DramatistDreamer

This is why I was telling a friend that it was more about payback for the U.S. having the temerity to elect and re-elect Obama, it was even stronger than their hatred of Hillary. People are now exclaiming that they are taking back their country and POC have already reported incidents of harrassment and intimidation post election. One Muslim woman has already reported that her hijab wearing cousin was assaulted. The most disturbing thing about this is the number of White women who closed their mouths and voted for Trump. They were the 'silent Trump voter' that his campaign alluded to throughout the campaign. What was weird was that earlier yesterday, by noon the news was announced that the HRC campaign had cancelled the fireworks. Everyone was curious what that meant. I am having flashbacks to Election Day 2000 when I was at University and had an evening writing class and had voted earlier that day and the polls were still open for another 3 hours and this wealthy white guy who was in my class, walks in and says "My Dad told me, it's already been decided, Bush won". We were all stunned but somehow I believed him. Later on, I would hope he was wrong but eventually the kid's father turned out to be correct. Of course, we remember that in 2000 and yesterday, both Democratic candidates won the Popular Vote but lost the Electoral College. This felt similar when the news announced that HRC had cancelled the fireworks. With early voting, there was probably a strong sense of how certain states were going to lean and the media, for ratings, kept up the suspense.

Thanks @Limenade from what I saw on her professional website, she has endured some tough personal losses and it seems that overcoming her personal losses, along with the love for her son and the personal/profession choices that sprouted from that, that has given her a very philosophical holistic outlook. I am not where she is in terms of current outlook, I don't know when or if I can get there but I do appreciate where her words are coming from. It sounds that she is struggling with the results as well but still hoping for good things to flow. When I ventured on her FB page (I hadn't looked too deeply) I was struck by the fact that she appears to have kept in touch with Karina Arroyave (Bianca Marquez Walsh), I think she has kept in touch with quite a few of her ATWT colleagues and I think that's nice. In terms of Ashley Crow and Bill Shanks, yes I read somewhere that they divorced a number of years ago, I think sometime in the late 90s?

To answer your question, I came across this which seems to be the prevailing sentiment going round on social media. Also keep in mind that Hillary won the Popular Vote.

Some time ago, I read that Melanie Smith (Emily #2) is a wellness coach. After the past 18 hours, I wonder whether she can do a group counselling session as a favor to some ATWT fans who need it.

Eerie that I thought about the Trump/Nixon comparison yesterday even before the election results. Mike Pence is pretty awful too though. Not to mention that Cabinet. Let me stop myself before I truly get depressed. I wonder if Trump's administration will start outsourcing surveillance to Russians immediately...or?

Speaking of Bernie, has he said or tweeted anything since the election results?

He sure did according to film critics, he made the case for electing Hillary in TrumpLand, which was released very close to Election time, when he talked about her beginning her career in public service helping children, primarily Black children in the South, working with Marian Wright Edelman. Hardly anyone saw the movie though, because it only opened in a few theaters spontaneously with no promotion.

I keep trying to tell people this but they aren't listening. Michelle was very adamant that she did not have the patience for what goes on in politics. Any who saw her roll her eyes at John Boehner at that dinner years ago, should understand this. Liberals need to stop fantasizing and get realistic. The Republicans coalesced around their candidate, though he was a detestable choice (there is a date set for his rape trial next month, we'll see if that gets cancelled) while people allowed the media to obsess about HRC's e-mails. If Hillary is messy, Trump is a rolling garbage fire. In the end, it came to this commonly used saying. "Democrats (need to) fall in love, Republicans fall in line. I really hope Democrats find that next candidate that liberals can fall in love with because clearly this is what it's gonna take to get that support.

Susan Sarandon is getting dragged.

47% just didn't give a sh*t!

A friend told me that one of her friends messaged her from Florida that she overheard some seniors muttering about this being election "payback" , presumably for Obama's election. I just, sigh.

President Obama just spoke and I caught some of it. It's inconceivable how much I will miss this man!

I saw some of the speech on livestream and wow, I marvel at how Hillary delivered such a magnanimous and graceful speech when so many were in tears around her. Time Kaine's eyes were filled. I didn't focus on Bill Clinton but some said he could barely keep it together.

Similar to what happened to Al Gore. The Electoral College.

