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I wonder why Steve and John didn't go to confront Costantin together. I know, I know. Budget. But I think two men that Maggie has known for years might have made more impact instead of looking like Steve was just throwing out these allegations wildly. Sarah really needs some female friends her own age. I don't mind Kayla as a talk to, but I was thinking Sarah truly has no female friends at all. Maybe she should go hang out with Jada and they can bond over both being pregnant by Eric. I am not going to lie Xander really did deserve that punch. Alex/Theresa were pretty much minding their own business and he just starts going into her in public just because? How rude lol. I love how Chad's FOOLPROOF plan was blown up in about 10 minutes because Everett was smart enough to clarify things and just call Gwen. It's rare for someone in Salem to use their brain and follow the logical path for answers.

I don't think Roman/Kate are poor. Roman spent years on the police force/ISA and I assume the pub makes money even if we don't see any non main character customers. It just feels a little quaint for Kate. This is a life I could see Roman being satisfied with, but not Kate. Last we heard (many, many years ago) Roman still owned Roman/Marlena's old house, so I am not sure why they don't just at least live there off screen.

Recurring or not, it's strange Kate is fine and dandy with living at the Pub and just helping out there. I know when Caroline/Shawn lived there the layout for their quarters was an actual home, but it appears Kate/Roman live in a single room.

Yeah, the narrative we have been hearing about Theresa is that she was a good mom and got her life together. I am not saying she can't be a schemer, but I need a better reason than "I hate Xander". I think Kate actually has been used quite a bit these last few years, but a lot of the time I felt she was weirdly inserted into stories or odd romances. I think Kate has been a lost character for a long time that suffers without her children on the canvas. I am not advocating taking LK off contract or anything, but sometimes I felt the show was using LK/Kate just because she was on contract not because the story dictated it.

Theresa definitely has a reason to hate Xander. And Xander isn't a good guy imo. I just think he's an overall better character than Alex. It's been years since these things happened to her and she moved on with her life...until one day she didn't. There hasn't been any indication she's been longing for Brady or plotting revenge against Xander for all these years until 3 months ago lol I think undoing Susan's death was probably more to prop Ava than Xander so she could be paired with Steve Burton. I don't doubt it was the plan all along since we could never be rid of Susan. This year. The story of Kate, Marlena, and Kayla dying was pretty heavily featured. And then Kate's possible murder at the hands of BrainwashedBo and her disappearance. I am not saying it was a great story, but she was used quite a bit.

I thought sticking to Xander was one of the reasons Theresa agreed. Not the sole reason because that's pretty flimsy. I don't necessarily think there needs to be much rooting value behind Xander to get the Kiriakis fortune. It's his. It's not like anyone likes Alex much anyway and Xander would obviously be very generous with Maggie. He doesn't need Sarah for that. To me, Xander clearly stands on his own as just a better character than Alex, so I think perhaps waiting for the reveal when Xander is confused and devastated and turns to Sarah would feel more organic and thought out.

Today's show was bad. Sarah/Xander are really moving at lightning speed toward a reconciliation. There were months of angst from Sarah about Xander and him raising her child to the point she married someone else. Glad this whole situation was cleared right up after a minor kidnapping and a couple conversations! This Everett/Chad/Stephanie stuff is boring! Why didn't we just continue the story with Alex because it's practically the same thing just with a newspaper instead of Titan. Has anyone even verified Everett's coma story? Chad should just get on that instead of buying expensive newspapers. Aside from the Donovan's money (let's say Theresa is cut off), I am sure Brady paid her quite well in child support since she was raising Tate alone for about 16 years. She had a job as well. Am I really supposed to believe she needs money that badly? Unless she blew through that money, but it's really unclear. She managed to be a "good mom" to Tate as Brady always said so it would be weird for her to suddenly be broke now unless she put it into her failing business in LA? Now that we have EOB for however long it would be nice to have some clarity. It just looks like she's scheming just to scheme right now. I guess we can assume John/Marlena/Maggie are still friendly if John/Steve are flying to Greece during Thanksgiving on their own dime to investigate a 'case' on Costantin that no one is asking them to or paying them for lol.

I know what @Donna L. Bridges is talking about. It actually happens with every peacock show. If you get behind it will jump to the next episode without showing previews or credits. Actually, it's pretty annoying when you watch any Bravo show even when you get to the last episode you can view they cut off the previews and move to another show you might like.

Brady mentioned Marlena having a Thanksgiving later which I guess we can assume Kayla got the invite? I would think Brady, Eric/Sloan, and Belle would have been invited as well as Johnny. I think possibly Roman/Kate as well? Let's assume Maggie had her own on the Kiriakis side and that would include all of that clan, but you would also think Holly would have been included. The Dimera's all had explanations of where they were so the only people whose whereabouts are really unknown are Rafe, Jada, and Wendy/Tripp I think and I don't really care about what they were doing. Idk it was weird the show said Steve/John were on a case when we just would have assumed they were celebrating Thanksgiving off screen. Maybe we will see some other sets of characters tomorrow still celebrating.

