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I thought McGuire's wife Gigi looked like the actress who played Hazel on "Search."

I didn't realize Dabney had been married to McCarthy. This kind of makes Dabney / Prince a bit shocking. Thanks for this!

I’ve been away and will need to play catch up, but I wanted to mention I’m received three additional scripts and have three more on their way. The current batch of episodes I received include 127, 128, and 131. I’ve skimmed and looked over different things so this will be rather random and more in reference to other things I’ve mentioned. Loyalty, there is no mention of Isabelle Kittridge in the cast lists or run down pages, but its possible she might be mentioned in the course of the dialogue. Also, Pam, the young woman who Miranda seduced, doesn’t appear. Hopefully, Pam will appear in one of the other scripts I’m waiting on. I suspect episode #125 may include Pam / Miranda’s seduction. At the very least, it should include the fall out. Carl, a young woman is found dead on campus in episode #131. She was strangled with panty hose so Hud’s flashbacks were related to the murders. In the end of #131, Lockhart informs Bryan Lewis that Biff Lewis, Bryan’s son, and Kevin Wallace, the professor. So Lockhart is aware of Kevin’s history in the final episode. ‘Betty in danger’ is Betty knocking on the door of Professor Wallace’s door. Wallace is not seen. I’m still not sure regarding Betty’s loss, but Biff mentioned one person died in the explosion at the Lewis Electronics plant. I’m still thinking this is related. I do believe the show was written with the intentions of appearing nightly as the explosion was in episode #117 and Shelley is still in the hospital. Biff’s blackmail plot involved Shelley Novack. Biff knew a majority of the young women who died at the hands of the Campus Strangler. Shelley covered for Biff the night Susan Walker (the first victim) died and blackmailed him for money. Biff blackmailed someone else in order to make the payoffs. Shelley’s attacker was Gino Lombardo. Shelley wanted to drop the charges because Lombardo’s family suffered enough as Luke has committed suicide. Who Luke is and how he fit into the story is unclear. Josh Collier was implicated in the murders in a more complex manner. Lori Novack hitchhikes her way into town. She tells Biff she is seeing her cousin, Shelley. Realizing the connection, Biff claims he is Josh Collier and he sleeps with Lori. While in the car, Lori finds stockings and gloves and informs Captain Lockhart. Obviously, Lockhart suspects Josh, but eventually realizes it is Biff. One of the scripts I have belonged to the actress playing Lori Novack. Her lines are highlighted and there is some rewritten dialogue / motivation scribbled in. Lori seems like she was going to be a bit of a schemer based on the side comments. Unfortunately, I don't know who she is. Biff smokes pot in the part labeled ‘Sweet Honey.’ The smoke is used to introduce a flashback. It sounds like it might have been rather effective. I’ll post more as I make my way through the scripts.

Once again saynotoursoap, thanks for taking the time to share your recollections. The retelling of the Chris / Hugh / Allison story delves more into the shading to the plots that you simply do not get from the soap books. Allison's motivations for pursuing Hugh seem double-edged as she wants a suitable mate as well as to stick it to her sister / rival Kate. Above, I said Hugh's mother was Ruth, but I was thinking of Ruth Monroe. I believe her name is actually Harriet. Also, I didn't realize how Christine's mental collapse had developed. I was aware of Adrienne's manipulation and Christine's history with married men, but I didn't consider the complications of the Will Watt saga. One of the reviewers in the Village Voice said Christine was foolish when she awoke to find Will with a pillow in his hands claiming he was only trying to make her more comfortable. This was much appreciated.

Thanks for replying. I misinterpreted what you had said. A few pages back, you described the early days as so-so in comparison to the later runs of Falken-Smith and Avila Mayer / Labine. After reading this, I have a firmer grasp on your meaning. In the beginning, was Arthur Saxton involved in the plot to get the Hathaway land that had bestowed to the Hathaway siblings after the death of their father? I posted interviews a couple pages back that discuss the story. Allison and Roy Archer were scheming to sell the land so they had split up with the intent of Roy marrying Kate to get his hands on her share of the land. Steve was also interested in her land, but I assume he was more honest about his attempts. Do you know if Roy Archer’s death by mugging was related to the criminal storyline? And after Roy’s death, how long was it before Allison married Hugh? I cannot imagine it was very long considering the amount of story Christine had with Hugh and later John. I know ‘Where the Heart Is’ is said to have played at breakneck speed, but it’s just hard to get a sense of timing based on the information that is out there. Thank you for taking time to share with us your memories of these often forgotten program, and I apologize if the constant string of questions is a nuisance. It’s just so rare to find people who have seen the many of the shows first hand and remember them with such detail.

