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I meant to post this earlier, but I was watching Thursday's episode and why aren't they giving Rena/Lois anything to do? All she does is talk to Olivia. We are told Olivia/Lois were bff since they were kids, but I have literally no investment in this friendship. Can't she have interactions with the rest of the town?

The show (John) made a joke about the square being indoor when it started snowing in The Beyond Salem Christmas movie. Whether it's a true fact still I don't know. Looking on the internet some people say the roof can open up? It seems to be a source of confusion in general.

The episode aired in July 1996, so you are correct. Marlena was in the cage at this point.

Yikes you weren't lying about Theresa's outfit @AbcNbc247. So ugly! Holly's descent into hardcore drugs was quick. A lot of teenagers get drunk and smoke pot lol, but most don't hit the hard drugs after getting drunk once. Although I know a lot of teens do take Adderall. That OD was pretty graphic too. Nicole was very dressed up to go nowhere. The Xander/Sarah stuff was a little out of place, but Sarah didn't annoy me like she usually does so that's a win. I think I actually wouldn't have minded seeing Paulina/Abe. I think Stephanie had the best dress today. She looked really nice.

Lol! I try. The MLM and anti-vax stuff we can point directly at Steve and find offensive. This situation is just awkward and embarrassing. I don't have enough info to blame Steve for it. Tbh, I think the ex-wife comes off worse, but the circumstances are so vague no one may be at fault here. Anyway, this has nothing to do with current GH so I'll move on.

I think SBu is a jerk for a variety of reasons, but not because of this. Sheree decided to announce she was pregnant. People were congratulating him on the new baby. He was forced to clarify. The obvious thing would have been to announce their separation and then announce her pregnancy. I honestly don't know how else he could have handled it. Ideally, the two of them would have come up with a game plan together for the public and their children, but this doesn't seem like the most cordial of divorces lol.

Yes, it seemed to be very mishandled. If HP was honest with GH and immediately checked into treatment perhaps she would have been given more grace. A sincere apology and her taking accountability would have gone a long way. I don't know why her parents and people around her weren't advising her to make better choices post accident. It put GH in a very big bind when they thought it was a temporary recast only.

LA was recast before HP's legal problems. Same in regards to LA. This is nothing she couldn't play well. BAS Molly was written to be in the cast because HP did break her leg/had a leg injury. Whatever HP told GH/Frank, I think it was assumed she'd be back shortly and her injuries would be written in.

Yes, I can't believe LA is over 30. She could still play a teen believably. I agree the OG Davis girls were fine. I really like Kate Mansi though. I just think LA was nowhere near the top of my list of people to get rid of on GH. She needed more material. She was really good, IMO and could have done this story justice. It's not a huge deal because I think KM will slay this material too. I just think LA was done wrong by GH after years of being a very serviceable team player.

I don't doubt you are correct, but LA played the character for years and also won an emmy for it. I think Haley Pullos and Lexi Ainsworth would have done fine with this story. Kate Mansi is a "get", but I don't think Mansi is that much better of an actress than Lexi. They are both very good. I do, however, concede to your point that LA's looks might have played into it. She still looks so, so young. I am not complaining about Mansi. I think she's doing great. I just don't think the material was out of Lexi's range either.

It's weird to me because I think Lexi could have handled this current material just fine. I know she said it was a "mutual" decision between her and the show, so maybe she didn't want to work that much? Anyway, Kate Mansi is doing great, so I don't have any complaints. I just don't know why the show felt a need to go in a different direction.

I'll be honest, the Paris webisodes were pretty boring IMO. Austin being in them was weird, but I do think it's one of the first Li Shin appearances! Unless you're a Chad/Abby completionist (which I am certainly not) I can't really recall anything too exciting happening. The Last Blast webisodes were much better.

I liked today's episode. Loved the Marlena/Nicole scenes. No matter how unrealistic it was for Marlena to be her psychiatrist. I thought Ari was great! I was cracking up at Drake literally only having one line today. Why was he just sitting in a chair watching Steve threaten Konstantin. So weird lol. @j swiftI am 99% sure Maggie was in town when John/Roman showed up. I believe she was gone from 84-85. She definitely knew John as Roman and had scenes with him.

