KMan101

Of course. Ben the hero. It's so nauseating. It has to be Ron. And he knows a lot of us have bitched about Ben's "redemption" so of course he's probably doubling down. It's nice things are happening though. I'm still hardly invested but there's movement.

Ron or Albert Alarr must have the hots for him bad.

lol, that's actually very fair.

I about died. I'm so glad this was garbage. Goddard's thirsty ass needs to sit down.

All of this. I love James Reynolds. I [!@#$%^&*] love he went there. He's absolutely correct. EJ is a dead end. James Scott has no interest. They aren't recasting. It's time to move on and make Lumi endgame. With Alison and Bryan back, it seems *likely* they do go there. Isn't Sweeney a fangirl of the Ejami relationship, for whatever reason? I know she respects Lumi but she seemed to favor EJ, IMHO ... anywho ... (though to be fair, EJ got her airtime; Lucas would't, and I hate to say that, but we know it's true)

THIS I was so let down with her return then. And of course Frons' awful ass wanted her gone. Sigh. I'm glad they course corrected later, as stated by others.

If Gregory Harrison is sticking around I'm wondering if they plan to pair Alexis and Gregory.

Khan nailed it again. I do think some performers can still do a good job but like you said, it's all so rushed ...

LOL wow! Maybe I should have bought a lottery ticket! Yikes. Corrie and EastEnders feel so hollow. It's really sad. These shows finally suffered from what the US soaps have suffered from for a long time. Sad. Even when they had bad periods they were still, IMO, better than the US soaps at times. Now? lol That's been my take. I like Bowden, actually, but he doesn't really feel like Ben to me. I can see this from what I've watched. I'd have to agree. I do like him though but something about it just isn't working. They have OK chemistry but they feel like buddies most of the time LOL

I don't post much on here because I'm never current and always in and out of the show but I was starting to get back into a bit under Yorke. Not saying it was amazing but it was better than this plot driven shock value disaster.

I feel like it would have to be pure [!@#$%^&*] to not get given the greenlight.

I actually thought Tina was one of the most tolerable Carters (not necessarily a compliment when you look at the Carters). LOL. So of course they kill her. Really sad to see how far EastEnders has fallen. It really is a parody of itself, isn't it? The miserable Christmas and New Years has always turned me off. And add me to the list of those who think it's really sad the actor playing Jay is basically window dressing. Honey/Jay could actually have lots of layers, as icky as it is. A lot of these stories could actually be turned around. Jon Sen does seem to be a very bad influence. Not that Oates is any better, really. I haven't been impressed with her history on any show. And with the same producers hopping back and forth between HollyOaks, Emmerdle, Corrie and EastEnders, they've all become similar to each other. Dark. Plotty. Reminds me of Jill Farren Phelps and other US producers who turn their shows in to dark plotty messes. You could at least say it was produced well. EE isn't even produced well.

They seem to be going for "buzzy" moments instead of really telling fully fleshed out stories. Hence why, as you said, This is Us has traction and a following. I've never bothered with the latter because it feels a bit try hard but that's good to hear. I liked Filthy Rich but like you said it blows through story and it's hard to invest in. Empire is a good example. The first season felt like it was actually planned out. It was, mostly, satisfying. Of course it all went to crap. These so called 'soaps' refuse to embrace they are a soap (as many others have accurately pointed out already). Like I said they seem to want 'buzzy' moments like other more popular shows and there's no real substance at the end of the day. (The new Dynasty is a perfect example) I expect "Pine Valley" to embrace being a soap but I still worry about the plotting, as Vee has well pointed out. The recent history of primetime soaps worries me but I remain hopeful.

