Everything posted by Vee
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GH: Classic Thread
Supposedly he gave her the opportunity to sleep with him 'willingly,' or never walk the island freely outside of solitary confinement. But let's not kid ourselves: That's rape. That aside, there's also nothing about the way either Stavros was presented in the '80s or 2000s that indicated this was a man who didn't actively get violent with her. I'm sure he got violent and took her without that supposed 'consent' as well.
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Y&R April 2022 Discussion Thread
The dialogue in these Newman family scenes a few days ago is incredibly vague, bland and nondescript. "I thought Ashland left peacefully!" "I think [whoever wrecked this painting] was in a lot of pain." "Vic is a strong, proud woman." "What could have made her do this?" It's like they're talking about an acquaintance. There is no character to these characters, just expository detail.
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Days of Our Lives: April 2022 Discussion Thread
It's Ron getting to do what he wanted to do with Franco on GH. He had wanted Roger Howarth's Franco to whisper in Carly's ear (I think) and reveal he had Michael raped after all when the Carly/Franco pairing went south, but got vetoed either by the network on Frank Valentini. When a character doesn't take, he tries to burn them down or enrage the audience or both.
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The Politics Thread
Perhaps some good news. (Warning: Politico)
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RIP Lisa Brown
Oh, that's very classy.
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GH: Wally Kurth previews 22 April episode
He's fine on GH!
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Y&R April 2022 Discussion Thread
As we've said before: Everything happening with this show lately is real strange in terms of a series of major shifts.
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ARTICLE: CNN+ to Shut Down, Service Had Upwards of 150,000 Subscribers
Bye!
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The Media/Journalism Thread
Oy gevalt.
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The Spin Off Thread
God, the hick guy from Boston Common who lost his mind doing Yes Dear. I remember him. I liked Boston Common! But not necessarily him. I remember Liza Snyder on Yes Dear from the not very good Christina Applegate show Jesse. Christina and Bruno Campos were the only really good things about it. I'm not sure what happened to Campos though he did turn up on nip/tuck as the Carver. Snyder annoyed me back then too.
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The Spin Off Thread
You may be right, though he did both on TP.
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The Spin Off Thread
I can't totally hate According to Jim, though. It gave Melrose's own beloved Courtney Thorne-Smith another umpteen years of solid employment, and Jim Belushi did go on to do great work on Twin Peaks. I could swear I remember the cast or maybe just the lead of Yes Dear losing their shít and openly sparring with the critics who loathed them in print, lol.
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The Spin Off Thread
Which became such a subgenre by the time of "Kevin Can Wait" that it led to the AMC dramedy "Kevin Can F**k Himself", which is doing two seasons. I personally don't think that project sounds like a work of heartbreaking genius, or something that needs to be more than a one-off episode on some other show or anthology, but it does have a point to make about that schlock.
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The Spin Off Thread
In the 2000s TV critics acted like Patricia Heaton was Lucille Ball, Mary Tyler Moore and Roseanne rolled into one. I'm fairly certain I am not exaggerating this. The way they went on about her for endless column lengths in print you'd think she invented situation comedy and would reign until the end of broadcast. Everybody Loves Raymond was treated like it was the heir to all the great sitcoms and a legend in its own time. Now no one remembers the show, as far as I can tell anyway, and Heaton is all but a footnote. Baffling. Whatever LBT's flaws, and I'm sure there are many just based on the work I watched back in the day and have been recently, I think it's still a tremendous loss to CBS and to television in general to lose that very unique and singular female creative voice. We talked about it when her Moonves story first came out, how he blackballed her, and how that went hand in hand with the systematic deconstruction of all the female-centric programming at the network, which has had a cascading effect across network TV in general since. Today sites like Vulture, etc. rush to crown every new diverse or non-male voice that comes through the door as the next big TV/streaming auteur, hoping to remake the balance in record time, but few of them last long or have anything truly original to say. People like the Bloodworth-Thomasons did and they don't come along every day, even though we're constantly breathlessly told now they are right as their 13-episode orders are wrapping up and their shows are already burning out before the ends of seasons 1 or 2. That's not to say there aren't many of those new, more diverse voices who can last and stand the test of time, too. But I do think we should treasure what we have, or had.
