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From April 26, 1985 Rachel and Peter ?!? Now that was a long forgotten thread. It seems like an attempt to keep Rachel and Mac in the mix with the Love Family. However, it really makes Rachel quite a cougar considering that Peter dated Sally and Cecile the prior year.

I'm reading the introduction of Sierra on Tumblr from 1985. In retrospect, it doesn't make much sense that Lucinda adopted Lily after abandoning Sierra. Please feel free to correct, but I seem to recall that Lily's adoption was motivated by either the desire to create an heir for Martin Guest, or just to solidify their relationship. But, why not just go back to South America and use Sierra for those purposes? The wiki said that Sierra's father forbid Lucinda from seeing her, but it was also established that Sierra thought of Lucinda as her godmother and they had maintained a relationship. Given that Sierra was probably only a few years older than Lily, and Lucinda was wealthy after her marriage to Martin, it seems entirely possible that Lucinda could have hired someone to go get Sierra when she was much younger rather than waiting for a coup. Obviously, Sierra, and later Bianca, were created for storyline purposes, but the logic doesn't really hold together very well when read back 37 years later.

I was listening to the podcast You Must Remember This series on old school gossip columnists Louella Parsons and Hedda Hopper and it reminds me of Nelson Bronco, Carolyn Hinsey, and their generation of soap "journalism." Much like Louella and Hedda, they maintained an old school reverence for the genre, never peered too deeply into the private lives of celebrities who actively worked with them to provide quotes, and rarely cited multiple sources. And just like those old queens of gossip they were titillated by anyone who teased, but too horrified by actual sex. They would never dare tell the real stories of "me too" situations, salary disparities, or other humiliations that working actors faced in daytime in order to maintain the fantasy that soaps were filled with hopeful newcomers greatful for adoration. Sadly, their tales directly from the mouths of angry actors have become soap opera lore. They never gave context to their stories, choosing to favor those who made them feel worthy by answering their phone calls. They were like the sad kids in high school who were blindly loyal to the popular crowd as long as they threw them some crumbs of attention. I remember Hinsey's poorly edited book where she mostly republished old columns and continued to use unnamed sources years after the events no longer mattered. She had obviously witnessed many juicy backstage stories, but even after the cancellation of half of the shows in daytime she spent pages on how soaps could better use product integration to lure more advertising, as if her readers actually cared about her ideas of how to improve ratings. Even this tweet is still about the audacity of a disrespectful actor, as opposed to having any perspective about a man with a disease who was unable to control his impulses in front of his co-workers. As if we should be giddy with anticipation about the revelation of this secret, versus having learned some compassion about what it must be like to age in a genre that only awards youth. I am hopeful that actual fan discussions on this board allow for more complexity. I have read respectful and insightful reviews from fans of old and new soaps. I am glad that the discourse of soap fandom has moved beyond reductive blaming of single producers or network executives to be able to write about what we liked as viewers rather than playing "pretend producer." Of course, there are still some content providers who write reviews using gender or sexual stereotypes. But, there are also people everyday to fight back against bashing people in the industry who happen to be female or gay, and being grateful for the representation of women and LGBTQIA members in status positions of soap operas, because we recognize that no other part of the entertainment industry is as diverse as daytime.

I thought it was interesting that what lured Gottlieb to daytime was the promise of control over the story. Every fan who reductively blames certain producers and writers for undesirable plots in daytime should listen to this story. I was just reading about the development of Dirty Dancing from the original material to the screen. The studio's desire to add contemporary music and more dancing came at the expense of stories about class and sexual assault. So, it is interesting to hear that Gottlieb was willing to produce a genre that she had no reverence for in order to tell stories with less network interference. And even though she was promised independence, of course, nobody gets full control and that is what created the problem of how to continue to tell Todd's story without making him a hero.

To each their own, (and maybe this isn't a good photo), but this guy is no match for RDA Also, the only photo of Rick and Laura's wedding that I've ever seen Whereas, Cameron may have been an abusive creep, but he was a babe Leslie clearly had a thing for halo of flowers for her weddings Also, who was Kira Faulkner and how was she related to Cameron?