It was just not the people I wanted to see today. Definitely not the worst episode, but the groupings didn't make much sense outside Chanel, Paulina, Abe. I see absolutely no reason for Stephanie not to spend Thanksgiving with her own parents. Just to be awkward with Blake Berris? Boring. John/Steve are out of town for a case? Weird. This is the time when you pull those vets out. Holly/Tate/Johnny/Chanel should not be carrying a Thanksgiving episode.

Yeah, I get budget, but it still feels a little lazy. There is no reason for Brady/Tate to be eating in an empty pub with not a single extra. They could have been sitting on Marlena/John's couch and it would have seemed more natural. There are subtle things the show could do to make interactions feel more connected.

Today showed how disconnected the show is. I am not sure why the Brady/Black family wasn't at Marlena's (happening off screen) and why the Hortons didn't have more people invited to their dinner. That covers almost the entire cast between those 2 families. Instead today was small groups of people in scenes alone and it missed the family/holiday vibe completely. But, no Leo or Theresa, so I guess it's a win.

I wish they would have made Everett Nick's long lost twin or something. I am not really feeling this character at all. I have no idea why Chanel would be jealous of Holly. I like how dimwitted Johnny always is and is of course clueless. Why were Tate/Brady eating at the empty pub out of Styrofoam containers? EOB might gel a little better as Theresa if we actually saw her interact with her own son lol I am unsure why the show makes Doug seem super athletic and fit. It's clear Bill Hayes is a 98-year-old man and not participating in turkey trots. God Bless him, but he's not running races and killing it in racquetball. It's a weird narrative for the show to continue. Oh, and Happy Thanksgiving everyone!!!

I don't understand how Clyde has any leverage either. It falls in line with B/C characters just doing things to do things-see Melinda and this baby situation.

I, for one, really appreciate @AbcNbc247 recaps every morning. I am on the west coast and read them before I watch the show every day. Helps me know what I am getting myself into lol.

Sarah talked to Kayla about it. Sarah is basically taking over Talia's spot at the hospital.

Now your just giving Ron ideas...😂

Sorry! It's probably too early on a Saturday morning for such horrors! You have to admit you wouldn't be surprised if that happened.

Watch Leo dies and GR shows up in a blonde wig to play Andrew!

I am a speed reader😉 Please send me to the Leo fan posts-I missed them. But go wild with your Leo love. I am just curious if you thought your post was slightly baiting or did you just not have time to read this entire thread? I just tend to be pretty suspect of people who come in and out of this board with extremely contrary opinions. No harm, no foul. I am not looking for a silly fight over Leo. Not worth my time.

Listen, everyone is entitled to their opinion. It was just a very baiting post (my fault for responding) in a thread where we were intelligently discussing Leo and his flaws and how the story could have been better. To each their own though!

Lol! Nice to see Leo has 1 fan besides Ron. Not saying GR/Leo is without fans completely but this post feels a little trolly compared to the rest of the entire internet. Are you Ron @TEdgeofNight?

Ron could have changed the entire Leo/Dmitri/Gwen narrative if Leo or Dmitri just let Gwen in on the plan. Instead of making Leo/Dmitri evil the show could have Gwen agree to the marriage and wacky hijinks and schemes would ensue. It could have been a fun side story. I personally don't think I would have liked it much, but at least it saves Dmitri and Leo from character destruction and gives Gwen something more lighthearted to do. There was just a less ugly way to tell this story if we had to tell it. Welcome to the board @BeeLol!

The thing with Ben though is once he had his (ridiculous) redemption he was a good guy. The idea of a serial killer being reformed is awful, but Ben was actually a decent human being while with Ciara. I am not exactly defending that story because it was dumb but Ben at least showed some character growth. Leo is just an awful person on so many levels. Not serial killer bad, although he seems pretty sociopathic with the way he manipulates and lies to everyone who cares about him. There isn't even an attempt at Leo trying to be a better person. The audience is supposed to feel bad for him because he's all alone and makes 'funny' jokes. The way he treated his best friend is unbelievably horrible and cruel. Numerous people have given Leo chances (Gwen, Sonny) to better his life. He blows those with his own actions and is all sad when no one is around. I'd prefer to watch Ben/Ciara over Leo all day every day and I tend to find Ciara more annoying than Ben lol.

The baby switch with Bianca was at least an interwoven story with long term planning. This just seems to be two separate baby stories not tied together at all. Just two kidnapped babies on the same show. I am not saying LK/Kate should never be on contract again it's just she doesn't have much point currently. Lucas coming back would give her that. She has a large family, but no one is really around so she's just at the pub chit chatting with Marlena and not driving any story.