DramatistDreamer

That makes sense, although it is somewhat hilarious that they decided to write an exit story for such an underutilized character.

Apparently there are different types of recurring because when CK was recurring, she was on about as often as she was when on contract. I guess it just depends on a whole other set of criteria. (*shrug*).

This story is about 7 or 8 years too late. This could've been written as a decent lead off to the Lauren and Carmine affair. Is CLB going off the canvas? Or is this departure story related?

Speaking of SoapClassics, Mark Yates, who was the President of SoapClassics apparently runs a company called Creator House Media https://www.creatorhousemedia.com/

Hmm, for some reason Cartagena sticks in my mind but cannot be sure.

Usually, I tend to ignore Tubi but they're giving me some reasons to click on.

Steffi Graf was not beloved until she was retired. I remember during the Italian Open, the Italian press used to refer to her as the "Ugly German girl". The one time that I can remember a "pro Graf" outside of Germany was when she played Martina Hingis at Roland Garros and Hingis upset at a call that had gone against her and, as she argued what she considered to be a bad call, crossed on the other side (her opponent's side) of the net, which is considered a big faux pas. Hingis got booed relentlessly and dissolved into tears and never recovered during the match, which Steffi came back and won. Hingis' coach and mother came on court after the match (something that would never be allowed today) to console Martina, and help Hingis collect herself for the trophy ceremony. That's the one time when I can remember a solidly pro-Graf crowd outside of Germany. No Steffi didn't handle things the best in the wake of Seles' attack, but neither did anyone else, the courts handling the criminal case especially. Steffi may also have been preoccupied by the tax evasion case that looked over her. Though her father handled her finances, any discrepancies were Steffi's responsibility and from what I remember, she faced the possibility of actual jail time (which didn't happen). Sabatini may have been less accomplished than Graf but she was more popular. I remember cheering Gabriela throughout her U.S. Open final against Graf and was elated when she took the championship match and I actually enjoy watching Graf. But Gaby was known then as the "Princess Of The Pompador".

He is who we all thought he was.

I read her memoir several years ago and remember her talking about her weight gain in the wake of her father's illness and death and how the weight caused her foot injuries. When Seles was number one and the stabbing happened, I wasn't able to see the match because I was in school at the time and could only see the news footage. It was shocking, like looking at some other sport, some place that I could not recognize. It was only years later, watching that ESPN SportsCentury documentary, that I would learn how the WTA had voted against freezing Seles' ranking in place while she was off the Tour recuperating. It was cold-blooded but the WTA shouldn't have put it to a vote, they should have just done the right thing and automatically froze her ranking like they do nowadays-- they don't give players any say on the matter, they just do it. People are under the impression that WTA is a union, it is not- it has a Player's Council but when there are decisions to be made on tournaments, especially the majors, they usually don't consult the players at all. As for Steffi, she should have reacted sooner, but with an abusive father and zealous fanatics that she clearly wanted no part of, Steffi had her share of personal problems too.

Hopefully the surgery and recovery will all be successful for Allyson.

At first, I thought this was yesterday's news being recycled but apparently this happened again today.

Critiques aside, mission accomplished?

One consistent critique of the documentary is that it was it didn't delve deeply enough (another complaint this is somewhat tangential is that the doc was too short) but Janet Jackson has always been somewhat of a mysterious woman, perhaps the result of being from a famous family that has been in the spotlight since she was a very young child. She was never going to give viewers everything. How exactly do people think she was able to keep a nearly decade old marriage a secret in front of the eyes of the world? The New York Times Arts section does call Janet "an astonishingly modern pop superstar" which actually sounds accurate. And this is where the line is and should be drawn between Women of Color and Black Women. I realize that not everyone's struggles are the same but Black women in the United States have a profoundly different experience worldwide and in the United States. Black women were the only women brought to the Americas in chains and bred for commerce. The vestiges of that history are still reverberating to this day and neither money nor education nor class has allowed escape this reality. My mother, my aunts have experienced this, I have experienced this, which is why I recognize things for how they truly are.

Not wanting to get into comparisons, but there is a brutal history of both hypersexualization of Black girls and women, while simultaneously punishing Black women who do have the temerity to take ownership of their own sexuality in a way that does not happen with other women. It just doesn't. So, you can have something as a blink and you miss it moment of a breast that hardly anyone even saw until the media decided to replay the instance over and over incur the wrath of a head of a network for at least a full decade. Also, those who watched the documentary know that the Superbowl was not the only incident of a corporation taking putative measures for something associated with the actions of someone else. Up thread, I mentioned what happened with Coca-Cola. But I do think the more mainstream success one has the more one is able to get away with. In that case, Janet did not have that prolonged amount of mainstream success. I don't know what Black women has that. Beyonce? Eventually "they" came for her too by the time of Formation. Things have changed since then and fortunately, Beyonce could not have cared less. And feminism within the U.S. has historically left out, diminished or flat out ignored the struggles of Black women.

This is still happening. An ongoing occurrence.

So you're saying you basically believe that Janet orchestrated the breast flash the way Madonna planned her book launch? I just want to be clear on what you're saying.

Why has this descended into a Madonna vs. Janet in a thread that was discussing the documentary? And this feels like this has happened before?

I don't think there is so much an Easy/West divide as much as it's Novak vs. others. There were far higher numbers of more visible, prominent players from the Balkans 15-20 years ago than now. You had Seles, Ivanisevic, Ljubicic, Majoli, Dokic, Prpic, etc. Three of those names won at least one major title. Then add on Ivanovic and Jankovic. Nobody had it harder than Seles who was stabbed on court and as an ethnic Hungarian was part of a minority group even with the former Yugoslavia. When you go into Russia alone 15-20 years ago you had a ton more prominent players who dwarf today's numbers. Kafelnikov, Safin, Kuznetsova, Myskina, Demientieva, Safina, Tursunov, not to mention Kournikova. I have been following tennis for a very long time now and there isn't geographic divide in the sport. There are pockets of ethno-nationalism, among European fans from those areas and among MAGA-philic fans.

There is more to theater than musicals. Janet actually has dramatic ability since the days of Penny on Good Times. I agree that it would be beneath her to try to compete with the kids as she would call them. There are other musical directions in which she can go. She seems content right now so I don't think she has to run out there to make bank, I doubt she's in a cash crunch or anything.

Minor characters on soaps continue to provide the biggest source of intrigue in this category for me. On B&B in particular, all of the Black characters who come on in the first few years are pretty much minor characters. I saw an actor who played a forensic pathologist and didn't really recognize him but he was good looking, lol, and I checked for his name in the closing credits. Jesse Moore seems to be quite a Renaissance man.

In the short-term, maybe a few social media posts and momentarily, some talk. Probably an attempt at a promo or two that people will puzzle over. Over the long-term, it will only serve to further erode the possibilities for the viability of this character and further diminish the show's prospects and its legacy as entertainment. You know, the usual.

I sincerely hope no Democrats get enmeshed in all this Republican infighting. It's little more than a distraction to Democrats' goals.

Over the past two decades, SORASing has been employed really recklessly and has done more harm than good to the legacy of these soaps. Noah has not had a halfway decent storyline since the character reached adulthood. And somehow fans have pinned it on actor after actor. When does this become about poor writing and nonexistent direction for this character?

That promo doesn't make sense. Why can no one ever write a decent story for Noah? It's not that hard. It can't be every actor who is impossible to write a decent story. What does Noah do? What are his interests? Find an interior life that doesn't involve a romantic partner and work your way outward from there. C'mon Josh, do better!