This scene is one of the last in part 58. After Francie put Frank to bed and got rid of Davey, she and Biff snuck out to the country together. Included in this scene is Biff's fantasy of 'the good life' for him and Francie. This is also the proposal Francie received, which is mentioned in the episode guide.

I'm surprised Art and Kathleen weren't brought in briefly when Maura/Katie arrived. Then again, it was Falken-Smith's time with the show, which was fairly rough. I don't know what they could have done with the Thompsons. Kathleen and Art were happy and settled unlike the rest of the Ryans. I appreciated Kathleen coming back after Mary's death to talk to Jack. I thought that was a nice touch. Someone online said Nancy Reardon (Kathleen, RH) subbed for Diana van der Vlis as Kate Hathaway on 'Where the Heart Is.' Maybe saynotoursoap can confirm or deny this? I definitely be interested in reading that article. Saynotoursoap says the early episodes were boring, which is a shame because it sounds like it had the makings to be very interesting. I didn't notice the dresses. The weird broach thing on them bothers me a bit, but I like the style. I can see what you mean about the length, but I still think it looks good on van der Vlis. She reminds me of the often seen pic of Christina Crawford in the cast shot for 'The Secret Storm.' Nell's story is my favorite story from the show's first year. On youtube, there is a wonderful performance of van der Vlis from her second run on RH where she plays Sherry Rowan. One episode is devoted to the conclusion of the murder mystery involving Sherry's late husband. Van der Vlis is wonderful as she gets a confession out of her husband's former mistress. Harrington can be seen as the Countess in 'Swans Crossing.' All those episodes were on youtube at one point. Unfortunately, the quality isn't great. I have dubs of a similar quality. Harrington was interesting in the role, but its not a huge part.

There definitely is an incest element going on here. In the final episode, Francie learns Hud has been keeping Ida's room just as she had left it before her death complete with a mannequin in the bed. Very Norman Bates-esque. Betty Franklin is aware Hud has seen a psychiatrist, but I don't understand why there isn't some sort of question revolving around her death. In a towel, Hud has a fight with his mother about self pleasure (I haven't reviewed the guidelines regarding language use) and then kills her with her own nylons. Yes, it's a bit of an odd scene which is why I posted it. The serial killer terrorizing Eden was called 'The Campus Strangler' so I assume this had something to do with the manner of the death. I suspect the whole nude leg thing was suppose to suggest whoever killed Ida was also the serial killer as it may have been similar to one of the other murders, but this is just a guess. I didn't really even pay attention to the 'good looking' part, but I was surprised by Ida's age. How old was she suppose to be when she had Hud? Hud is clearly a teenager? Was she sixteen? And if that's the case wouldn't this add another layer to conversation? Regarding some of your previous comments, Carl, I don't know who played Kevin Wallace, the professor who raped Betty. None of the scripts have any cast members listed and I'd never heard of the character prior to the final script. He doesn't appear in episode 29. When I read the last script, I thought Francie was an Erica Kane-type. A poor girl trying to marry into money, but this script makes it clear that she was a heroine in the traditional sense. I tend to like her character more than Laurel despite all the perils of Pauline in the final episode. She has sacrificed her own happiness in order to take care of her father. While she has come to care for Biff, Francie isn't willing to sacrifice her own moral code to please him. The Biff-Francie conflict plays out nicely in the fantasy scene. I think I'll try and post an excerpt from that one later if you're interested. Laurel, on the otherhand, comes off as immature and naive as her mother claims she is. Steve Carlson had a sex scene in part 58. After returning from the retrieving the purse, he and Gail Lee (Victoria Tan) make love in his hotel suite. I also wanted to mention that Josh Collier (Steve's character) is seen smoking in the hotel room. Somewhere online, there was an article on tobacco which said several television shows were being paid to incorporate acceptable tobacco use into their shows. I guess this is one example of this.

