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You know I was thinking it was weird they were constantly taking Jude out too. But considering the space of Eric/Sloan's place they only two things he can do is be in his crib or stroller.

Listen, no ill will to you or anything, but it's pretty clear you are pro-Deidre and pro-Marlena. That's fine and I am too, but it's coming off like you are completely unwilling to listen to anyone else's thoughts or opinions. Or honestly even actual facts. Wait...I totally do think she's the most important character in Days History. In all seriousness, but I guess other people might not agree.

Oh, man. Now we are getting deep and philosophical here lol. But also correct. I think you are going to run around in circles here, Khan. Sometimes it's hard to admit I am a hardcore Marlena fan because of things like this.

Possibly the little girl that plays Rachel on Days (I don't know the child actors names). She has decent material-not Charlotte level-but I could see it.

Well then I guess in theory it would be more fair next year. The girl that plays Holly on Days is over 18? She looks so young.

You win.🤣

But then they'd all owe their existence to Alice and Tom because Julie was their granddaughter. Which I am fine with.

I agree. My question is was no one else on any of the other soaps in their late teens last year? Is anyone this year? If not then the age limit should be for children or 25.

Well that kid gets enough airtime. I am so sorry. I take it back. You know how I feel about Violet. I agree with this. Technically it was her last chance, so whatever. Hope she enjoys winning against 10 year olds.

I think it's shady what Eden did, but I shudder to think the actress that plays Violet on GH might win one next year lol.

Got it. Though it's still a weird technicality to be sure.

In the Days thread last week I think @janea4old explained there was some discrepancy about Eden's age. Ha! They beat me to the answer.

Using that logic does the entire Brady family owe it's existence to Don since Marlena was brought on to be his love interest?

It seems to be a writing choice to make Sloan so inept to make her more of the villian in the story which isn't really necessary. She already stole a baby. The show doesn't need to pile it on that she has no idea how to raise a child. Sloan is a smart woman. I don't think anyone over the age of 12 would just abandon a baby in the middle of a town square to get their wallet and long enough for Nicole to grab the baby and for Leo to steal the stroller without them seeing one another. I think JS has improved leaps and bounds since she began, but today wasn't her best lol.

I actually don't think it's fair to say characters like Bo/Kayla owe their success to Marlena/Deidre. Idk, I just think if a character is written to be related to someone that's not the reason they exist or become popular. For example, I would say Bo owes his existence more to Hope than he does to Marlena.

I know Marlena's parents were on screen at certain times, but they were never developed at all. I was referring more to her side of the family having stories and appearing on screen in a meaningful way and actually living in Salem.

I liked today's episode as well. From spoilers I was thinking Sloan turned her back for a moment. I didn't think she just left a baby outside to go back into an establishment. What the heck? No adult would do that lol. So, ah, what's Nicole's plan? Just raise the baby in the secret room until it turns 18? Runaway? I actually think Tripp lived with Stephanie and Joey in Seattle for awhile so it is strange he never met Everett. Nothing about those scenes screamed close sibling bond and I thought they did have one. Did Jada go to bed and leave Stephanie/Harris alone the other day? I can't remember. It seems like Jada probably should have made Stephanie stay with her. I am sure nothing happened between Harris/Stephanie, but it's weird Harris couldn't have just said "nothing happened-we will talk later" instead of dragging it out for her.

I don't believe John was a mercenary on his own? Honestly it has changed so many times, but I think he was kidnapped by Petrov/Yo Ling to be brainwashed and made a top mercenary, but brainwashed again to be Roman lol. Lots of brainwashing happened to him basically.

I think the easiest time to integrate Marlena's family was in the early 80's, but the main focus was building the Brady's. There was also probably a great window between Roman's death and RoJohn's appearance as well. By the 90's I guess Marlena had enough to deal with in her romantic life and her own Salem family. I don't really don't know why the show wouldn't easily introduce a long lost son/daughter for Samantha and even teenage grandchildren. The same way they introduced Jada and Talia. Their ties to the canvas are much more flimsy.

It's always been strange to me that the show never really did much with Marlena's side of the family. Outside Sam and a cousin no one else from Marlena's family ever really showed up through all the different regimes and writers. And I suspect Sam was only added because of the novelty of Deidre having a real life twin.

And you can prominently see this man in a wig in several shots. Why didn't he switch places with the non-wig wearing lady seated across from him? @j swiftIt's a little confusing whether or not Tate/Holly go to school together. I think they do, but that makes no sense if Tate is planning on going back to boarding school. No one would transfer to a new school mid-semester and then immediately transfer out a month or two later.

I'll bring the booze to the Leo Goodbye Party!🤣 Today's show was pretty good. John and Marlena were sweet, but was Drake actually wearing John's jacket from 1986 today? Xander and John's scenes were a bit off in dialogue. I liked them, but when was John shady or a bad guy? When he was brainwashed? Not the same at all, Xander lol. Damn, did Holly have to pay for her own shrimp cocktail lol? Tate absolutely was right, but did he really think she dropped the Johnny plot in a day because Tate had a gold card? Poor Lani. Couldn't the show say Eli/Lani just couldn't make it instead of keeping her in jail longer? Needless to say Ari and Dan were the highlights today. Did they not name their baby though? Did I miss it?

Great idea too! I always thought it was strange that the show did so little with Sam. Not even bringing her back to life, but she never had any exes or children that popped out of the woodwork like you said. I think for a number of years Andrea Hall probably would have returned for a short arc and instead we got the first Hattie plot that just went nowhere. And then Deidre doing whatever she was doing with Hattie after that.

Both of those ideas would work too. My thinking was instead of making Alex North a psychopath for no reason he could have blamed Marlena for Sam's death and at least had a reason for this crazy elaborate revenge plan. Sam pretending to be Marlena would also be very in character though.

All pretty interesting ideas. If we needed to use Samantha again I would have changed the Alex North plot. North fed Marlena all these ideas about being married when he was actually married to Samantha and bitter and vengeful about her death. That would have easily solved so many issues with that story and not erased all of Marlena's marriages and been much more believable. That also would have solved the issue of Deidre playing dual roles for an extended period and not retconned Sam's death either.