lWell, it's taken me some time to figure out what I think and what I feel about this. I'm still not sure. My mind is still kind of racing over it all. I love the idea of "rebooting" a daytime soap as a primetime version. It has SO much potential. It does sound like the 'right' people are behind it, though Ripa and Consuelous give me a bit of pause, but at least they are 'name' enough to help get it off the ground I suppose. They'd be really stupid not to have Susan Lucci and Eva LaRue starring. And I also agree they need to have SMG as Kendall. I love Minshew but SMG is name recognition, and she originated the role to huge fanfare. AMC has a LOT of past stars that became famous or well known, or at least had some success away from the show. They'd be stupid not to capitalize on that. They'd also be stupid not to focus it on Sam Grey. He's a Martin, a Cortlandt and a Santos. And of course you need Maddie if there's some Santos/Kane "feud" (that leaves me a little less interested, but it could have potential; I would love to see Maria and Erica going at it again). As a journalist, you'd be stupid not to find a way to tie in Tempo and Brooke English, who was of course married to Sam's adopted daddy Edmund. I could go on for days at the possibilities ... but I do have my expectations in check and am aware of this being it's "own thing", which is fine, but use what you have. Otherwise, what's the point? Oh, and another point, they could easily weave in other vets/characters should they so choose. Erica needs a friend: enter Opal and Jill Larson. If they use Sam, he needs a boss, who better than his former stepmother? Enter Brooke English. And Michael Nader was once a primetime Dynasty star and seems to have his issues in check. I wouldn't mind Dimitri. You'd have to mention him if it's a Kane/Santos feud, right? EDIT: They'd also be stupid not to have Debbi Morgan starring right alongside Susan and Eva. Then you can have Cornelius Smith Jr. back as Frankie ... See the potential? Will they use it? EDIT: I wonder if we see Chrishell Stause as Amanda again. She was just on Dancing with the Stars ...

lol right? SMH. Really SOD?

They really like her? Yikes. She's a very hollow producer. I remember reading a piece on her from like 2017 or 2018 where she was rambling on about how she liked big returns (it was for Corrie though and about Bet). It just read like one of our US producers or writers and how they talk a good game but usually don't deliver, etc. LOL. And wanted to add, RIP to Dame Barbara. Sigh. Yes, she did do an incredible job. I do think they became a parody of themselves as time wore on, sadly, but the early Mitchell stuff was great and different.

They seemed to limit a lot of her options, weirdly. Was it Fulton too? I love her to death but I feel like she wanted Lisa to remain youthful and childless, LOL

Everyone's more or less summed them all up AW - Frankie (and I'm gonna say Sally too) DAYS - Renee (and Bill and David - both off-screen) GL - Maureen (and Nadine) Y&R - DRUCILLA and COLLEEN and HILLARY (and Brad and John and Liz) ... and Dina was wasted and shouldn't have died GH definitely owns this thread though (although, damn, Y&R is fighting for equal status). Alan. Emily. Georgie. Tony. AJ. Duke. All still infuriate me. Although I thought Brad Maule wanted Tony to die he seemed to imply that wasn't the case so I'm confused on Tony. Still a mistake. DAYS would have a longer list if they didn't give zero [!@#$%^&*] and bring people back. Tony, Jack and Will. I don't count Bo. He's still alive in my mind, LOL. But yeah, a mistake indeed. Gillian's death was such a mistake. I was so pissed at the time. I'm still salty about it. LOL. I remember being bitter we were stuck with that awful Laura recast (who seemed like she should have been Bianca's love interest instead) and we lost Gillian in that dumbass Alex/Anna plot. Sigh.

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Bingo! I'm all for it. Sorel likely isn't interested in anything long-term. And just a reminder to Uncle Ronald, Stephen Schnetzer played Julie's brother for a hot minute in a stupid ass plot ... And damn, just think about this. Another World has been gone for 21 years. Damn. The cancellation remains fresh in my mind.

I'm ... surprised. LOL. I flove me some Linda Dano so YAY but I also adore Sorel and am tired of the rotating Vivian's. Like others have said, if this were an actual recast that was long-term, I COULD get behind it. I'm assuming, like always, it's a pop in. It's Ronald Carlivati. I have no doubts. LMAO. It's also probably no coincidence that Jackee joins and then we get Linda as Vivian ... It is odd. I wish they'd just keep Vivian around. Enough with the pop ins. Especially when every other time they can't seem to get Sorel (or don't ask; I have no idea). I'm assuming if they did ask Sorel she doesn't want to do it with Covid, etc. Just a guess. Sucks but I'm willing to give Dano a shot as Vivian; I'm very intrigued to see her in the role, actually. Just hard to invest in because I'm tired of the pop ins.