Love Diana van der Vlis. She always seems like such a unique presence in both her roles on "Ryan's Hope." Thanks, Carl. The pictures of the sets are great as I haven't seen them before. I love the way Louise Shaffer has her hair in those pictures. Delightful. Abels appeared yesterday in the RH reruns. It's Christmas 1976 and Art and Kathleen are in New York for the holidays. I was imagining this would be what Michael Hathaway would be looking like in 1976. lol.

This is the scene between Hud and his mother. Later there is a scene of him dreaming of the incident and the aftermath is displayed

Episode 129 is the latest script I received. It covers the events after the party celebrating the arrival of Madge Sinclair, Jane Elliott’s character. Sorry Loyalty, there doesn’t seem to be any mention of Isabel Kitteridge, but this isn’t the party itself. I’m currently bidding on script 128 where the party occurred. Hopefully, I’ll be able to answer your question in the future. There still is no appearance by Pam or Shelley, which is disappointing. I was hoping to get a better sense of their characters. Shelley was the subject of the conversation. Apparently, Shelley had been scarred by a man named Lombardo and was still in the hospital. Shelley was refusing to see Hank Sowolski, the young man she had begun to see prior to the accident. Hank’s brother Davey and Francie Richardson were seen at Cronies’, the local bar, talking about how upset Hank was because Shelley had continued to turn him away. Hank was mentioned in the final script. Betty called the Sowolski home to speak to Myra, Hank’s mother. Davey was the young man referred to as a hayseed by Biff Lewis. Davey and Francie are close, but I don’t think there is a romantic connection on Francie’s end. While she seems to love Biff, Francie doesn’t love the fact Biff is only after sex. Davey seems to represent the man Francie feels she should be in love with rather than Biff. If the show had continued, its possible Francie would have turned to Davey when everything was said and done. After dropping off Francie, Davey went hunting in the woods for raccoons. In the woods, Davey found Greg and Laurel making love at the abandoned farm house. This incident was the source material for the story Laurel Franklin wrote for Wallace’s writing course. Anyway, in the cliffhanger for part 58, Davey informs Frank Richardson he cannot wait to tell Francie what he has seen in the woods. Davey would tell Francie, who would tell Biff. I believe this was all being used for the big incest reveal. Laurel says her mother accused her of flirting with Biff, Greg, and Logan. I wonder if the audience knew Betty had had an affair with another man and thought it was either Emmett Claybourne or Bryan Lewis and they were led to believe she may or may not have been involved with her brother. Betty goes to see Hud to talk about Laurel; Betty thinks Laurel is hiding something from her. Hud is loyal to Laurel and won’t give anything away if he does know, but I’m not convinced he knows how close Greg and Laurel have become. Hud’s mother issues are fleshed out a bit. The conflict between Betty-Laurel leads to a discussion between Hud-Betty about fighting between parents and children. Hud has a flashback of the day his mother was killed. Ida, Hud’s mom, found a porn magazine in his room and proceeds to flip out on him. Hud says one of his teammates gave it to him and Ida said she won’t have doing dirty things in her home. Hud claims he’s innocent. When Ida threatens to tell Betty about Hud’s dirty deeds, Hud threatens to kill his mother. Later, Hud is standing over his mother’s dead body, her own stockings being used to strangle her to death. Hud says he killed her. I’ve been told Frank Richardson, Hud’s uncle, was actually the Campus Strangler. While Ida wasn’t killed by the Strangler, I wonder if Frank actually killed Ida, his sister/sister-in-law, and Hud just believed he had killed his mother. The situation regarding Hud / Ida’s death is odd because Betty / Hud talk about how Hud was treated by psychiatrists after the death of his mother, but there is no mention of the murder. It dawned on me Josh Collier was another suspect in the case. When he arrived in Eden, the murders began and Miranda had learned Josh’s first wife Corrine has drowned under mysterious circumstances. At the start of part 57, Josh encounters Miranda swimming in the nude. He announces to her that he had come to pick up the purse left behind by his date Gail. Miranda gets very upset and they fight back and forth. Miranda won’t get close to Josh, and Josh gets her to back up to the edge of the pool. Josh returns to his hotel room where he and Gail Lee have sex. Miranda and Madge have a rather lengthy confrontation where Madge reveals a substantial amount of backstory. Madge had been involved with Bryan when the Lewis family was still living in Atlanta. When Bryan went to look for somewhere to relocate Lewis Electronics, Miranda paid Beau, one of Miranda’s lovers, to seduce Madge and marry her. Miranda, who went with Bryan to Eden, intercepted the correspondence sent by Madge and Bryan in order to think the other had fallen out of love with the other. Madge learned that Miranda and Beau had had an affair and Beau told Madge how Miranda had paid him thousands of dollars to marry Madge. Madge came to realize Miranda did all of this because Miranda was in love with Bryan. Miranda denies everything, but Madge says she will not leave Eden until Bryan is her husband. After leaving Davey, Francie agrees to go off to the country with Biff that evening. In the woods, Biff describes his ideal situation for him and Francie: he would come home from work to their apartment where Francie would be cooking in just an apron. You can guess where the rest of the fantasy goes from there. Francie is okay with it as she thinks this means Biff wants to settle down and marry her. Biff informs Francie he doesn’t want to marry her; he just wants to put her up in an apartment so she can serve his needs, not her father’s. Francie gets upset and asks to be driven home.

