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Those shows were more niche successes though as a whole, no? Full House didn’t really seem to catch fire until it was moved to ABC’s more successful Tuesday night lineup, and was the 90/91 season the only season Family Matters ever made it that high? I think the TGIF block was more of a niche programming block. That probably made the downfall for Dallas look more severe given it was much more of a mainstream success than the niche counter programming that was now beating it in its timeslot. Oddly, Lorimar/Warner-Brothers produced both Dallas and many of those corny Miller-Boyett shows on the TGIF lineup.

In all fairness though, by the late 80’s/early 90’s, networks had long considered Friday night as a graveyard or filler night. The ratings certainly reflected that as a whole - I don’t think Family Matters, for example, ever finished a season in the top 20. Dallas was really the last show that brought such a significant audience to that night, and when that started to fizzle, so did network programming for that night largely.

It’s remarkable what a vibrant presence Tracy is these days. It also doesn’t feel forced or inauthentic. Even if I don’t give one f.uck about Finn, it was great to see Tracy act with so much agency and insert her way into that situation. I do miss some of Tracy’s deviousness and her dark humour, but for someone who was always treated as the black sheep of her family and then lost in Luke-land for so many years, she has a totally new vitality as a character and is single-handedly keeping the Quartermaine presence alive on this show. I know you made the comparison between Tracy and Laura a while back and what spare part Laura often feels like these days while Tracy doesn’t. It’s true, at least the show can get one veteran female character right, for however long that last… They are indeed lucky to have Jane, and I hope she continues on for as long as she possibly can.

MVJ was always respected by the actors on GH because they knew they’d get a quality script when she’d write it. Even Tony Geary, who doesn’t care much for dialogue writers, was very fond of MVJ.

It may have been irrational, but I was also totally cool with Sam telling Carly that if anything happened to Danny, she would also hold her equally responsible as Jason for being his #1 enabler. In most of that same episode Jason was still trying to protect Carly from the feds at the continued expense of his relationships with his kids.

Sam’s whole point was that danger and violence follow Jason wherever he goes and she doesn’t think that’s the right environment for her kid to be in. What’s so wrong about that again? The Morgan comment was a heated response because Carly refused to see that Sam had a legitimate reason for being afraid for her son’s safety. Sam explained herself with sound judgement - she was in love with Jason when they conceived Danny, but being a mom made her grow up and change her lifestyle because it wouldn’t benefit her kids. Carly won’t admit that’s a valid excuse because she’s failed a number of times as a mom to protect her kids for the lifestyle she chose to raise them in.

Regarding Sam/Carly - I also thought it was a good Sam mentioned that Carly would never want Jason to evolve or change his way of life because that would mean he’d have to relook at why he keeps putting Carly #1 in his life, above his own damn children. It’s absolutely true. I also found it funny that Carly mentioned she barely even knew Danny. Meanwhile, Jason is constantly trying to protect her kids. Carly doesn’t give a damn about how Jason’s absence and bad parenting his hurt his kids, all she cares about is Jason being there for her and her kids.

It doesn’t matter what was intended for whom - Carly’s involvement with monsters like Sonny and Jason put a marker on her kids backs regardless. Her parenting choices are exactly why Michael was shot and then sent to prison. All the while she was pretending like Michael having a relationship with the Quartermaine’s was more detrimental to his health than the mob violence she exposed him to due to her own alliances.

Agreed and Carly is the last person that should be questioning anyone’s parenting choices given how her parental decisions have screwed with her own kids lives. Sam has every right to imply she doesn’t want her son to end up like Morgan.

In no world should Sam and Carly have ever been friends, so I am not against any animosity between them.

Neither can I, while Murphy is generally trash, his projects do attract attention. NAC should hopefully use the exposure as a springboard to do other things as well, like Evan Peters, Sarah Paulson, and even Finn Wittrock have.

No idea if this is officially confirmed, but if it is, NAC seems to be finding consistent work with Ryan Murphy...

ITV keeps using Emmerdale as a training ground for future Corrie producers and it's never been beneficial to either show in recent memory. Other than Mervyn Watson and Kieran Roberts, has it ever really worked out with these shows sharing the same producers?

If I’m not mistaken, but isn’t NAC one of the very few recent soap stars that actually studied acting in college and got that formal training the old-fashion way? I’d be annoyed too if I were him and if MB came to me and tried to tell me he was better or surpassed the training and years of work I’ve already put into my craft.

Didn’t Molly mention something the other day about NY state law being that the person or surrogate who carries the baby has all legal authority over the baby until they sign over adoption papers?

It was nice to see all the soaps stand up and give Jean Alexander a standing ovation when she presented Best Actor to Ross Kemp. Obviously, we know the list of winners form these old ceremonies, but it’s nice to revisit them to see the stars from the soaps back then and moments you maybe hadn’t seen or heard of before.

Morgan is an easily recastable role and I never felt BK brought anything particularly special to the part.

I didn’t know where to post this, but the first British Soap Awards from 1999 is posted in it’s entirety. Not sure if other earlier years will surface, but it would be great if so. Strange they didn’t really let the Corrie team talk when they accepted Best British Soap.

Maybe with the P&G tie-in, they can tease a new hair product or electronic toothbrush that will be featured on The Gates first.

I’m not talking about back then - I am talking in the present. The fact is Joss is the only one in that age group written for and given consistent screentime. Trina isn’t, and when she is on, most of her time is spent supporting Joss or talking about what’s going on in Joss’s circle.

I’d prefer it if Joss wasn’t the only character in that age group getting significant airtime, and the show made an honest attempt to write for Trina as an equal to Joss. Generic friendship in the sense they’re only each other BFFs because the show has long decided to build that age group around Joss and they’re only friends because they’re not going to be bothered giving Trina relationships with anyone else her age.

I’m not understanding the choice for why Joss needs to so flirty with Gio and possibly building to a Dex/Joss/Gio triangle. Why couldn’t Gio be more involved with Trina, who seemingly had very little to do on the show right now? I wouldn’t mind Joss/Trina going from generic, default best friends to rivals actually…

TJ and Molly are not on enough for me to care what they feel. Their surrogacy story isn’t even about them, it’s just a bad story and has been poorly told from the start.

Where did I mention anything about special episodes or missing them? Not sure I’m following how you interpreted that. What I meant was all the conversations on the show are very quick and meant to advance plot again. The scenes structure all feel like they did before this regime. We’re no longer getting those long conversation-based scenes as we did the first few months under this regime. Not that I necessarily miss those scenes, but I think there’s a noticeable shift.

You can tell we’re now at the point where Mulcahey just threw in the towel, and Frank/Korte are running amok. The show has that dated, and frenetic pace again as it did just before.