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Ugh. SBu and TB I can tolerate, but that's sad about GR/Leo. I literally have no idea what Johnny does all day. He needs a job. The show could just tell us he works at Dimera like everyone else. I would group it like this-in my own head-with facts at hand 24-26 Johnny, Chanel, Allie, Wendy 28-30-Ciara, Tripp, Claire, Theo early to mid 30's-Will, Sonny, Alex, Chad, Stephanie, Gabi

Allie was over 21 when she got pregnant with Henry. I am going to assume Johnny/Allie are at least 25 now. Chanel was Allie's bff in London so I also assume they are the same age. Although with Chanel's backstory she should be almost 30 right now lol. Holly seemed younger to me than Tate so I thought 16 was a reasonable guess. You know I like SBu, but I have no investment because I am just waiting for the other shoe to drop and GH to re-hire him. Like we all know it's coming, so what's the point?

It's not as jarring as seeing Brady/Belle at John/Marlena's wedding and they come back from their honeymoon and Kirsten Storms is there, but it's definitely a bit more off putting than Tate who has been gone for years. The show would have been better off with Sydney because she's been off screen. She just obviously wouldn't have a crush on her own brother. Since I doubt they are going to make Johnny some weird predator that goes after teenage girls the Holly crush feels pretty irrelevant to me and they should have just aged a whole group so we don't have to watch a 16-year-old put the moves on a 28-year-old man.

Yup. Nicole could have had a line to EJ and then a line to Chloe about Holly becoming a teenager and how crazy it is, so it would have been established she has aged. I swear the last time Nicole talked about Holly she was mentioning teddy bears lol. It seems like the bare minimum to ask, but who knows? I think it's a silly mistake to age just Holly and Tate. Sydney and Parker should absolutely be a part of this too. What fun is a teen scene with just one boy and girl?

Exactly. I am not expecting Days to treat mental health in a realistic way. I do think there is a way to portray Susan in a more sensitive light though. She's always been a bit of a "joke", but the portrayal doesn't age well. Even when she debuted 25 years ago she was treated as someone who was unstable. Now she's just everyone's favorite eccentric lady in town. If the show insists on keeping Susan just dial everything back a little. It is strange Nicole didn't mention Holly at all before she appeared. Not even, "I think Holly has a crush on Johnny. She's growing up so fast" throwaway line. I almost wonder if it's intentional to make the viewer 'forget' these kids and that they are aging them by a decade.

I don't understand the writing for Susan ever. Sometimes she written as a psychic with special powers and a bit eccentric like when she was with Edmund, Harris and Ava. And sometimes she's written like today where she seems to be mentally stunted or developmentally slow. Is she someone we are to perceive as a functional adult or is she supposed to be mentally ill or neurodivergent? The show is intentionally vague with Susan and I never know what to think of her behavior. It's like everyone placates her like she's just a run of the mill weirdo, but some of her actual behavior suggests much deeper problems. The pacing of Holly/Tate was bad, but I feel like Days always does this with rapidly aged kids. Instead organically mentioning the child over a period of weeks they just show up one day as a teenager.

I mean she was at the time😂

She lives there. She moved in when Nicole did lol.

It's a little strange Holly/Tate have no idea who one another are. Weren't Brady/Nicole together at some point after both kids were born? You would think the names would at the very least spark a memory even if they haven't seen one another in years. Tate isn't a very common name either. @AbcNbc247 I just knew once SBu was hired and put on the main show he'd be involved with Marlena and/or John. Even with the Kate/Marlena propping, Harris feels so far removed from the main canvas. I don't really get Harris's purpose and I know this pairing with TB isn't going to be it even though I do think the actors are charming together. I think you said Tate looks like William Lipton and I totally agree lol. I like him so far. Holly is a little green as an actress though.

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I don't really remember Deception's origins as far back as Julia/Dom/Scotty. In its inception it might have had spa ties. I just remember it was always perfume Lucy was talking about and Brenda was always doing perfume ads in the 90's while Jax Cosmetics was, well cosmetics. That may or may not have been the case, but that's how I differentiated the two in my mind at least. I have no idea why the show needed two cosmetics companies in the 90's with only one model in town lol. When Carly/Laura launched it I thought it was perfume again, but maybe it's always just been vague. Anyhow, this is the first time since the 90's since Deception seems like a viable business and I do think Maxie and Lucy have put in a lot of hard work so I do understand why they are treating this whole situation so seriously, especially Maxie the single mother with a brood of kids. I could at least see the appeal of Nathan, while I don't see any appeal with Milo as an actor or a character outside of Cheetwood being very good at working out.

Yes! I couldn't remember if CoeCoe just went under because of Lucy's Vampire/Mental Health problems or if it was already headed that way when Felix/Sabrina came to ask for her help with the Nurse's Ball. I also remember Laura being 'out of town' so Scott was helping Lucy with the spa. I just figured I missed the conclusion of the story and it does exist off screen, but it seems like it was just dropped. I think having Deception continue to be a makeup company makes much more sense than a spa although I do think Deception started as mostly perfume or at least that's the only product I remember Brenda promoting. No idea why Ron tried to make Milo, of all characters, a thing up to considering teasing a Lulu pairing.