Thank you for your comments. I posted this about a year and half ago, but no one seemed all that interested except for EricMontreal. lol I couldn’t help thinking Biff would be a dumb hick. I’ve just received another script and he refers to another character as a hayseed. Originally, the Lewis family was from Atlanta; Bryan relocated the company to Eden prior to the show’s start. I think Biff considered himself urbane compared to the residents of Eden because of Atlanta roots. Biff Lewis seems to have more on his mind than just sex; though, sex is very important. Wasn’t Marland’s Josh Lewis sort of playboy heir with a sense for business? Regarding Betty’s ‘tragic news, and ‘loss;’ I don’t know if she lost a baby. I’ve just gotten a second script (episode #129) so my sources are the older episodes. Betty Franklin did work for Lewis Electronics so her loss may be related to the explosion at the factory. I don’t know if Betty has a love interest. In part 58, Betty invites a man named Mark over for breakfast, but the episode closes with Betty alone in the kitchen before he arrives after realizing her daughter Laurel didn’t sleep at home. Speculation on my part, but I think Mark might be Dr. Hammond. I assumed Betty called Hammond in part 66 because he handled her rape, but Betty told Frank Richardson she talked to Dr. Hammond about Frank’s paralysis. I’m now considering the possibility that Hammond and Betty were in a casual relationship, but this purely conjecture. When I get the chance, I’ll some more details from the latest script I received.