I think we can all agree of two things : (1) Jeff Webber was the hotter brother, (2) Jeff Webber had terrible luck in love (and an unusual attraction to women with mental illnesses). (from the classic GH tumblr) I started watching a few years later, so I have no memory of this rather odd story It brings back memories of other 1970s TV movies when writers were unable to distinguish between Schizophrenia and Dissociative Identity Disorder Also, a google search revealed that the only association to Breachman's Disease was that Lyme Disease was researched by a Dr Paul Breachman, but it does not appear to be a real thing (no surprise)

Can you remind me how Paul, Carly and Flynn exited Corrinth?

I was reading this on @will81 Tumblr Soaps of Yesteryear from April 1985 It it got me thinking of two things: 1. They should have used Maggie's time in New York to explain all of her retconned children, as it would have been more logical than someone else using her unsemenated frozen eggs for Daniel, (and however Summer was created). and 2. I know that Micky and Maggie were remarried in a double ceremony with Pete and Melissa. In the April 1985 plot summaries Melissa just found out that Ivy was pregnant with Pete's baby. So, when did Maggie return? Was she gone the entire time that Linda/Madame X was in town? And how quickly did she reunite with MIcky? Or, did she leave after the double wedding?

I agree that this plot should have been drawn out a bit more. It could've been used to create some genuine conflict with Fallon and Liam. The guy really had nothing to blackmail Fallon with, I mean what’s so wrong with paying for your husband’s best friend to come and visit? I thought he would have some information on the expansion, but it seems like that is a totally separate thread. I hope Blake isn’t doing anything to mess up Fallon’s company.

@slick jones Was Ellis Garrison the sister in law of Michael? Was the character imbued with Mitzi's charm? Also any info on the character of Larry on Falcon Crest played by Ernie Pysher? He was an actor so filled with charisma that it is a shame he didn't find greater success. Up thread someone had an update on him, but he is great one to play "who could've played it better" with.

What if it is My only quibble is the sitcom-like solutions at the end of every episode. It is inevitable that Liam and Fallon would squash their issue, but they will continue next week, so why write a resolve every week where suddenly they understand each others motives? Once again a shout out to the costume department. I laughed my ass off when Fallon responded to Blake's 911 call by changing her outfit to meet him at La Mirage, only to be repeated when Blake changed two minutes later to meet with Dominique. This is one Dynasty that has their fashion priorities in check.

Right, and I guess I forgot that John Allen Nelson when straight from EON to SB

I was just reading The Soaps of Yesterday tumblr about soap news from 1985 and it struck me that Larkin Malloy (Sky), Sharon Gabet (Raven), and Marcia Cross (Liz) were all cast on other soaps almost immediately after EON was cancelled. In fact, one story noted that Larkin started on GL the week after EON was cancelled. However, so many other talented actors faded into obscurity. Can anyone think of other cast members that found work in daytime in the first year after the cancellation?

It is April 1985 in the newest upload. JMR and LH are very annoyed that Michael Zaslow was written off OLTL because he was a good actor and they felt there was so much potential in his character. Hugo Napier became a US citizen and was then promptly fired from AMC. Denise Pense was let go from GL as Katie, just before her character's brother Floyd was arrested for murder. Lisa Brown is also leaving GL as Nola and Michael Tylo sounds pissed off that it meant Quint's exit as well. He suggests that GL kill off Nola and play stories of Quint as a widower, because "single parenthood is hot these days." https://thesoapsofyesterday-blog-blog.tumblr.com/ Meanwhile, we've got some filing to do... Filed under "temp recasts that I don't recall" Filed under "I told you so last week" Filed under "Lynda Hirsch continues to have the worst editor in newspaper history", in an answer to a question about Dynasty star Michael Praed they misspelled Ms. Hughes's first name and character Filed under - "Did this marriage ever happen?", right next to "Whatever happened to her?", but before "Remember when 'perennial bachelor' was a euphemism for gay?" Filed under @BoldRestless gets his answer And finally filed under "I wonder why DAYS doesn't use Maggie's time in New York to explain all of her retconned children?"