And to be fair, Ron and Jackee were tweeting each other way back in January before 2020 went to [!@#$%^&*]. Jackee flat out said she'd love to play on DAYS and Ron said he'd have his people call her people; it was all done in a somewhat joking manner but clearly there was more to it or it lead to something

That's my guess too. I can't see them introducing a whole new family but I'd be open to it to add more diversity. She seems to imply they're hiring away which is interesting. I like Sheila and T-Boz, but Ron kind of overdoes a 'good thing'. I'm excited to have her on DAYS. I love Jackee. I can't wait for the idiot stans to Tweet her some nonsense. She will not play nice, LMAO. Yeah. I have no doubt Ron stans Jackee. LOL. He knows she was on Another World. I always give Ron credit for appreciating Queens of Television and Soap Opera. lol

Yeah, I wasn't a fan of the song remix. It grew on me though, but the original is just so iconic.

I binged them all yesterday. I really enjoyed it. I like how they use the new kids from Douglas as the 'outsiders' to the world of Saved by the Bell in Bayside with the rich kids and it just works so well. You could tell it was made with love and care for the original. It found a way to make it bizarre, yet charming, timely, yet funny. Sharp dialogue. Witty nods to the past. I thought they did a great job. I loved Zack mentioning Tori. Kelly: "Who?" I thought Zack sometimes bordered on caricature/parody but it worked and we saw glimpses of Zack. Kelly seems a little lost but not a huge amount of time is spent on them. I liked Jessie, Slater, Zack and Kelly realized you can't necessarily go back again, lol, but they still found their spark again. It was a little odd having the Principal so shoved into the past but it was fun seeing the clips and was likely going for a deeper meaning. Lark Voorhies looked fabulous! It was so nice she made a cameo as Lisa. I didn't love it was wasted on shoehorning in the principal, but whatever. John Michael Higgins, I love him. But the whole shoehorning him into past clips as some deeper meaning or whatever was kinda bizarre. Was I alone in feeling that? But overall love him. Great moments and I like how he stood up to Marley from New Adventures of Old Christine and formed bonds with the kids. He fills the Screech/Belding spot nicely. They sure name dropped Screech a lot. Screech and Kevin are happily living away from Earth on the space station. Could you blame them? LOL. I like the growth of Slater. It's nice seeing Mario Lopez be likable again. Just saying. Jessie works perfectly as the guidance counselor and Berkley is doing a great job. I about died when Jessie grabbed the caffeine pills from Daisy and was using the fire extinguisher. They embrace the bizarre of original SBTB and it works. The new kids are really good finds, IMO. Daisy is Jessie 2.0. I love how Mac calls her buddy instantly. I like how they bring out different sides to each other. Mac is actually doing Zack Morris BETTER, IMHO. Lexi is greatly complex yet also ridiculous and at the same time you root for her. Trans representation ya'll. On SBTB. I love seeing it. I like that she's the female Zack/Mac. Not sure I'm all in on Lexi/Jamie but I like the complicated feelings and they have some nice chemistry. Jamie is simple and naive, yet not, at the same time. I wish we saw him a bit more with Jessie, however. He just felt a bit isolated from her considering Jessie is the school guidance counselor and bonding with his friends. I did like the scene of her unable to tell Jamie he sucks at football. LOL. Aisha being a female quarterback was a great idea. I love the gender bending. I kind of feel like they could do a bit better with her though. She has her moments but spends a lot of time with Jamie and Daisy. DeVante and his grandma and his friends. That's all. Love him. Love them. I loved the 'twist' of him not being a football player and instead going out for the school musical. It's really nice they aren't stereotyping. It's so refreshing, actually. I think they did a great job naturally pushing them all together as friends. None of them are caricatures and they actually have human sides. It's nice. This could have gone really wrong. I also appreciate the topics they tackle, in the SBTB way of course. I'll do some more indepth episodes thoughts. Just a general summarization of my thoughts. EDIT: And kudos to them bringing back Ed Alonzo as Max.