I posted an earlier version of this in the 'A New Day in Eden' EricMontreal started several years ago, but I've found more information since then. Below is a BRIEF episode guide I've put together for 'Eden.' These were the listings Showtime provided in the television section of the newspaper. Showtime aired 'A New Day in Eden' on Tuesdays and Thursdays for about five to eight episodes before taking a week off to rerun the previous set of episodes on nightly basis. I haven't been able to find any description for parts 3-6 other than 'A powerful family turns a small town into a model rejuvenation project.' In labelling the episodes, I started with the part label that was listed in the newspaper and then included the script. I know there was some confusion once so, to clarify, thirty-scripts were written, each written with two parts, and they were aired separately. In total, there were 66 half-hour parts aired and 33 hour long scripts written. Part One (Episode 101, Part 1) A powerful family turns a small town into a model rejuvenation project. a: November 2, 1982 n: premiered @ 10 PM Part Two (Episode 101, Part 2) a: November 2, 1982 n: aired back to back with part one as an hour long premier Part Three (Episode 102, Part 1) a: November 9, 1982 Part Four (Episode 102, Part 2) a: November 11, 1982 n: first first run episode to air on Thursdays at 10:00 Part Five (Episode 103, Part 1) a: November 16, 1982 Part Six (Episode 103, Part 2) a: November 18, 1982 Part Seven (Episode 104, Part 1) Miranda inspires Pam. a: November 23, 1982 Part Eight (Episode 104, Part 2) Pam seduces Greg. a: December 7, 1982 Part Nine (Episode 105, Part 1) A deal with a tramp. a: December 9, 1982 Part 10 (Episode 105, Part 2) Biff fights back. a: December 14, 1982 Part 11 (Episode 106, Part 1) A loaded invitation. a: December 16, 1982 Part 12 (Episode 106, Part 2) Emmett's fantasy. a: December 21, 1982 Part 13 (Episode 107, Part 1) An uncomfortable dinner. a: December 23, 1982 Part 14 (Episode 107, Part 2) Clint declares his love. a: January 4, 1983 n: First first-run episode airing at 10:30 on Tuesday. Part 15 (Episode 108, Part 1) Another murder in Eden. a: January 6, 1983 n: First first-run episode airing at 10:30 on Thursday. Part 16 (Episode 108, Part 2) A black proposal. a: January 11, 1983 Part 17 (Episode 109, Part 1) The first pay off. a: January 13, 1983 Part 18 (Episode 109, Part 2) Double blackmail. a: January 18, 1983 Part 19 (Episode 110, Part 1) Jealous lovers. a: January 20, 1983 Part 20 (Episode 110, Part 2) Betty's dark secret. a: February 1, 1983 n: First first-run episode airing at 11:30 on Tuesday. Part 21 (Episode 111, Part 1) Clint confesses. a: February 3, 1983 n: First first-run episode airing at 11:30 on Thursday. Part 22 (Episode 111, Part 2) Biff gets the cash. a: February 8, 1983 Part 23 (Episode 112, Part 1) Pam's new lover. a: February 10, 1983 Part 24 (Episode 112, Part 2) A surprise for Miranda. a February 15, 1983 Part 25 (Episode 113, Part 1) Shelley raped. a: February 17, 1983 Part 26 (Episode 113, Part 2) Shelley's revenge. a: March 1, 1983 Part 27 (Episode 114, Part 1) Miranda threatens murder. a: March 3, 1983 Part 28 (Episode 114, Part 2) Lovers for the first time. a: March 8, 1983 Part 29 (Episode 115, Part 1) The rapist confesses. a: March 10, 1983 Part 30 (Episode 115, Part 2) Biff's pay off backfires. a: March 15, 1983 Part 31 (Episode 116, Part 1) Shelley's new lover. a: March 17, 1983 Part 32 (Episode 116, Part 2) Miranda loses Clint. a: March 22, 1983 Part 33 (Episode 117, Part 1) Emmett's secret visitor. a: March 24, 1983 Part 34 (Episode 117, Part 2) An explosion at Lewis Electronics. a: April 7, 1983 Part 35 (Episode 118, Part 1) The factory in chaos. a: April 12, 1983 Part 36 (Episode 118, Part 2) Shelley in critical condition a: April 14, 1983 Part 37 (Episode 119, Part 1). Biff spies on Pam and Clint. a: April 19, 1983 Part 38 (Episode 119, Part 2) Tragic news for Betty. a: April 21, 1983 Part 39 (Episode 120, Part 1) Another surprise for Josh. a: May 3, 1983 Part 40 (Episode 120, Part 2) Biff's personal maid. a: May 5, 1983 Part 41 (Episode 121, Part 1) The arsonist revealed. a: May 10, 1983 Part 42 (Episode 121, Part 2) Betty's loss. a: May 12, 1983 Part 43 (Episode 122, Part 1) Hud's bizarre fantasy. a: May 17, 183 Part 44 (Episode 122, Part 2) A confession to murder. a: May 19, 1983 n: The final week long marathon aired the following week. Part 45 (Episode 123, Part 1) Emmett threatens Cynthia. a: May 31, 1983 Part 46 (Episode 123, Part 2) Miranda targets a victim. a: June 2, 1983 Part 47 (Episode 124, Part 1) Biff's roadside romance. a: June 7, 1983 Part 48 (Episode 124, Part 2) Miranda seduces Pam. a: June 9, 1983 Part 49 (Episode 125, Part 1) Bryan's surprise houseguest. a: June 14, 1983 Part 50 (Episode 125, Part 2) Emmett runs from Eden. a: June 16, 1983 Part 51 (Episode 126, Part 1) A hitchhiker comes to Eden. a: June 21, 1983 Part 52 (Episode 126, Part 2) Bryan's romance grows. a: June 23, 1983 Part 53 (Episode 127, Part 1) Biff gets punched. a: June 28, 1983 Part 54 (Episode 127, Part 2) Sweet Honey. a: June 30, 1983 Part 55 (Episode 128, Part 1) The big party. a: July 5, 1983 Part 56 (Episode 128, Part 2) An embarrassed Josh. a: July 7, 1983 Part 57 (Episode 129, Part 1) Greg and Lauren plan marriage. a: July 12, 1983 Part 58 (Episode 129, Part 2) A proposal for Francie. a: July 14, 1983 Part 59 (Episode 130, Part 1) A fair warning to Miranda. a: July 26, 1983 n: Final week airing at Tuesdays at 11:30 PM. Part 60 (Episode 130, Part 2) Shelley finds love. a: July 28, 1983 n: Final week airing on Thursdays at 11:30 PM. Part 61 (Episode 131, Part 1) Biff discovers Greg's lover. a: August 3, 1983 n: Aired Wednesday @ 1:00 AM Part 62 (Episode 131, Part 2) Betty in jeopardy. a: August 5, 1983 n: Aired Friday @ 1:30 AM Part 63 (Episode 132, Part 1) Miranda and Biff become allies. a: August 10, 1983 n: Aired Wednesday @ 1:30 AM Part 64 (Episode 132, Part 2) Betty raped. a: August 12, 1983 n: Aired Friday @ 1:30 AM Part 65 (Episode 133, Part 1) Francie uncovers Hud's secret. a: August 17, 1983 n: Aired Wednesday @ 1:30 AM Part 66 (Episode 133, Part 2) Eden's sin is revealed. a: August 19, 1983 n: Aired Friday @ 1:00 AM

