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I mean, I don't know how more relevant a thread could be with Chandler's shirtless pics and discussion of Deidre Hall's best 70's looks lol.

No lies here.

He really can't. The Shawn/Belle, Thersea/Brady incest would be too weird. I might let it slide overall, tbh, though. I can forget about Tater tot, but Shawn/Belle/Claire are kind of a thing lol.

Truth. He definitely gives 100%. There's a reason he's lasted so long. He's just not a great actor, but I would rather watch him than GH's Julliard trained actors....just saying. There is something serious to be said about someone that clearly loves their job. He projects that in all his scenes. Drake literally seems like a guy you want to have a beer with and that projects better than any acting skills.

This is a great post. His inexperience and natural nervousness worked so well in 1986. Not to mention his rocking chemistry with Marlena. And Marlena had been alone for a minute, so it felt okay. Marlena's fear that John was Stefano, but still was into it works perfectly. I can't complain about John's intro story at all. I still think it was A LOT to believe Drake and Wayne were the same person, but whatever lol. One is just six inches taller lol. I thought John/Rojohn was a natural as Roman. He had chemistry with everyone. He was just very earnest. Drake has good chemistry with women, friends, kids etc. The Diana story got a little weird and I am not convinced the entire Isabella story wasn't rushed, but he worked. I liked the RoboJohn stuff initially. Dee did some great work around John's death. The back and forth got tiresome. Some days Marlena was all in with RoboJohn and the next day she wanted a divorce. I think the Alamain stuff just didn't age well. The show was going for that family to be the next Kiriakis's or Dimera's and then they faded out, so no one cares now. It probably goes back to the fact they wanted Carly/CC to be the next big lead and she up and left. I liked John/Vivian together though.

Now I can see a difference, but when I was 15 I was sure they were the same person lol! I do wonder if that effected PG's ability to get a job after SB though because she's a decent actress.

Lol! I would assume your soap opera fanfic would be amazing. I think the bones of the Roman/Marlena story are great. It's very old school and classic. No one would notice. Tbh, it's sad it all didn't work out for them because it was a very good concept. I mean, bummer that Drake and his abs showed up.

Lol I thought I was alone in this world think PG and KD looked so much alike. And they both were Spelling productions so it is highly confusing. I was sure Brooke from Melrose Place was playing Gabi on SB for awhile...lol

If it happened before I was born I assume it's fair game. Were Roman/Marlena the original plan? Or were they a spoiler for her and Don getting back together? It seemed like the show was leaning into a reconciliation and then just stopped it. The show wasn't wrong. I am just curious if the plan was to make Roman/Doc a supercouple.

Even as Brenda's #1 Fan the story got tiresome. It's one thing to be young and be confused about Sonny/Jax-it's another to purposely play them off eachother at 40. And at some point Brenda was doing that full well knowing they would fight over her. Anyhow, Sonny never really evolved. It's always been the same seduction routine. I understand there is some trouble living up to iconic storylines/pairings that happened right off the bat, but ugh. I get why Brenda/Carly love him, but he is a great B character not an A character.

If we are talking about Days (even older Days) is it a thread derailment?🤣 Given the current state of Days, I would assume this thread would be lucky to have a watch post about Never Say Never: The Deidre Hall story.* Message me if anyone finds that movie for free!!

Agree 100%. Even if you didn't agree with the point, the Possession had one. It was a very clear lovestory underneath it all. JER gave it a very obvious beginning, middle, and end-even if I suspect it changed half way through to make it more Marlena/John centric. It will never be a story I like, but it was well crafted overall.

I still can't buy Roman/Anna but we never saw the romance so no big deal I guess. It does sorta track now with Roman/Kate. ETA-Anna's intro was bizarre. It involved white slavery.

Early Roman/Marlena is amazing. They are so likable. I honestly don't see Roman (Wayne's version) in a triangle with mother/daughter. He seems too blue collar and pragmatic for that. I honestly had a hard time picturing him with Anna. She seemed way too glamourous for him (no offense to Deidre as Marlena is glam as well, just more down to earth) Got you. They did interact a bit in their first run for sure. Carly was a big part of the Tale of 2 Romans and she and Bo had that Mayan wedding. Anyhow, the show did back off their interaction after that. I am not sure if it was an actual personal issue or just the fact Deidre Hall did nothing for the entirety of 1992

She left in summer of 2011. They didn't overlap. I had to google it because I wasn't sure lol. It looks like Days fired her.