I was honestly entertained by reunion. Andy was clearly not a fan of the show, (not that he showed any disdain, I just think he didn't watch it weekly for 15 years), but he brought he charisma, uniqueness, nerve, and talent when asking intriguing questions. The set was beautiful. I thought the Kris Humprhey stuff was interesting, including how many of them thought it wouldn't work, and the idea that Kim didn't feel forced by production to get married, but she worried about the public perception of her not getting married. I thought the family openly discuss the struggles of who is more or less willing to discuss their lives on the show. They obviously felt a dynamic between wanting to make good TV, but not being willing to be judged. I always felt badly for Kim after the Paris robbery, especially remembering her thoughts about how her sisters would be traumatized by seeing her dead. However, I also really appreciated that she knew from the beginning that she was not interesting enough to carry a show and needed her sisters to help bring in some story. Kourtney, once again, demonstrated that she has experienced the least amount of emotional maturity amongst her sisters. She is a woman in her mid 40s, aging in Hollywood, and is still making faces and continuing the same judgements of others that she made in her 20s. One gets the sense that she has no time or space for self reflection. Unlike, Khloe who just doesn't seem very bright, Kourtney seems to have made a conscience descision not to develop over time.

Unlike other workplaces it continues to amaze how actors with bad reputations on one show found work on other daytime shows. Melanie's complaints about Beecroft were published at the time in SOD, but he still worked on several other shows after ATWT. Vigard's time on the show was characterized as "tumultuous" in the Tumblr articles after she left ATWT, but she still got a job on OLTL. I guess actors don't need letters of reference, but it never ceases to interest me that those who were perceived as difficult by their co-stars continued to book gigs.

It was Saturday night, so I guess that made it alright. In hindsight it is funny that Prince's lyrics were so obtuse that we just assumed he was using sexual allegories. However, did he really try to compare female reproductive organs to both little red corvettes and raspberry berets (or just the kind you find in a second hand store)? Meanwhile Purple Rain remains one of the most beautiful songs to me, both emotionally and harmonically, but I have no idea of the intended interpretation of the lyric.

One wonders, after watching so many of these reunions, how much insight the actors have into the production forces that guided the shows? So many of them tend to have focused on the drudgery of having to preform in five hours a week of soaps, that very few were aware or informed about what was happening in the writing and production offices. Learning that many scripts, as well as the egocentric qualities of most actors, generally means that those in front of the camera were more concerned about their own appearance and performance than they were about the inner workings of their show. That's why when actors are willing to discuss their relationship to other actors it is intriguing, but their opinions on writing and producing seem like supposition. One of the reasons many fans have negative views of certain producers, writers, and network executives comes from the interviews that actors gave after they were fired. However, just as most of us would experience in our own workplace environment, people who were fired are rarely reliable sources, or least they do not always reflect the majority opinions. For example, I am sure certain actresses were perfectly lovely to their fans, but if you were working on a show and a writer clearly found a muse in another actor or character, I think jealously would be a natural response. Alan's reunions remind me of Larry King's show on CNN. He was not the best prepared interviewer on TV, but he had access to people that nobody else could match. So, are there people who are more informed about ATWT history; of course. But, Alan was first to the plate and he gets the choice experiences.

I would hazard to guess that the renewal is more about the pandemic's effect on the inability to develop new programming rather than any perceived commitment from CBS to this particular show. Given that the panel has been decimated, there are few guests, and even fewer informational segments, the show is obviously on its last legs. However, there's nothing waiting in the proverbial wings to take its slot and even CBS wouldn't revert to form from the 80s and show primetime reruns in daytime. Does anyone else remember when One Day at a Time reruns were a staple of the daytime network schedule, rather than just on local or cable stations? In my experience podcasts have taken over the "diverse cast discussing pop culture" genre. The Talk was always hampered by the fact it wasn't live, so they were never responding in a timely manor to the day's events. More 18-24 year olds undoubtedly listen to daily pop culture podcasts than would watch a one hour show with commercials in the morning. And the current cast brings nothing in terms of humor, charm, or expertise to entice me to want to hear their day old take on what is happening on TV.