I think there might be a second 'Love of Life' novelisation a few years later. I cannot remember the plot but I think it involves a kidnapping.

These were neat. I think Paul Lukather is wearing the shirt he was wearing in the pic with Susan Brown (in the matching shirt). Considine's character sounds interesting. He is described as a loner. I think I read he was the father of Ann's baby in an article on soaps from the 1970s.

Thanks. Some of these sound so interesting and some sound boring.

Danny Martin was introduced in August 1981 during the strike. He was involved with Althea's mysterious hit and run patient, Robin. Althea and Danny, an orderly, both took a shine to the young girl. Danny snuck her out to a carnival and later they ran away when it looked like Robin might be hurt by Sebastian, the drug dealer Jerry Dancy was involved with in Tokyo. Sebastian had killed Robin's mother and he feared she might rat him out. Sebastian kidnapped Danny and Robin, a fire ensued, and the two nearly died. Robin later faded from the story and Danny returned to his position at the hospital. Natalie came to work there in November 1981 so I assume that's how Danny-Natalie became friends. When Lemay began, Danny was defending Natalie to Nola, who didn't like her brother's relationship with Natalie. Danny wasn't killed off during the plague storyline. He can be seen in the final episode. He tells off one of the nurses who had been trying to use him. Danny dated Kit McCormack briefly when she arrived on the scene and was later involved with sexy nurse Hollis, who also went after Mike Powers.

Wow. I don't think I knew about any of this. This sounds like a fascinating plot. It's a shame YDM didn't last longer.

Saynotoursoap, thank you for posting the Christmas 1981 credits on youtube. It was nice to know I wasn't insane about Aaron Scott and Ann Marie Barlow penning the episode. As always, you youtube channel is such a treasure to those of us who weren't around to experience the golden era of soaps.

Carl, Loretta remained on the show until the end. In one of the show's final stories, Elizabeth Rainey spread rumors around Northcross College that Loretta and Julian were having an affair because Julian's wife, Mary, was busy tending to their young son Daniel. FrenchFan provided a recap of the final months from the show's conclusion on page 3 or 4 of this thread. It's definitely worth looking back on. I don't believe Tony Monroe or Ruth Monroe were on very long. Christine would eventually be pulled into the triangle with Alison and Hugh Jessup that went on for some time before becoming involved in another triangle with John Rainey and Adrienne Harris. IMDb says Meg Myles was there until 1971, which I assume means she left when the Steve amnesia / Ellie Jardin murder plot came to its conclusion. Osterwald's Stella was never a major player, but Wesley Hyatt says she was shipped out of town in 1972 when Osterwald joined 'Bridget loves Bernie.' Ben Jessup's son Hugh was a major player so he was around for some time. His wife Ruth Jessup was supposedly a snob who looked down on the relationship between her son and Christine Cameron as well as being mortified to having a grandchild who was born out of wedlock.

