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I liked today's episode. The Pub scenes were nice. I do love John/Marlena reminiscing about the early part of the Affair at the table with Roman. Nice. I kind of agree John needs to get over his past. I get that it really sucks, but at some point just move on. Poor Holly. I feel bad for Nicole/Ej, but that was cold to leave Holly alone on Christmas Eve/her b-day. It would have been nice if Abe came to stay with Paulina too.

I think there is input by actors and just total disregard for the material. NLG just can't walk in one day and say, hey Alexis should be able to drink today because I don't like being an alcoholic anymore. Tony did just that. Luke showed little regard to killing his own grandchild (at the moment) and it completely turned me off to him. More than the rape. More than the wacky ne'er do well hijinks that a 60 plus year old man should have long grown out of. Even more than retcon Ethan (thanks again Tony!). At the time I did think it was very full circle the way they had Lucky find out about L/L's past while he was helping Liz with her rape. Did I enjoy the story? Yes. Was it the best thing for L&L and their future? No. Hindsight is 20/20. I still think the show could have worked past it if they had moved a little quicker with reuniting L&L instead of dragging it out until the point of no return. I don't disagree that it would be a bad look to reunite Laura with her rapist, but I do wonder how much of the current audience would be offended by it.

That's the day a lot of feelings I had for Sonny died lol.

@Khan-you aren't wrong about Sonny lol, but I did enjoy their friendship. For me it's not just Tony playing against being a family man. It worked for me, but that might be his character take. It's Tony also ignoring the writers entirely like with the alcoholism plot. It's not my favorite by any means, but when you actively go against Luke having a problem with alcohol after that lengthy Emmy bait storyline its disrespectful to the show and the writers. Tony is free to disagree with the story, but he was going out of his way to show Luke drinking when the scene didn't even call for it. That sort of behavior has soured me entirely on Luke and Tony and I am fine with him coming back at the very end and finishing his plot off with Laura. You are right. It's not cute or funny. It's pathetic. Grow the eff up Luke.

Even if this pairing was popular, why would it be important? It's your average run of the mill love story with two attractive middle aged white people. The SEC angle? That just makes them two attractive middle aged white people that are idiots about business.

I thought Tracy/Luke were at least unexpected and miles better than the attempted Felicia, Skye, and Anna pairings. It was age appropriate and it broke Luke out of the 'romantic lead' pattern he had post-Laura. Once the scamming and wacky hi-jinks kept going on and on I was completely over it. I did think their 2010 wedding was quite lovely though. I am still not exactly sure why the show treats it as this great, once in a lifetime love even today. I am all for Tracy finding someone new and I would be thrilled if it was someone without any agenda.

Yes! They were great until Luke became this scammer and cheater and just appeared to be using Tracy. But Luke was treated almost like a loveable screw up and I hated it. I also hated the L&L trash talking. It was just so unnecessary. Tracy/Luke could have stood on their own as a different type of romance, but the show or Geary needed to get jabs in about L&L. There was no reason to negate one romance to make another work. I would probably find someone new for Tracy, break up Kevin/Laura for some reason and move him back to Lucy and bring Luke on at the very end and just make L&L endgame.

I agree they were kept apart too long as well. It's not only the amount of time, but the lack of any real hope or move towards reconciliation during that period. But Genie/Laura would have ended up in the same holding pattern with Tony's vacations as well if they could have worked something out with her. I honestly felt like Luke did have a lot to do during Genie's maternity leave tbh. He did have a lot of story with Bobbie/Carly, whatever him and Sonny were doing, and the whole Katherine Bell shooting. After GF left "for good" I have no problem with the show pairing him with Jane. Tracy/Luke were great until they weren't and fell into this weird toxic cycle. I just felt TG starting playing against most Luke/Laura material (outside the wedding anniversary stuff) and it does not feel right to have Laura/Kevin and Luke dead right now. I am not a huge shipper of L/L, but it only feels right for them to be endgame. Tracy seems to be the only one mourning Luke while Laura just goes about her business. As of this moment the show treats Tracy/Luke as this great love and I am just not buying it. I don't exactly have a solution, but this ending for Luke/Laura isn't it.

I tend to agree. I always knew about the rape and when the show decided to re-explore it I thought Luke/Laura would work through it and end up together again. I was pretty young, but most of the audience knew that part of their history and accepted it. When the rape was revisited I thought it was a way to acknowledge it, own it, and move on with their lives and family without their 'secret' looming over them. It obviously would never, ever work today and I still don't think that storyline irrevocably broke them. Tony Geary did.

