Miranda into getting Bryan to keep him in Eden; he cannot leave due to the suspicion of rape and murder. It also seems Biff doesn't want Bryan to know the truth because it might get back to Francie, who works at the Lewis plant. Miranda is less than pleased by the growing tenderness between Madge and Bryan. Bryan discusses his sons in a rather enlightening scene and admits he treats them differently because of the man he himself has become. I might post some of that later. In the background, Miranda witnesses Bryan and Madge embracing and is jealous of the relationship. Josh Collier talks with Betty Franklin and Gail Lee about his investigation into the development of Lewis Enterprises. Knowing how the show ends, its clear this is all meant to reveal pieces of Betty / Bryan's prior relationship. Josh admits the company began to grow two years after the death of Bryan's first wife, which shocks Gail. Gail thought it was Emily Lewis' death that spurred Bryan's drive, but with Betty's talk of being an office manager and Madge's reference to Bryan's lost love all pieces should have been falling into place for the audience. In Part 61, Greg and Laurel stumble upon Luanne Butler's body on the campus of Eden State. Greg and Laurel report the body and talk in the student union about all the awful things that have happened in Eden. Lockhart questions Biff about his whereabouts the previous evening; he explains he was with Francie (part 61 is still playing out the same day that begun at the end of part 58). Biff goes to visit Francie at the factory; she's still sore about Biff's 'proposal' to shack up. Upset about Biff's comments, Francie informs Biff that Greg has been sleeping with Laurel Richardson. While Laurel and Greg are discovering the body, Biff is visiting Shelley at the hospital. Biff is concerned because Shelley wanted to speak to the police. In a rather lengthy fantasy sequence, Biff imagines Shelley is confessing she provided Biff a false alibi for the night Penny Landis died. When Biff gets to see Shelley, Shelley tells Biff she only told Lockhart she wanted to drop the charges against her attacker. Shelley claims she is a new woman. In the notes, the actress playing Lori is suppose to play the scene as if Lori wants Biff for herself. In some minor scenes, Miranda / Betty discuss a mysterious phone call; the details of this plot point are unclear. Miranda complains about how the murder will affect AURIC's decision to purchase Miranda's land for a housing development. Gail informed Josh she had been reassigned, she, too, works for AURIC. The two come to an understanding that their relationship was more 'friends with benefits' than 'happily ever after.' They talk about marriage, but Gail says they wouldn't be able to make it work. Josh tells Gail he knows Gail was attracted to Bryan Lewis. Gail seems to be a rather significant character, but this seems to be her exit arc. Carl, Biff says Lockhart is upset because 'the man he arrested ended up hanging himself.' I guess Luke was arrested because they thought he was the Campus Strangler and killed himself in prison. Biff lied to Lori because Lori was coming to Eden to see Shelley. Shelley had blackmailed Biff with the information regarding his alibi in the Campus Strangler murders. Biff didn't want Lori to tell her cousin about Lori / Biff's sexual liason because he thought it would fuel the fire. Susan Walsh was the first victim of the killer. If episode 1 pops up, maybe we will learn more about her.

The Hal Holbrook article was neat. The timing of Grayling's marriage and the birth of Ruby's baby was interesting. I recently watched Men of Honor and was thinking what a great addition Holbrook would have been to a soap around that time. I realize his career was mor uch more extensive outside soaps, but I was just thinking of what his presence could have added to a show that needed a male of a certain age in the 1990s. The color photo of Lois Nettleton isn't very flattering. She comes across much prettier in the black and white shots I've seen of her. I never understood the Blake / Randy Hamilton connection. I guess they were two separate characters. Many soap books have them listed interchangably. I presume this last set of photos was used to premier 'The Brighter Day' as it was a spinoff of 'Joyce Jordan' or one of the other nursing serials. I wonder how long Reverend Dennis appeared on the former serial before it was cancelled. I had known Redfield had been Dr. Cole on 'As the World Turns,' but I had forgotten he appeared on 'The Brighter Day.' I wonder what Redfield would have done in 'One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest' if his character hadn't been soon marginalized. The Dennis family seems fascinating with weak Grayling, ambitious Althea, motherly Liz, and the younger set. I was surprised to see the oldest sister, Maggie?, mentioned in the synopses you posted in the radio soap thread. I had heard about her, but I didn't think she had any story of substance.

I thought McGuire's wife Gigi looked like the actress who played Hazel on "Search."