To me, there was a confluence of things. White America has really severely disliked Hillary for decades. I don't know whether it was the "not baking cookies" comment or taking back Bill after the affair but the fact that White women abandoned her, says a lot. Many bore a grudge against Obama, never accepted him and seek to stamp out his legacy. Don't let the popularity/approval ratings fool you. People will say one thing in surveys and do another at the ballot box. There is a contingent that is especially bitter that Obama won a second term and sought ways to obliterate any chance of a defacto 'Third Obama term' in a Hillary Clinton administration. Also, some Black millenials (and some Whites) complained that Obama let them down, didn't do enough-- forgetting completely the obstructions he had to face. For me, the one mistake Obama made (if you can call it that) was to believe that Republicans would be reasonable and respect him as Commander-in-Chief and work with him to pass actual legislation. Nope. Well, those who think that Obama fell short, are really going to learn that it can get much worse. The real "rigged system" was the voter suppression that went on in many pockets that had minority populations. For every voter that went to the ACLU or NAACP to lodge a complaint and asserted their rights. Many more were dispirited and gave up. The repeal of the Voting Rights Act, meant many GOP headed states were free to close or, move many voting stations out of urban areas with a more diverse/minority population in favor of suburan/exurban less diverse/Whiter communities. It's downright dispiriting that the media is underplaying or not reporting the role of voter suppression, voter intimidation in all of this. That is going to be a rift for some time to come. Also immigrants. I know some recently naturalized U.S. citizens who voted in their first election yesterday and they are dispirited, depressed. I haven't the words to tell them. Charles Blow is on Twitter right now tweeting that he is struggling for words. In response to someone to tweeted @him to talk about white supremacy and anti-blackness, he said: " I've written about this so much that I'm not sure that I have a new way to discuss it. It exists. It's a problem. America doesn't care... " Many people, including me, feel a breach of trust. I feel more self-conscious of the gulf between what people say and what they do. What people say to my face versus what they are saying when I'm not in the room. What 'they' truly think about me despite their words and rhetoric.

I'm going to try to get some sleep, if I can.

Of course they did! They wanted to punish Dems for choosing Hillary, they will never convince me otherwise. Some did vote for 3rd parties but how does one explain the huge numbers of White Women, as well as men who voted for Trump? Some keep tweeting Michelle 2020. Michelle has been adamant that she doesn't have the patience for politics. I believe her and I would never want her subjected to the racism, sexism and ugliness that is part and parcel of these (dis)United States.

There are troves of Bernie voters claiming to have voted for Trump. I was dubious before but now I certainly believe it.

This!

Let's be clear, for some of us, America has always been hard. Even in the best of times, there have been unarmed Black men and women being shot and killed in the streets, their cars and even in their homes. Life has been "no crystal stair". I will repeat again, Trump has NORMALIZED hate speech so now people feel free to say nasty things and if his rallies are a sign of what's to come, physically assault people! Mass murder may be an exaggeration but many people claimed that having Obamacare saved their lives, if that is repealed, you could have people not going to the doctor and in turn, not being treated for treatable illness with fatal results. This is about people's lives. Many people didn't survive the Bush years. Trump has spoken that he won't hesitate to weaponize his administration. Somene who's been known to say '...beat the hell outta them'. Sorry but I don't feel in any way good about this.

The media helped to normalize Trump as a legitimate candidate. If it was for ratings, they played a dangerous game. Like Putin jails or disappears press/media that oppose him, some form of this is a possibility. My personal finances suffered under Bush's economy but this feels worse. A man who use racist raced baiting, mysogyny, xenophobia and outright vitriolic speech is on the threshold of becoming the next President, I feel like more than my finances will suffer. I don't know whether you can so easily repeal Roe v. Wade but Obamacare will certainly be in serious peril and so is the balance of the Supreme Court. And he STILL never released his taxes! That's how you know all the arguments about it being all just about economic fears was b-ullshit! He was held to a lower standard from the very beginning.

I am Black and a Woman. I cannot hide my skin color nor my gender. I have felt the sting of discrimination even in the best of economic times. I have had ignorant comments told to me as if they were compliments. I have been harassed and called names, men whispering nasty things in my ear and yelling them in the street. I've even been grabbed by at least one rando. Just two houses down, there is a man who had a Trump/Pence sign on his lawn. I have a friend who, over the weekend said she was afraid to leave her house on Election Day. Also a Black Woman. Show of hands, how many people have felt/do feel what I'm going through?