I'll be honest, I find Tripp/Wendy so boring and I like both characters. I just don't really like them together.

I have said before and will say again-almost all of 1997 was a mess. The only bright light was the Carly/AJ/Michael saga. Miranda being entirely dropped threw off the intended Cassadine story and it was handed to Alexis, the Stefan/Katherine debacle, Genie being gone, the absolute stupidity of the Sonny/Brenda/Jax nonsense, Kevin/Lucy being on their way out, the Pierce Dorman mess which I still don't understand (he's a drug lord?). Somethings couldn't be helped casting wise like Rena leaving, Genie's maternity leave, KMc going part time, LH/JL going to PC, LH as Miranda bombing and VM and MB being wishy washy about staying or leaving, but, man, the momentum was lost. 1998 even with Guza had some moments, but also a lot of iffy stories like Brenda's breakdown and the Tale of 2 Macs. I really think Guza had a pretty good idea of where he was headed and I wouldn't be surprised if he kept it to himself. Casting issues may have taken him out too, but I think it would have at least been more coherent that year if he had stayed.

Maybe they can just ask John/Steve to take on the drug case for free too. Then they will just ask Shane to solve it😂

Agreed. As long as he takes Violet with him though.

I can't believe Andrew just let Theresa go with that flimsy ass excuse lol. Oh well, at least your cute Andrew! Kostantin is ridiculous. Hiding behind Christmas trees and eavesdropping? He needs to go. I don't get why John/Steve/the ISA aren't working with Jada and the police on the kidnapping. You'd think they fill Jada in on their own rogue investigation.

I am pretty sure someone on here mentioned he was still taping about a month ago. So I don't think there is any end in sight.

Thank you! That's more or less what I thought. The thing is with a Melanie pairing he would have always had some story even if he was on the backburner for a bit. Perhaps Hapka thought the jobs would roll in a just miscalculated. I doesn't seem like an insurmountable difference to work out especially when the regime changed and they could have brought Nathan back, but I guess the character was just dropped instead. AK's Stephanie just lacks depth in general. She is practically perfect in every way without nuance and has numerous men fighting for her attention. It's just a very simplistic view of the character and it makes Stephanie boring.

Animals. Chad screaming "Clyde murdered my wife!" at the top of his lungs while people are trying to get a burger.😂 Go break glassware at your own restaurant, Stefan! Don't cause scenes in other peoples.

Today's episode was okay. I don't have much to say about it. All I have to say is I feel bad for those poor Pub employees. Stefan screaming at them to bring him more drinks, Stefan/Chad yelling at each other across the entire restaurant, and Chad knocking over chairs. I can't believe no one kicked them out. @SoapsudsNo Andrew today. He just called Theresa to meet on the phone. ETA- Welcome to the board @MissPhoenixGirl92!!

Yeah, that really backfired for him lol. I think he was up for a few soap roles that didn't pan out either. Too bad. I thought he was pretty good. Nathan would be a better blast from the past ex for Stephanie than Everett these days.

I am not a Dr, but she was feeling rundown and had a sore throat/troubling swallowing. Those are signs of leukemia. But it could be anything.

I can't recall why I thought Hapka was a problem. I think he was fired and trashed his character or the show or something? It may not have been anything serious, but I don't think either side walked away with happy feelings after his stint.

I was thinking cancer. I have no basis or spoilers on this. Just a guess. I wasn't thinking her heart just because she has been tested so many times.

It definitely should continue to be a conflict. Eric's reaction was so mild and basically "no harm, no foul-Jude is back!" I know it's Nicole, but he should have been more outraged and concerned. I have a feeling it will be something other than heart issues.

I think Nathan was pretty popular. Wasn't Hapka a bit of a problem though? Again, I don't know if we were ever clear if Nathan was an only child, so perhaps a brother or sister could show up. Since Nathan went by the last name Horton I would assume Melissa and his father aren't together still though.

Lars. Then she was with Jack and then Emilio who she ended up killing lol. I wonder if they were going to try to connect Nathan's father to someone on the canvas or bring his father on later, but nope. I guess we will never know. I wasn't even clear if Melissa was still married to Nathan's father or if he had siblings either.