Just wanted to say Happy Holidays to everyone on this thread! Thank you for you endless insight and great discussions!

Considering the size of the sets I would say that is an accurate assessment.🤣

I want to think there is more to this Paulina story? It might end up being more serious. Because otherwise it was just silly. It would have been nice if Abe ended up being there for her as well today. As @janea4old reminded me, the Town Square is actually an indoor mall. Or has like some sort of dome over it. Seems pricey if you ask me, but I guess that's how everyone does everything out in the open without being cold.

Merry Christmas to all you lovely folks on SON! Today's episode wasn't very Christmas-y. It wasn't a horrible episode, but I do think the show could have done a happier episode with a more Christmas theme. Oh well, it's nice to have a new episode anyhow! Everyone enjoy your holiday!

If you really wanted to keep AB you could have just made her Brenda's mother instead. She needed extensive plastic surgery after the crash or something. She could still be married to the Balkan and they were scaring Brenda to make her more reliant on AB's character so when the truth came out she already needed AB too much to be mad. The Balkan then took it too far and wanted to actually kill Brenda because she was taking up too much of his wife's time and she was becoming obsessed. All of this would have been a mystery to the viewers until Suzanne actually killed the Balkan. You cut out Dante, the mobster son and baby. I am no writer, but I think you could have easily weaved a believable plot together with Suzanne actually being the presumed dead Veronica.

I think you could have still had Adrienne Barbeau. She would have just been one of the good guys and in danger because she was a mother type figure to Brenda so crazy Veronica was jealous and had to get rid of her. I really didn't think much of Hetrick one way or the other. She was okay, if not the best actress, but I didn't think she was the problem. A bigger name should have been Brenda's mother though. JH made no impact on me whether it was the pace, the acting, or the fact she never bonded with Brenda. I guess that says it all. I just have my doubts anyone could have made it work.

I think Vanessa is mostly to blame for the speed of the dead mother story. I think she waited until the very last minute to confirm she was leaving and was going back and forth about re-signing. Guza could have had a plan in place that was more thought out, but we saw in 2003 that wasn't his strong suit. You know, there was probably a pretty easy way to make Veronica the Balkan's wife instead of whatever we got. You tweak the motivation to "protecting" Brenda from Sonny, Jason, whatever the Balkan's son's name was, etc and it actually would have been a decent twist. I am fine, however, with her staying dead.

I felt like I didn't know enough about Veronica before she appeared to make a judgement. Brenda mentioned her, but only in passing until the month or so up until her appearance. I didn't think JH looked anything like Vanessa and this was the shows one chance to cast a Hispanic actress in the part. Anyhow, it felt like an unnecessary complication to the end of Brenda's run. It's not like she was really ever mentioned much again after Brenda returned. I guess the show used the disease as an issue during her 2002 return, but Brenda could have just drove off that cliff and had memory loss or something and you could have essentially told the same story.

Agreed. I laughed a few days ago when he told Theresa all his multiple romances were because he was genuinely in love. Really, Brady?

Don't even get me started on Veronica and that unnamed disease. I was only up to May 1998 in my grievances😂. The show couldn't find anything better for Brenda Barrett to do? So much time was spent on her and Jax (which I loved Jax/Brenda), but it was boring as hell. Jax was obviously always going to forgive her. Her other time was spent yelling at Jason. Julia re-appearing was probably the only bright spot. I can't really say if I felt Veronica was miscast. We knew so little about her. Obviously, looks wise she was.

Poor Stephanie and Chad! Worst couple? They are bad, but Leo/Dmitri were robbed of that honor.

Brady seems a little bit more believable as just a clueless dad. I think he cares, but has no idea how to parent a teenager. I don't know what EOB is doing. I don't think she looks too young to be his mom, but she plays Theresa like the gold digging stepmother instead of Tate's actual mother. It's weird. Maybe it's because she English and less emotional😂?