Finally got the chance to watch the episode saynotoursoap posted. I was surprised to see it was credited to Ralph Ellis. I had thought Nixon had lasted until the summer of 1987, but I guess I was wrong. Does anyone know when Ellis arrived? I thought the opening teaser with Lottie in the car was effective played to the tune of 'Why Do Fools Fall in Love.' I also liked the use of Chris de Burgh's 'Lady in Red' at the Rescott home, a set I don't believe I'd seen before. I know SoapNet always claimed it avoided 'Santa Barbara' and later 'Ryan's Hope' because of music rights. I wonder if 'Loving' presented a similar situation? Eban Japes seemed very different in this clip from the man who was threatening to ruin Lottie / Curtis' wedding in the promos and later shot up Steve and Trisha's wedding. Was this a Friday episode? Tony had been working as Alden handyman and was suddenly unmasked as a doctor. I can just see the dollar signs in Ava's eyes as I type this. BTW, I thought the stuff with Ava and the Corinth Arms was awkward in the way Ben / Marina would have awkward conversations about money on 'Guiding Light.' I didn't think it seemed realistic, but maybe others would disagree. Regarding turnover, a year from this episode only Trisha, Ava, and Kate would still be around.

Slide one is labelled Wendy Barry on eBay. I think this is accurate. People's Magazine has there back issues available for download and Barry is featured in the cast shot along with Steve Carlson, Ann Wilkinson, Jim McMullan, Maggie Sullivan, and Jack Wagner. Barry had dark hair and similar facial features to the actress in the shot. This appears to be the same actress and actor pictured in the March Showtime promo Carl posted in the March 1983 cable article thread. I assume this means the pair is Grant Wilson and Wendy Barry. IMDb states Barry played Shelley Novack and Wilson played Biff Lewis. I'm pretty sure Grant Wilson is the blonde even though we cannot see his face. However, since information is so scarce and the People's picture doesn't give a good look of Wendy Barry's face, I'm beginning to wonder if it isn't Biff and Francie since Francie / Biff were a couple. IMDb lists Dana Halstad as playing Francie. In the second slide, eBay says it is Jane Elliott and Wendy Barry. I think this is wrong. I suspect this set is Cronies, the bar where the younger characters hung out. Based on the article you posted, I would say Ann Wilkinson is the blonde. This is labelled Nov 1982, which is when it premiered on Showtime. I think this might be Anne Lockhart. I've tried to find pictures of her from this period and there is a bit of a resemblance. If that's the case, the first slide was used to preview the first set of episodes as Lockhart was quickly killed off.

FrenchFan, do you have a headwriters / ep list for Loving? That's another one that's shaky.

Regarding Levin, she was definitely there in the fall of 1981 after the strike ended. Several episodes appeared on WoST from this period and I know at least one was credited to her. I thought, however, that Konners returned from the strike, but I think I'm wrong. Also, there is an article from 1984 talking about Elizabeth Levin's play 'The Female Entertainer,' in which she says she left 'The Doctors' abruptly over a script. I think this si the second time because the Christmas 1981 episode is credited to Aaron Scott and Ann Marie Barlow. I suspect Scott & Barlow kept the show going between Levin's abrupt departure and Lemay's first episodes. This would explain why Levin is listed as the new writer in an issue giving previews for the new year. Lemay may not have been hired in time. I think it looks like this: Lawrence & Ronnie Wencker-Konner (Jan. 81 - May 81) No writers credited (June - Aug. 1981) Elizabeth Levin (Sept. 81 - Dec. 81) Aaron Scott & Anne-Marie Barlow (Dec. 1981) Harding Lemay (Dec. 81 - June 82)

I've seen McMillan listed in LaGuardia's Soap World as Jim Crawford. McMillan later appeared on 'Ryan's Hope' as Charlie Ferris, one of the party leaders who supported Frank.