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The Spin Off Thread
Oh, now I'm intrigued. I'll give it a shot. I did read up on the Hagerty/Mahaffey thing and it is extremely bizarre. They originally wanted Hagerty, she wasn't available, so they recast, then brought her back, then dumped her again for the recast??
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The Media/Journalism Thread
A lot of the talent worshipped Zucker and believed he was a genius. They still do. They were shocked and hurt by the public reaction to his firing and disgrace. I'll enjoy 'media reporter' Brian Stelter, who never reports on media scandals at CNN or about his friends until there's literally no other option, tapdancing around this fiasco for another several weeks. He also has a show on CNN+ I believe.
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ARTICLE: Peacock Orders Second Chapter of ‘Days of our Lives: Beyond Salem,’ Kristian Alfonso and Peter Reckell to Reprise Roles
I don't fault you for feeling that way. But I also can't honestly say that if they decided to go whole hog, like Agnes and her proteges did at AMC, and like Frank and Ron had planned to do with many characters on GH in 2012 had the show been cancelled that year - if they did what @Bright Eyesjust suggested, going so far as to resurrect everyone from Bill and Laura to David Banning, presumably as part of yet another labyrinthian DiMera scheme against the people of Salem - and then used all that to reset the entire show, revamp the entire canvas and tone, and have these elder and veteran adult characters back as part of the foundation on a more mature DAYS with less fantasy: Would that be so bad? IMO, it worked for AMC.
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The Media/Journalism Thread
Doesn't surprise me at all, tbh. It was Zucker's brainchild.
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ARTICLE: Peacock Orders Second Chapter of ‘Days of our Lives: Beyond Salem,’ Kristian Alfonso and Peter Reckell to Reprise Roles
My assumption is that Bo being back and their being off together is the perfect vehicle to keep Hope off-contract and largely offscreen except for any return engagements KA might entertain in future. It's the only good excuse and it worked well for Sami and E.J. when he was finally resurrected but they hadn't yet recast.
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ARTICLE: Peacock Orders Second Chapter of ‘Days of our Lives: Beyond Salem,’ Kristian Alfonso and Peter Reckell to Reprise Roles
I seriously doubt they are promoting a spinoff with Bo and Hope as the stars only for it turn out the incredibly popular supercouple lead is still dead.
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General Hospital: April 2022 Discussion Thread
A long history but nothing of actual value. Jordan has always been a very weak utility player of a character only somewhat enlivened by the talented and sparkling Vinessa Antoine. And I don't believe for a second Teschner has done most of the casting since 2012. I think a lot of it has smacked of Frank's heavy hand (which he wielded a lot at OLTL), with a few exceptions.
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The Media/Journalism Thread
Another for the "Who Could Have Predicted" file:
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ALL: Soap Stars - Where are they now?
I briefly thought Chris McKenna had suddenly aged about five years, but checked his social media and thrillingly he has not (he is doing PassionFlix though, @DRW50 in addition to his more esteemed recent works).
- General Hospital: April 2022 Discussion Thread
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ARTICLE: Peacock Orders Second Chapter of ‘Days of our Lives: Beyond Salem,’ Kristian Alfonso and Peter Reckell to Reprise Roles
I don't buy Kayla lying about it (unless Bo was under some extreme life and death mess). I can buy someone conning her. I respect people's feelings about the cheapening of death on soap operas (which is probably why the X-Men comics at Marvel have now made them functionally immortal, to subvert the cheap shock deaths that constantly recycle themselves in that industry). But I think it's a case by case and show by show issue. With AMC, as campy as aspects of that network finale arc got, it was apparently in full accordance with Agnes Nixon's wishes and creative consultation re: story points and deaths she personally wanted to undo. I can't fault that, but I know some people felt Orpheus was too much. To me it was a device for a redress of fundamental errors, to reset the show for the future. YMMV, but that's fair enough.