I didn't realize Dabney had been married to McCarthy. This kind of makes Dabney / Prince a bit shocking. Thanks for this!

I’ve been away and will need to play catch up, but I wanted to mention I’m received three additional scripts and have three more on their way. The current batch of episodes I received include 127, 128, and 131. I’ve skimmed and looked over different things so this will be rather random and more in reference to other things I’ve mentioned. Loyalty, there is no mention of Isabelle Kittridge in the cast lists or run down pages, but its possible she might be mentioned in the course of the dialogue. Also, Pam, the young woman who Miranda seduced, doesn’t appear. Hopefully, Pam will appear in one of the other scripts I’m waiting on. I suspect episode #125 may include Pam / Miranda’s seduction. At the very least, it should include the fall out. Carl, a young woman is found dead on campus in episode #131. She was strangled with panty hose so Hud’s flashbacks were related to the murders. In the end of #131, Lockhart informs Bryan Lewis that Biff Lewis, Bryan’s son, and Kevin Wallace, the professor. So Lockhart is aware of Kevin’s history in the final episode. ‘Betty in danger’ is Betty knocking on the door of Professor Wallace’s door. Wallace is not seen. I’m still not sure regarding Betty’s loss, but Biff mentioned one person died in the explosion at the Lewis Electronics plant. I’m still thinking this is related. I do believe the show was written with the intentions of appearing nightly as the explosion was in episode #117 and Shelley is still in the hospital. Biff’s blackmail plot involved Shelley Novack. Biff knew a majority of the young women who died at the hands of the Campus Strangler. Shelley covered for Biff the night Susan Walker (the first victim) died and blackmailed him for money. Biff blackmailed someone else in order to make the payoffs. Shelley’s attacker was Gino Lombardo. Shelley wanted to drop the charges because Lombardo’s family suffered enough as Luke has committed suicide. Who Luke is and how he fit into the story is unclear. Josh Collier was implicated in the murders in a more complex manner. Lori Novack hitchhikes her way into town. She tells Biff she is seeing her cousin, Shelley. Realizing the connection, Biff claims he is Josh Collier and he sleeps with Lori. While in the car, Lori finds stockings and gloves and informs Captain Lockhart. Obviously, Lockhart suspects Josh, but eventually realizes it is Biff. One of the scripts I have belonged to the actress playing Lori Novack. Her lines are highlighted and there is some rewritten dialogue / motivation scribbled in. Lori seems like she was going to be a bit of a schemer based on the side comments. Unfortunately, I don't know who she is. Biff smokes pot in the part labeled ‘Sweet Honey.’ The smoke is used to introduce a flashback. It sounds like it might have been rather effective. I’ll post more as I make my way through the scripts.

Once again saynotoursoap, thanks for taking the time to share your recollections. The retelling of the Chris / Hugh / Allison story delves more into the shading to the plots that you simply do not get from the soap books. Allison's motivations for pursuing Hugh seem double-edged as she wants a suitable mate as well as to stick it to her sister / rival Kate. Above, I said Hugh's mother was Ruth, but I was thinking of Ruth Monroe. I believe her name is actually Harriet. Also, I didn't realize how Christine's mental collapse had developed. I was aware of Adrienne's manipulation and Christine's history with married men, but I didn't consider the complications of the Will Watt saga. One of the reviewers in the Village Voice said Christine was foolish when she awoke to find Will with a pillow in his hands claiming he was only trying to make her more comfortable. This was much appreciated.

Thanks for replying. I misinterpreted what you had said. A few pages back, you described the early days as so-so in comparison to the later runs of Falken-Smith and Avila Mayer / Labine. After reading this, I have a firmer grasp on your meaning. In the beginning, was Arthur Saxton involved in the plot to get the Hathaway land that had bestowed to the Hathaway siblings after the death of their father? I posted interviews a couple pages back that discuss the story. Allison and Roy Archer were scheming to sell the land so they had split up with the intent of Roy marrying Kate to get his hands on her share of the land. Steve was also interested in her land, but I assume he was more honest about his attempts. Do you know if Roy Archer’s death by mugging was related to the criminal storyline? And after Roy’s death, how long was it before Allison married Hugh? I cannot imagine it was very long considering the amount of story Christine had with Hugh and later John. I know ‘Where the Heart Is’ is said to have played at breakneck speed, but it’s just hard to get a sense of timing based on the information that is out there. Thank you for taking time to share with us your memories of these often forgotten program, and I apologize if the constant string of questions is a nuisance. It’s just so rare to find people who have seen the many of the shows first hand and remember them with such detail.

This scene is one of the last in part 58. After Francie put Frank to bed and got rid of Davey, she and Biff snuck out to the country together. Included in this scene is Biff's fantasy of 'the good life' for him and Francie. This is also the proposal Francie received, which is mentioned in the episode guide.

I'm surprised Art and Kathleen weren't brought in briefly when Maura/Katie arrived. Then again, it was Falken-Smith's time with the show, which was fairly rough. I don't know what they could have done with the Thompsons. Kathleen and Art were happy and settled unlike the rest of the Ryans. I appreciated Kathleen coming back after Mary's death to talk to Jack. I thought that was a nice touch. Someone online said Nancy Reardon (Kathleen, RH) subbed for Diana van der Vlis as Kate Hathaway on 'Where the Heart Is.' Maybe saynotoursoap can confirm or deny this? I definitely be interested in reading that article. Saynotoursoap says the early episodes were boring, which is a shame because it sounds like it had the makings to be very interesting. I didn't notice the dresses. The weird broach thing on them bothers me a bit, but I like the style. I can see what you mean about the length, but I still think it looks good on van der Vlis. She reminds me of the often seen pic of Christina Crawford in the cast shot for 'The Secret Storm.' Nell's story is my favorite story from the show's first year. On youtube, there is a wonderful performance of van der Vlis from her second run on RH where she plays Sherry Rowan. One episode is devoted to the conclusion of the murder mystery involving Sherry's late husband. Van der Vlis is wonderful as she gets a confession out of her husband's former mistress. Harrington can be seen as the Countess in 'Swans Crossing.' All those episodes were on youtube at one point. Unfortunately, the quality isn't great. I have dubs of a similar quality. Harrington was interesting in the role, but its not a huge part.

There definitely is an incest element going on here. In the final episode, Francie learns Hud has been keeping Ida's room just as she had left it before her death complete with a mannequin in the bed. Very Norman Bates-esque. Betty Franklin is aware Hud has seen a psychiatrist, but I don't understand why there isn't some sort of question revolving around her death. In a towel, Hud has a fight with his mother about self pleasure (I haven't reviewed the guidelines regarding language use) and then kills her with her own nylons. Yes, it's a bit of an odd scene which is why I posted it. The serial killer terrorizing Eden was called 'The Campus Strangler' so I assume this had something to do with the manner of the death. I suspect the whole nude leg thing was suppose to suggest whoever killed Ida was also the serial killer as it may have been similar to one of the other murders, but this is just a guess. I didn't really even pay attention to the 'good looking' part, but I was surprised by Ida's age. How old was she suppose to be when she had Hud? Hud is clearly a teenager? Was she sixteen? And if that's the case wouldn't this add another layer to conversation? Regarding some of your previous comments, Carl, I don't know who played Kevin Wallace, the professor who raped Betty. None of the scripts have any cast members listed and I'd never heard of the character prior to the final script. He doesn't appear in episode 29. When I read the last script, I thought Francie was an Erica Kane-type. A poor girl trying to marry into money, but this script makes it clear that she was a heroine in the traditional sense. I tend to like her character more than Laurel despite all the perils of Pauline in the final episode. She has sacrificed her own happiness in order to take care of her father. While she has come to care for Biff, Francie isn't willing to sacrifice her own moral code to please him. The Biff-Francie conflict plays out nicely in the fantasy scene. I think I'll try and post an excerpt from that one later if you're interested. Laurel, on the otherhand, comes off as immature and naive as her mother claims she is. Steve Carlson had a sex scene in part 58. After returning from the retrieving the purse, he and Gail Lee (Victoria Tan) make love in his hotel suite. I also wanted to mention that Josh Collier (Steve's character) is seen smoking in the hotel room. Somewhere online, there was an article on tobacco which said several television shows were being paid to incorporate acceptable tobacco use into their shows. I guess this is one example of this.

Love Diana van der Vlis. She always seems like such a unique presence in both her roles on "Ryan's Hope." Thanks, Carl. The pictures of the sets are great as I haven't seen them before. I love the way Louise Shaffer has her hair in those pictures. Delightful. Abels appeared yesterday in the RH reruns. It's Christmas 1976 and Art and Kathleen are in New York for the holidays. I was imagining this would be what Michael Hathaway would be looking like in 1976. lol.