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Who was that actor again? I remember watching that and found his heavy (possibly German?) accent strange to listen for John Abbott. The funny thing is nowhere as far as I know is that actor credited for playing John!

This is strange, the 25th Anniversary book mentions him in that role of Joseph Thomas from 1979-1980 yet nothing is listed for that character as far as I can tell in the synopsises I have for 1979 and there was definitely no cross connection between Jill, Nikki, and Casey at all as Jill was the midst of the entire Stuart/Derek/Katherine/Suzanne mess while Nikki was working for Rose and Casey seeing Lucas and being uncomfortable sexually. I wonder who wrote that fiction? 🙈 A 1993 Chicago Tribune interview they did with Quinn Redeker makes it sound like his earliest appearance on the show came sometime in 1973.

The break in soaps has made it even worse too as a lot of posters quit for good knowing these shows were not worth returning to especially on CBS.

It really did change Jill as well as the opinion of her at Jabot. I remember watching Joanna trying to make friends with her initially yet I know by 88 at least John & Ashley had grown a lot of respect for Jill. One of my fav moments for Katherine & Jill in ‘91 comes when Jill fears Katherine is drinking again over Rex dating Leanna while Kay fears Jill has set herself up to fail by tying to date John. In a way I wish we did see a bit more of Katherine/Rex/Jill as more of an update as Rex really loved the both of them and they loved Rex the same way back. Although I wasn’t a fan of John & Jill’s 90’s marriage, personally I will she did better than John Abbott & the first Keith Dennison. It’s strange because I almost think Porter was along a lot longer I have seen a few ‘86 articles of where Lester from fall of 86 gets always called “ex-Jack”. Then again aside from Ashley’s abortion Y&R’s history in the fall of 1986 is barely spoken of. Nothing of Dina’s exit or Marc’s return, barely anything about Jason & Molly’’s resolution, we know Neil Fenmore died in the fall but seems to barely phase Lauren, and nothing about Diane Jenkins falling in love with Genoa City Chronicle publisher Gary Thompson was ever brought up again too much. 🤔

Nailed it on the both accounts! I’m glad Jess took over when she did as well. That said I always found it fascinating the show allowed Jill’s victory lap at Jabot to happen after the divorce settlement. On any other soap we would have see Jill fail miserably as a comeuppance yet Bell allowed Jill to flourish at Jabot and later Newman as a surprisingly successful businesswoman. Plus rewatching the 1990-1994 Jill/Katherine stuff is so much fun as the two kind of care about each other yet hate each other’s guts at the same time I don’t think BD could have pulled it off as well.

Thanks! As much as I love Jess there’s always something dynamic I love about Brenda. Actually, I love all the actresses who played Jill from what I’ve seen and was glad to finally see Bond Gideon as Jill a couple years back as well I was surprised that Gideon actually didn’t last longer.

Did Cooper ever talk about Dickson? I had wondered what her thoughts were. I’ve never heard Dickson ever mention Cooper either, other than the anecdote about Dickson thinking Cooper had been dead for several years when Cooper did pass away in 2013.

ET ran this over their weekend addition about Boseman and Jordan being close friends going back to the AMC days: https://www.etonline.com/inside-chadwick-bosemans-friendship-with-michael-b-jordan-152232

Haha Bell & Co. used a lot of old film noir slang for their crime/mystery plots. I always smirked whenever Clint Radison or David Kimble would call Katherine & Jill “old broads”.

LOL @Vee MAB & Co. never ever had an original thought ever! Almost all of her stories were redos and ripoffs from previous Y&R stories, while Sheffer recycled his trashy ATWT and Days stories while Hamner(he did not inherit his father Earl Jr.'s talent at all!) borrowed elements from movies and primetime. In addition to the above, I seem to recall Cane/Caleb's death was ripoffed from The Untouchables, Kevin and Chloe's courtship was a blatant ripoff from Pretty in Pink(they even called themselves Andie and Duckie!) and Victor and Genevieve were originally planned to do An Affair to Remember before it was thrown out last minute. Perhaps the only original story the three of them told was the volcano story. It also probably remains the worst story ever screened on Y&R.

Speaking of Jill and Nikki I don’t even recall the two interacting even when Jill had her fling with Victor or when the two had a quasi triangle involving Jed Sanders in 1994. Oddly after Victor’s shooting in 1996 we did have Nikki randomly threaten Christine over her growing friendship with Victor.

