carolineg

I always love to chat in the Classic Days thread so I will see you there!

Ha! Ha! I am not trying to convince you. I don't think it matters much on weekends when the board and thread are entirely dead, but some of this stuff could easily move to the BTS Days thread. I just remember the days of pages and pages of personal insults and fighting that happened and as long as everyone is mostly respectful and talking about the show in some capacity-I personally don't care or just scroll on. There are a core few of us that are on this thread everyday and it's nice when others join.

Abe's story really did stall. Paulina and Abe have shared similar scenes over and over for months. After the Whitley story I think Abe should have gotten his memory back until the show could pivot to something else for Paulina/Abe which spoilers seem to indicate they are soon. Also, that wedding photo they keep using is just not a flattering picture of Jackee. Couldn't they find a better one? We really were robbed of EJ punching Leo! Ugh.. Some of the dialogue today was a bit clunky and I noticed it. Paulina/Melinda's entire unecessary scenes? Kate saying she rarely agrees with John/Steve to Abe? Since when? You almost married one of them. Sloan referring to Eric and Nicole's daughter Holly? I know she meant Eric and Holly separately not her as his daughter, but it would have been easier to say Eric and Holly, Nicole's daughter and less confusing for me lol. That could have been entirely on JS though. Also, I would say this thread each month has improved greatly from all the infighting and insults it used to have and pages of pics of shirtless men (not actually complaining about that🤣). It might drift a bit, but it's a much more peaceful place than it was 6 months ago.

Most of Anna's life and Anna/Carrie's relationship occurred off screen. Carrie has been mostly off screen for years. I think at some point you have to just take their relationship at face value. They seem to be close and without issue, so I don't think there is anything more there to analyze. Carrie also seems to be very close with Marlena/John and Roman. I don't think we really know the relationship with Sami/Carrie these days and that's probably the most interesting dynamic.

Seeing some of KS's recent issues at GH especially with wardrobe and styling I think she would be a liability to Days. They don't seem to control wardrobe at all. I agree she was the best Belle though.

Ha! Ha! I truly love Carrie more than both Sami and Belle and miss her all the time. I don't want a recast and it doesn't seem feasible for CC to return so it is what it is. In my mind Carrie should currently be leading the next generation on Days. I mean, she also doesn't act in anything else. She may not be exactly retired, but she's not actively working either lol.

Yeah, my bad. This convo is definitely for the BTS/Classic Days thread lol.

I am not really arguing Marlena and especially John were better parental figures to Carrie. The twins would have been orphans without John. It's not really Roman's fault though until the 90's when Roman went incommunicado. Anna made questionable decisions, but did take Carrie in and raised her for a bit when she was having issues with RoJohn. It's noticeable that Anna/Roman missed a bunch of Carrie/Austin weddings, but if you aren't on canvas-you aren't on canvas lol. Carrie is definitely missing on canvas and I miss her all the time, but CC has retired from acting. I loved Carrie/Marlena/John in the 90's. It was a very special bond. She seems to have a good relationship with all 4 of her parental figures, so I take it for what it's worth.

@Donna L. BridgesI think Wayne's Roman's descent into being jerk started after he immediately went on assignment after getting back to find Bo. Leaving Marlena and his kids alone again for months. Then his issues with Carrie and Carrie's relationship with John made him seem at the very least unbendable. I never got the sense he tried to reconnect with his family, wife, or children in the same way after being gone for 7 years-he just expected everyone to love him the exact same way as before. He also had a tendency to disregard and not respect Marlena's career. I think the writing was heavily skewed towards John and towards John/Marlena's affair. I don't think Roman is a bad guy or had unrealistic reactions to an unbelievable situation, but I also don't think he comes off great. Especially toward the end of his run where Marlena is doing everything to save the relationship. He had every right to leave her, but not to leave his (troubled) children for several years with no contact.

I am a huge Marlena fan too and I don't need it to be retconned. It's mostly forgotten at this point and she's legally married to John. To rehash it would remind everyone it happened in the first place. As far as Wayne's Roman (and this is more a post for the Classic Days thread)-I don't think some of his 80's stuff ages well, but I did find early Roman/Marlena mostly delightful. In the 90's I thought a lot of his actions were misogynistic and it was clearly slanted writing toward John-and I am 100% a John/Marlena fan. I guess I just think how it would feel to have your wife and family mistake you for another man while you were being captive-and liked him more!. I'd be kind of cranky and a butthead too.

I don't ever want to hear the name Alex North again and pretend it doesn't exist. Roman has had story. Impregnating a 60 year old Marlena while they were presumed dead was unfortunately a pretty big story. And I mean, Roman was married to Anna who is more like Kate than Marlena. It's not entirely out of the realm of possibility. Why Kate wants to be with him is more perplexing.