I read the news of John Gabriel's death this morning from the (not so) reputable New York Post. I noted that they mentioned that he played the "controlling" doctor Seneca Beaulac which I found remarkable because I don't think that controlling was a defining characteristic on the character. Then, I looked at the wiki, and I found that they lifted the adjective from the one sentence character profile on the Ryan's Hope page. Anyway, I see that Seneca returned for the finale, but I was wondering if anyone remembers his exit storyline in 1985? Where did Seneca go and with whom did he end up?

I forgot that Ginny got pregnant with Rick Jr after the trial, but then again so did GH...

In the synopsis Ginny's trial for the murder of DL Brock was dropped because the DA took note of Bobbi saying about how violent DL had been. Looking back, there was a lot of build up to Ginny's trial only for her to be set free rather quickly (they hired James Horan and it was one of Jake/Sam Behrens first stories), so I would guess it was planned to be a longer trial. I believe Ginny and Rick leave Port Charles as soon as the trial is over, so I don't think Chris Robinson got his wish.

Linda/Gina and Robin/Gina are like two different characters each with their own strengths. For example, I didn't recall how fluid Gina's backstory was in the first year between the adoption of Brandon, her daughter Lily and this guy who I totally forgot I though Linda did well with Gina as a reluctant drug addict, because she played the manic versions of the character that made her vulnerable. On the other hand, I think Gina's relationship with Keith Timmons and Ethan Asher needed the stronger and more willful presence that Robin brought to the part. I also wonder, going back to the original recast, if there wasn't a need to create more of a distinction between Gina and Santana. Gina and Santana were given very similar stories at first and they play played redundant roles in the plot. Gina and Santana were both in a love triangle with CC and Mason. They were both antagonistic toward Eden, and they were both social climbers. Robin had just finished playing Delia on Ryan's Hope, a character who was known for balancing humor with enmity, so perhaps there was a wish that she could play a different side to Gina than Linda brought to the part. Certainly, Robin's longevity in the role is testament to her ability to portray a multifaceted character who fit as both a romantic lead and jealous villain. Finally, I would hazard to predict that Judith McConnell's Sophia could have eaten Linda/Gina for lunch, and she needed a broader actress like Robin to play against in order further the CC/Gina/Sophia triangle.

The new articles are up and there's a lot of sad news about the death of Charita Bauer. But, there's also disco. Peter Strong (aka Bob Georgia) loves to boogie and Speaking of disco and nightclub owners, an interesting tidbit about the loss of Kim Ulrich on ATWT I'm always amused at what they get wrong. Here, poor James Horan gets his name misprinted three time in the same article Then, there's this bold prediction about Dynasty And finally nobody seems to know who Laken's father is

Ryan the Stripper's motivations are suspicious, which is odd for a show where most things are so obvious to the viewer. Does he really want to keep stripping? Why wouldn't he accept money from Sam, then take a loan from Culhane who is a complete stranger? I am willing to suspend disbelief about law schools that interview students one day, inform them of their acceptance and financial aid the next day, and then they start a week later, but I can't help but think this is all a con. Adam being in contention as chief of staff with only one competitor was a little bit harder to accept. The Dynasty clan is able to sneak into anyone's office every episode (in fact the doctor's office look suspiciously like last week's journalist's office). And Adam's plan to take ownership over the "billions" in medical research seems only tenuously related to being Chief of Staff, considering that he was already in charge of the MRI (still a good joke), and they could only fund one research grant at a time. Culhane's sudden wealth made him even more of a candidate for death in my book (I was sure the car would blow up in the final scene). Although, I didn't get why he is wealthier now that he sold the team than he was as an owner (I guess his funds are more liquid now). I enjoyed the scene with Anders, Alan Dale is a real charming actor, and his presence brings the right kind of humor to every scene. I though the Blake and Fallon business story was a bit of a missed opportunity. When Fallon brought up team building, yoga, and wrongful termination lawsuits, I thought they were setting up an interesting dynamic between the rise of business in the 80s versus today. It would have been fun to show how liability, leveraged costs, and diversity have changed the workplace, but Dynasty seems a little too superficial for that type of story. I also really enjoy the variety of excuses to get most of them to live at La Mirage, which is larger than Culhane's apartment,but smaller than Cristal's closet. Can we all agree that only in soaps do women find out that they're pregnant due to fainting rather than missing their period?