May seem strange but I did once outline my own fictional soap opera almost twenty years ago that I’ll always call “Love at Large” set in San Francisco Bay Area about two families, the old money Weaver’s who own “Hyde & Weaver” Department Stores (Think Lord & Taylor, Nordstrom) and the nouveau-riche Colton family who own Colton’s Discount Stores (something along the lines of K-Mart or Target of course) with various characters peppered in. A lot of my inspiration at the came from a mix of Y&R, B&B and yes Sunset Beach at the time but I was hoping for a more conventional soap. The title I remember I came up with I remember thinking as “At Large” being original in the political sense as being “as a whole, general” but then I later found out a trashy 1990 movie with Annette O’Toole and Kate Capshaw used the same title in the criminal sense. Sheesh! Haha if anyone wants exact details I’ll share, I was pretty bored at the time. 🙃

Definitely agree, Marc was a Dynasty like character, I suppose it was because he was suppose to be some fancy rich European ex-pat. I think there was a break in between Marc’s stints, he came back to romance Joanna if I recall right but I don’t know why Bell even thought to bring him back as I believe Dina was leaving out in 1986 or so. There was a sister named Danielle Mergeron but I don’t think she ever appeared on screen or if she did it was just a very brief appearance with no story.

Dang, I really miss that era of the show as well! It was fun and entertaining then with occasional groaners (The Massimo twist, how many miscarriages and pill addiction stories did Amber have for Emmy reel week?!) but at least there was actual sustained storyline that mattered and there was progress for the most part.

Haha I have that book and I know there’s a couple glaring omissions(for example Jason Carter nor Molly Stark are not listed despite having a minor D-story in 1986) and as you mentioned several of the dates are wayyyyyy off. But it is pretty comprehensive overall for the first 25 years! My Most Memorable Moments book’s cast list is just as bad, it doesn’t even list Bond Gideon for Jill nor have all the Greg’s listed LOL.

B&B is probably the KING of this topic lol. That said here’s a couple others: ATWT’s Bob has daughters Frannie & Sabrina with sisters Kim & Jennifer. Later on John both fathered a son with Kim and then later with her niece Barbara, although their son died not long afterward. GL’s Beth had children by both Alan and Phillip. Other than Sharon’s pregnancy & miscarriage with Dylan I can’t think of anything for Y&R off the top of my head.

Oddly enough Lisa Mansfield was in the opening credits as was both David and then Mari Jo later on. I think Sheila deserved a spot too lol. The 1999-03 opening credits had some glaring omissions as well, even when they first rolled it out.

At least from what I felt from Y&R’s classics was at least the actors themselves had a hand in picking episodes. That Victor & Nikki week definitely had some unusual choices with but I sincerely got the feeling EB & MTS had personally handpicked the eps themselves. Thudley can go kick rocks tbh. Thank you! A virtual classroom for the first two weeks and then possibly 1-2 days a week of some form of face to to face interaction with students after Labor Day but it is all subject to chance asterisks and all.

Haha or Thudley putting his hand in the cookie jar for his own choices. Keep us up to date! It figures with our school slowly reopening up Y&R would start airing new episodes the same day I go back into work, been the longest Spring Break ever.....

It is for the best. Same with 2011 and 2015 lol! Wow guess I hadn’t realized they hadn’t even touched 1995 yet. I’d say from that year Adam’s birth, Lily’s birth, Jill paying Mamie money to leave town, Matt’s shooting, Nathan’s affair and the chilling climax of the Blade/Rick reveal(Walton and Barton were brilliant!) would be highlights worth re-airing at least. The only ‘95 ep I know that has ever reaired was the Christmas ep that aired again on Christmas Day 2007. I wish we had seen more of ‘98 Y&R was definitely can’t miss that year.

I was wondering the same thing lol. I think I have seen part of that 1986 episode on your playlist @YRfan23 with that hilarious scene of the hypocritical church ladies threatening Mary they would ostracize the Williams family...my question is why were the old hags reading the Playgirl-esque magazine anyways? 🤣

Thanks for sharing! I wonder what the 1986 ep is. The 1992 episode is the infamous Sheila & Lauren farmhouse fire episode. I know the 2004 ep is when Nikki and Sharon went into the sewers looking for Cameron’s body that Larry told them he dumped down there. 😁

Subjective is right indeed! I think back to that Victor & Nikki week back in May while it was an unusual set of eps that aired that week I mean we saw Vanessa Prentiss scheming in the midst of it all yet I truly got the sense the eps were handpicked by EB and MTS themselves as their favorite Victor & Nikki moments of all time, which made it even feel more endearing too. While I want to see so much more all over again, I won’t forget that Y&R did go out of its way to dig into their library to bring out some great classics, even if they didn’t make sense or not lol(Nick & Sharon’s 2001 Arabian Nights date ep was so minuscule to everything else going on in that ep 🙂)

This! This has turned into the longest spring break ever for myself and I don’t know what this fall will bring. I have been so happy to episodes & moments again in years I haven’t seen, thrilled to finally see certain moments, and even learn new things along the way with Y&R which will always be my fave (with ATWT & GL tied at number two lol) I really wish both Y&R and B&B would have consider at least cutting a day to air classic episodes instead a for awhile as they returned to filming.

I Jill’s big Sunday hat at Neil & Dru’s reception.