I get it as a fan. I am not sure it's doing either of them any favors, but I literally think they are iconic and in love-so I am not objective lol. My feeling is Drake would have been dumped years ago without the pairing, so good for him. I think the pairing is more a disservice to her more than him. Unfortunatley they boxed Drake in by not making him Roman and you can't go back now with Shawn/Belle and Brady/Thersea having kids. No writer has ever nailed down John's origins. I have no idea why they didn't make him Roman's twin.

I just don't see how anyway you look at the tale of 2 Romans it makes sense. It is the jumping off point for the endless Days ridiculousness. It made Marlena and the entire Brady family look like idiots and they still haven't reconciled who John really is. I don't think anyone came off likable in the story at all. It really started the trend of RealRoman being an ass to Marlena.

Sonny/Brenda/Jax? Awesome. Great story. Sonny can lead his own B stories, but if I was in charge Sonny would have been gone in 1997. It was the perfect end to his story. The mob robbed him of the life he wanted the most. It was fitting. But here we are.

I have no idea how behind the scenes antics go, but the optics to me have always been GF is expendable to TPTB. I don't think she's going to be written out at this point, but I never thought the show has valued her as much as it should. But this show has been off the rails for years. I am like a charter member of the Sonny Corinthos fan club (it's lessened over time, but the feeling is still there). He should not be a lead. The show is about a hospital not mobsters. I have no idea how we got to this place lol.

How do you figure out how to play a devil Possession? I have never thought Drake was good. Charming, good looking, and likable? Yes. He has that innate ability to generate good chemistry with co stars as well and the man has a rocking body for someone who is in his 60's. But he has recently taken his performances from older, hot action hero to wacky grandpa and I can't....Marlena and John are a fabulous supercouple and still have great chemistry. I still think their 70 year old asses get it on all the time lol, but they lean into the cheesiness too much. Marlena had excellent scenes with Will the other day and it showed ability but then she hams it up with John a day later. I adore the fact the DH's still want to act and be on our tv screens everyday, but I also wish they wouldn't pander so much to the Jarlena fanbase and to be clear I am in the Jarlena fanbase🤣 I am going to probably get hate on this but I think the Tale of 2 Romans is the worst story Days has ever done. Sure there are failed stories like "Garden of Eden" and what not, but this messed with such iconic history it's ridiculous. I know Days had a renaissance and bump in popularity in the 90's, but I don't see how you can't point to that story and say this is where it all got bad lol. To this day, if you asked me to explain it I couldn't.

I don't think Laura will be phased out. I like the fact the show isn't trying to sell you a new, passionate romance with Laura. It's not going to be Luke/Laura so why bother. I wish they would bring Lucky/Lulu back to anchor her more though. I really think there is a place for Laura on the show to be that steady main character. A wise talk to. I don't want to put her prematurely out to pasture or anything, but it just feels right for Laura to be that person.

Do you hate the Tale of 2 Romans as much as I do? Do you feel like it went on forever and explained nothing? Do you think making John not Roman is one of the worst mistakes Days has ever made? Do you find Isabella unbearably obnoxious? Probably not, but these are all the things I think of when watching that crap story. It's like Days had gold when they got Dee and Wayne back and that was the story choice. Plus, they just decided to not use them for about a year until Marlena decided she wanted to [!@#$%^&*] John again. I know there is a lot of talk about just writing a soap yourself if you hate things and I am not a writer, but I legit could have crafted a better return story for two icons in the early 90's.

To me it makes sense. Laura had all the fire and passion. I like that she's grown up and not chasing a teenage dream fantasy and wants stability. Laura always craved stability even with Luke. She was down for adventure, but she wanted a home, a family, peace as well. It works for me. I get that Laura is an icon and people might want more for her, but I prefer this to women like Brenda* who is still holding out for her teenage fantasy with Sonny to work at 50 years old. *I am not speaking ill of my girl, but you know what I mean. He's not leaving the mob Bren!

Right? I know they aren't the most exciting, but Laura/Kevin have had a lifetime of drama and it feels alright for them to choose to have a nice, steady, stable relationship. Laura isn't 17 anymore. It not all fun and games. It seems like the mature choice for a 55 year old woman. They aren't being sold as a great supercouple. I get that's not what soaps are made of, but I like it more than, say, Carly running around in circles with Sonny making the same insane choice hoping it will work out this time.

Yeah, it probably doesn't work for a soap, but Kevin/Laura make sense to me. It really seems like a real life couple that were just tired of the drama and found a nice, easing coupling. I still stan for Kevin/Lucy, but I don't find Kevin/Laura bad. I just think Scotty/Laura puts Scott in a Jax like corner where they know their love interest loves someone else more. Kevin doesn't have the Luke baggage Scott has.