I don't really consider Olivia to be a buddy stand in for Brenda/Lois. It's more like Lois and Lois-lite. Despite favoring Vanessa physically, I don't think Olivia and Brenda have much in common at all. That being said, glad Lois/Rena are back! I think Lucy and Maxie did build Deception back up from scratch to be fair. IIRC (and it's been awhile) Lucy had a different cosmetics brand when she first came back and Deception was practically dead. I can't remember what happened to the old brand (it might have something to do with the vampire slayer story?), but she ended up wanting to open Deception Spa with Laura. Long story short, I think Maxie/Lucy did a lot to re-brand and re-build and I don't know if that spa is still open or if Laura even cares.

You know, it is possible for Kate/Marlena to be bff since it was something established to go back to the 70's and they have a ton of grandkids and people in common. It's just Kate has done a lot of crappy things to Marlena/Marlena's daughters and it wasn't ever really resolved. They just became bff again. And this isn't a Ron thing. It just sort of happened through time. I guess Marlena is just really forgiving unless you are Talia lol.

The show gives Kayla more to do like bother Stephanie about marriage lol? I honestly chalk it up to MBE just filming on different days and I do suspect these Kate/Marlena gossip sessions were filmed in a day. In my opinion I consider Marlena better friends with both individually anyhow. Kate/Kayla could be friends, but it's also not weird to me that they aren't sharing scenes either. IDK, when you actually think about Marlena/Kate being such buddies it is weird considering Kate used to be engaged to John and is married to her ex-husband and did everything possible to destroy Sami's life. But whatever.

I actually wonder if all those scenes were filmed in one or two days because Marlena/Kate just appear for a few minutes or a few scenes and disappear. And John only exists as a phone call offscreen lol.

I am with @j swift on the Maggie/Justin scenes. I think it was a clunky delivery on Maggie's part, but I don't think it was intentional rape erasure in, say, the way Luke/Laura's past was whitewashed on GH. I am not sure if Justin even needed to know those very personal details about Bill/Laura because that wasn't the point of the story. It was about Mickey/Mike. I know if you are going to use history it should be used correctly and the whole story should have been worded better. I just think it would be a very difficult and personal thing to explain to Justin. I mean, she didn't explain it caused Mickey to have a mental breakdown either. Idk, I see both sides of the argument, but it didn't offend me personally as much as some others on here.

It's just so strange to me that Maggie is so dead set on being Titan's CEO. It doesn't feel very in character for her. And when Justin read the will last week I had the same impression as Alex. The wording made me think Alex was in charge going forward. As far as Theresa, I felt there was immediately something trashy about how EOB played it. I don't consider Theresa outwardly trashy like that. But it was only like 20 seconds and I do think EOB is a good actress.

The current team had some good ideas with story too, but everything was so rushed with them. I really think Ron or even previous writers really like the idea of Shawn/Belle and either don't like the actors or lose interest. Or Alarr just disliked MM.

It's a choice. You know I dislike MM's Belle, but if you can't write for John/Marlena's daughter and Bo/Hope's son it's a show problem. It's several different writing and production teams so it's really perplexing overall. If you don't like the actors-recast (not with EOB or RSW please though)

Oh, I think Chloe is very ill-defined and gets some awful writing. I just don't understand why lol. She should be quite easy to write for. NB basically checks all the boxes for standard soap heroine. But then again, the show can't write for Belle. The only child of the show's main supercouple. So much. All for Leo.

I'll never understand why the show just discards Nadia every time they feel like it. I am pretty neutral on Chloe overall, but I could think of at least 5 stories to write for her right now including just adding her son into the new teen scene that's coming.

I think Megan did explain Dmitri's birth briefly in one episode. It wasn't anything too exciting IIRC. But AGREED. The show absolutely dropped the ball with Dmitri. So much to explore with him and PP was wasted on frickin Leo! Anyhow, I wonder why the show finds Chloe so difficult to write for. Nadia gets fired every few years and she's just a solid, run of the mill heroine. NB is beautiful, can act decently, has been in popular pairings and is clearly loyal. She's the type of actress/character soaps are built on and the show constantly just runs out of story for her. I don't think Chloe or NB brings anything amazing to the table, but she should be an easy character to write for.

Why does Maggie care about being Titan's CEO so much? I am not saying she's wrong about Alex, but I don't get why it's so important to her. Marlena/Kate keep popping in and out of episodes randomly. I am so used to a character being on the show for its entirety and it is throwing me off. This whole EOB thing is ridiculous and I actually am finding Gwen interesting for like the first time ever. It would have been nice if she went to make up with Jack/Jen or something. And I hope that Theresa wig is a joke.

Ava hired him when he needed money. He lied about the whole job with Gwen to Sarah. It was stupid, so easy to forget.