Well, Wayne was fired to begin with in the 90's and I suspect Wayne being unavailable when they finally decided to bring Roman back was on purpose. I think we all know JT and Ken Corday are tight. I would never want Alex North back though. I agree it's too bad there was no way to work things out with Wayne because so many stories that were told with Josh's Roman would have actually been good with Wayne.

Yeah, Kristen is a character that I think currently needs a long break. In a year or so try to get ED back and make Kristen's schemes and stories more inline with what originally made Kristen so great. Not this nonsense with Brady and Dimera Enterprises.

You know at some point I honestly think they should have killed off Roman. Once it was too late to give the character back to Drake, and the weak John/Marlena/Roman 3.0 triangle was done, Roman should have been killed off and JT could just reappear as Chris Kositcheck. The show does this all the time and I think it would be much easier to take. Sami would have one less person defending her horrible behavior, but what has JT contributed to Roman really in 25 years?

I haven't been there in ages and didn't personally read that info, but I think they are usually pretty accurate-at least their spoilers are. Taylor is a wasted character. It's a shame they couldn't figure out casting. I thought NL was better than TB to be honest though. I loved Wayne's Roman and Drake's. Not sure who JT is playing but it's not Roman. I don't think Eileen wants to do that. I am sure both shows would accommodate her.

It's just info from an admin/board runner on a different message board.

I think Lenz probably set herself up well with OTH. She stayed with the show the entire run. It's also a lot easier doing Hallmark movies than day to day soaps. Too bad. I have always liked her work. I just don't get Drew's point. He basically only exists for Carly right now. The only other things he does is talk to Michael and try to send Scout off to boarding school. He's not even fauxJason anymore. If and when he and Carly break up he would have nothing to do.

Unpacking the tragedy that was Katherine Bell is for the Classic GH thread, but it was bad. So against the type of character MBE excels at. They threw so many things at Katherine Bell that I can't even type out her history. SN was great as Stefan, but MBE just was bad all around as Katherine. I generally don't mind her as Kayla. I don't "get" Patch/Kayla, but they seem to work well together. John/Marlena are way more my jam here.

They were both pretty young so I am sure they are fine now. It was in Frantz's dating Johnny Rzeznik era and they were both obnoxious and entitled. Before BJL was even on One Tree Hill so I am really aging myself here lol. I grew up/lived in a tourist trap in Ca so I have actually met a lot of soap stars. Steve Burton might have been the nicest. I know I will regret saying that, but he was really lovely and shorter than I thought. CM just seems like a guy that will go with the flow and be easy to deal with. He's handsome and slightly charming, so I can see the idea behind hiring him. It's just very, very dull in execution.

Lenz feels a little young to me to be Liz's older sister, but I think she would kill the role. They look much more alike than RH and Jennifer Sky did. I actually met BJL in real life years ago in a real life, non soap setting and....she wasn't the best. She was with Adrienne Frantz and she wasn't great either. As far as GT as Skye-I consider Skye older than both Carly/Brenda and GT seems like that's the age range she fits (Carly/Brenda). It would work fine though. I would push for Carrie Genzel though. Loved her take on Skye. Again, I don't hate Drew/CM, but his existence feels unnecessary. It's just like Carly needs a love interest when we all know she'll go back to Sonny eventually (unless Queen Brenda returns🤞), but that's why he is on the canvas.

I prefer Shane/Kim as well. I have no problem with MBE on Days. She seems like a delightful person. I had a lot of problems with her on GH though. IMO she seemed way more checked out and unclear of her character there than she ever has on Days.

🤣I love the idea of BJL as Sarah. For some reason I feel like GT is too young for Skye, but I could be wrong. BM did what he could with the role and with Drew. CM seems like he just playing Ryan Lavery on a different soap. I don't see any chemistry with anyone there although CM seems like a nice guy.

Gina Tognoni? Lol! I wouldn't hate it. I am definitely more of a Steve Burton/Jason fan than a BM fan, but his take on Jason was lighter and refreshing. Jason became such a downer of a character under Steve and I did enjoy the humor BM brought to the table and I did think BM had nice chemistry with Monaco and Herbst.

I don't mind Steve and Kayla. I am not an uber or anything, but I think they are nice. I don't think anyone will top the John/Marlena/Bo/Hope quad, but I am fine with Steve/Kayla pinch hitting here. I don't have any insider info, but I think we have Stacey for the time being. I haven't heard anything about Eileen.

Sarah as a teen and young adult was pretty general and ill defined that you could do anything with her. I can almost see why the show has a hard time with her. But if you are casting Liz's sister just cast Sarah not some weird random sister. Gh loves to cast names in random roles. I am not going to lie, but I actually liked BM's take on Jason. It wasn't true to Jason really, but it was at least interesting and he was nice to Monica.