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People love to clown on ol' Guy Wilson and pretend Chandler is cruising for a primetime Emmy any time soon, but those scenes with GW and Paul where Paul basically seduced him were practically R-rated without any clothes off. I had not seen DAYS that intensely horny since the '90s. Ron may want to do the kind of love scenes he did with the gays on OLTL, but since the blowback from that show I think he has settled himself to doing queeny camp and gags for the gays to play to the online audience which laps it up vs. anything truly intimate or serious. While it's the ostensibly str8 leading men who are regularly objectified and fetishized exclusively instead. And that's a problem. It may be what he thinks he can get away with with the remaining audience, but that does not make it right.

Lenz was not on for one day. She had a prominent role in a major story and both the magazines and fans had enough time to take notice in print back then, without much Internet. There are many other short-termers who have been given contract roles over the last 50+ years. I can go on as long as you'd like.

I think I remember being surprised by the VM cameo in 2000. I honestly don't recall. Last time I remember being totally surprised was the supposed permanent death of Taylor on B&B in the 2000s(?) and her subsequent surprise resurrection. Oh wait, no, that's not true - Ron and Frank surprised me (and I think a lot of other people) when they brought back Ian Buchanan as "Duke" (a.k.a. Faison as Duke) in 2012 on GH at the end of a week, showing him to be behind Robin's kidnapping. I don't believe there was any advance word at all.

I don't think it closes the door. No one would blink twice if Hartley or Garita returned in a permanent role. Chloe Lanier started out on this show as Young Pat Spencer, which got her Nelle not long after due to fans loving her performance. It's also a time-honored soap tradition, with one of the most prominent examples being Bethany Joy Lenz from GL - hired to play young Clone Reva, and was so good they made her Michelle Bauer, who became part of a major couple.

It's what I always assumed too.

Let's not!

I don't care for the weird character to begin with or anything connected to them.

Meanwhile:

I've just never liked Bonnie and never will.

I suspect Ron always intended to probably pull a Gigi/Stacey from OLTL on her someday and resurrect Adrienne. He may still do so, but for now Bonnie, like most broad characters he goes all in on, is 'too much fun' for him to stop and it's gotten away from him. He always waits too long.

The mainstream media has many problems, but no one outside of FOX in the mainstream is going to be pushing that line.

It definitely was a wilder and often sillier show as it drifted from Marland to PFS to the others, from what I've seen. I enjoy a lot of the action-adventure and sweeping action-romance, and I think they wove the older characters in well for a long time, but I also don't think the Alan/Monica/Rick/Lesley quad or the original Heather, Diana Taylor, etc. psychodrama can easily be topped.

On the podcast he does essentially go on to say that Monty felt the WGA would frown on his and Laiman being named HWs or being too visible, and so kept their names lower-profile. So there's that. Whether that's credible or not I leave to others.

I guess it's partly a question of how far back did they know the WGA strike was going to happen, and what are the exact dates? I thought it was only 3 months. Racina has always said he was approached because Jackie Smith and Monty knew the strike would come. Of course, part of this is all the fog of war, and possibly people embellishing their resumes.

That's my suspicion. Likely it was a multi-HW team. I've gone back digging into an interview he did with DC in 2015 about it. He also goes so far as to say he was 'involved already' at the time of the Wyndham's department store stuff in... summer? '80, which is news to me.

It's odd, because he seems pretty clear about being there til '84 or so. Maybe it had to do with him being on staff during the strike.

When exactly did Thom Racina officially take over in '81 during the strike? Wikipedia is less than helpful on this, citing the Corringtons replacing him in '82 but I believe Racina has said repeatedly he was at GH til '84 and it was certainly my impression he had an extensive run.

I believe a lot of that material is on YT re: Heather's LSD trip. I don't know how much though. I do know a flashback of some of it plays here.

Wonderful news. Meanwhile, I always liked Tinashe.

A really good scene with Alexis and Ava about Julian from early last year, encapsulating the relationship - the kicker is the end. I'd never seen this before. Maura is seriously camping it up in high form, but that's what she's good at in this role, and it plays well with NLG. This is the most use I've had for Alexis, who's seemed very tired for a very long time, in awhile and Nancy (who I also had my fill of some time ago) was very good.

I'm excited about this specifically because it's the return of the great Adrien Lyne, master of the erotic thriller in the '80s and '90s (and 2000s, with Unfaithful). Nobody could film tactility and desire like him. I hope it works out. I had no idea it was a Highsmith adaptation.

I could've sworn that originally they'd intended for Gus to be Rita Stapleton's, and for Jonathan to be Reva's stalker. IIRC GL went through several iterations of trying to bring Jonathan on as an adult over multiple regimes (including Sandy "the Mole" who didn't work out/wasn't interesting enough, which is how Sandy became an imposter) before settling on Tom Pelphrey and introducing him as the genuine article.

Eccleston speaks re: returning, a bit differently than the usual: With video: