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That's 100% what's happened to a segment of their audience and it's why they now write Carly the way they do, long after the Guza team is largely gone. They are both afraid to do anything else and don't want to. But most of the Guza team (minus Liz Korte, who's still there) knew how to write Carly ugly and go for the throat, right to the end. As I've said before, they were not averse to writing Laura's Carly as hard, cold and ugly to the wrong people/heroic protagonists - and Laura played it very, very well. When Carly had a vendetta, even in her later dotage with Jax and the kids, the money and the beautiful yellow house, you knew LW's Carly could still make it her mission in life for all the wrong reasons. Yes, she's been overpropped and over-indulged since at least near the end of Sarah's run but they didn't have to lay out nearly as many hosannas to Carly's kindness and greatness until this show became Frank's house and only Frank's. Until I'd say the mid-2010s they were still able to allow Carly to sometimes be two things. I will admit to being pleasantly surprised how central and intimate they've allowed Spencer and Trina to be lately. That doesn't mean it should've taken this long. They are definitely still trying to play them and Dex/Joss for equal time though.

Frank has made it pretty clear they focus on "certain parts of social media" and not others - the message I took from that is, we're focusing on our perception of what we believe to be a white, red state Facebook audience and Twitter can take what we give them.

Not necessarily. The profile I posted up top indicates he is highly susceptible to fame and flattery, and kowtows to those he considers to be big names in Hollywood. But you're right that there is a sustained cultural movement Trump was the flashpoint for, and while we've made some gains it's going to be a long road continuing to fight it off.

A statement from the filmmakers:

Different rules, double standard. Older audiences love Sonny and Jason so they accept it. You can have an aging, cranky 'good' mobster but not major story for gays, bigger Black story, extramarital affairs, abortion, etc.

Zaslav is also a starfucker, so this move by the big guns may have real impact on him.

It was such horrifying yet typical Zaslav/WBD news. The Indiewire article at least is encouraging in that Spielberg, Scorsese, etc. are putting pressure on the company over this move. I know @DRW50 will want to know too. I also left TCM behind for the Criterion Channel when I cut the cord but I adore the network and always will. My family does too. Whenever I am home with the family or do have access to TCM again though, I've always done this just like Scorsese: Now trending: #SaveTCM

It's that time again, @DRW50

Cameron's future on this show lasts as long as it takes for Frank to either find another hunk from soaps past or come to terms with Steve Burton, which I still wish they wouldn't do but they totally will sooner or later.

I keep forgetting old-ass Reva had another child until I see her with that little boy at the very end each time. I remember this! How did they sneak up on them?? I count 10 people minimum not adding the stroller! It's always astonishing to watch every time I go back. I think it was @Khan who once bemoaned the fact that in Peapack they held a Spaulding press conference in the middle of a vacant field with some lawn chairs on the grass. There also used to be a whole lot of people just wandering on the side of the road lmao. Like drifters.

Just give Corday a weekly feature in SOD lol. "Ken's Korner" where each week he contradicts himself and has a new Plan to Save Days.

Son of a bitch!!!! They did this the whole episode!! Just wandering from place to place!! There is a minimum of 15 people here! lmao I legit thought so. it was definitely a final episode. I think it is partly all of the above, but also the overriding need to coddle what they feel is a predominantly conservative older audience from FB, old media, etc. They worry about anything too edgy or current and water down all content based on that, they're trying to preserve what little margin they have of viewership numbers. Babies both eat into long story time and are promoting baseline conservative/Facebook mom or grandma values, so everyone gets a baby or wants a baby or is looking for their lost baby, and nothing too dangerous is played for too long. That's why it's the most easily approved story for cruising creatives who are just trying to mark time.

I think it has to do with crew respecting the picket lines/boundaries during the shoot.

I tried to find a picture of the worst moment of all from that finale, the whole repeated interlude where the ENTIRE FÙCKING TOWN roamed the streets together like some sort of Mormon flash mob, trying to chase after Remy and whatserface (Karla Mosley) to help them get married, and then to 'play a prank' on Frank and Blake who were meeting up for an Internet date, and then to race to get to Daisy/Susan, I think? before she left town? It seemed like they did it all because they couldn't afford to use interiors anymore so everyone just kept roaming through the streets and parks of Peapack picking up more and more of the cast. It was like a zombie horde.

They've had that weird 'sinister' redneck country twang cue they've been playing for at least 20 years - it's like, a sinister harmonica lol. It uses to drive me up the wall when they would attempt half-decent stories at a few points over the years (the early Sheffer regime, the McPherson/Thomas stuff) and anything good would be undermined by the cheesy DAYS production house style of weird flashbacks and lighting and that fùcking country music cue. idk if they still use it. Oh sweet lord.

Murphy is of course denying it to The Wrap:

Yes, which is utterly insane. She shouldn't have one!

Nope! But now she can never die.

Yeah, it is being widely reported around NYC that AHS is definitely filming, so I don't think Leight was telling tales out of school.

Yep. It all goes back to what we said before: There are so many fuckin' kids on this show, now approaching/in teen years that it is a massive traffic jam with the actual youth set not to mention the many other pointless characters and stories mentioned.

Completely unsurprising to anyone who has known Ryan Murphy to be nihilistic self-loathing scum for decades. @DRW50

I'd sooner believe in Christ's return than a more progressive Democrat beating Manchin and keeping WV for the Dems, unfortunately.

Darn and I regularly mistake Scout and Avery/Donna for each other.