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  1. 23rd (and final) era: August 27, 1980 - August 25, 1981 Obviously, this is far from the "final" era, as ATWT debuted in 1956. However, this is the earliest "checkpoint" I have that I feel I may actually be able to make sense of. In the various pages I have listed as sources, there are actually a few more episode numbers from pre-1980. As I stated previously, I will be taking this project to a separate thread, where I hope to create a "full" (meaning: as full as possible) episode list for the show, keeping track of verified airings and pre-emptions, that can be updated if any lost episodes should re-surface online. I will list any pre-1980 episode numbers I know in that separate thread. So, for now, August 27, 1980 is as early as I'll go back. As stated in my previous post, episode #6,559 aired on August 25, 1981. According to the Corporate Archives in Cincinnati, OH (http://www.oocities.org/televisioncity/studio/5185/sources/vidsources.html), episode #6,300 aired on August 27, 1980. These episode numbers actually line up perfectly, meaning no episodes would have been pre-empted in between these two dates. I must admit I'm a little suspicious of no episodes having been pre-empted in an entire year... This would mean both the US Open and the Thanksgiving pre-emptions started after 1980. But I do get the sense that there used to be far fewer pre-emptions before the 80's came along. So maybe it's right after all? Either way, these are the dates that I would have suspected could have been pre-empted, but apparently weren't (it would be great if we could verify these episodes as having aired, but since we're already in 1980, I won't get my hopes up): September 1, 1980: US Open? September 5, 1980: US Open? November 27, 1980: Thanksgiving? November 28, 1980: Thanksgiving? December 25, 1980: Christmas? December 31, 1980: New Year's Eve? January 1, 1981: New Year's Day? One other interesting tidbit from this era: The March 30, 1981 episode was partially pre-empted due to the Reagan shooting. I'm assuming, since it was a partial pre-emption, that it wasn't re-broadcast, and thus, for the purposes of this project, I count it as an airing. As always, any info on these dates and more will be much appreciated!
  2. 22nd era: August 25, 1981 - October 6, 1982 As specified in my last post, episode #6,840 aired on October 6, 1982. According to the Corporate Archives in Cincinnati, OH (http://www.oocities.org/televisioncity/studio/5185/sources/vidsources.html), episode #6,559 aired on August 25, 1981. Based on these episode numbers, 10 episodes must have been pre-empted in between these two dates. November 2, 1981 saw the debut of new theme music. According to the page on the show's theme music history from the same site where I got all the old archived episodes (http://www.oocities.org/televisioncity/studio/5185/music.html, under 'Theme #4: The World Turns On And On'), that episode was #6,606. However, in the section on the previous theme music, which was last heard the previous day on October 30, 1981 (under 'Theme #1: 'Theme for As The World Turns') it mentions the theme was heard "roughly the first 6605 episodes". Therefore, I'm not sure if I can count #6,605 (October 30, 1981) and #6,606 (November 2, 1981) as verified episode numbers. However, IF these two numbers are correct, there would need to have been 2 pre-emptions between August 25, 1981 and October 30, 1981. The only two contenders I have for these slots are: September 9, 1981: US Open? September 11, 1981: US Open? IF these should be correct, it's reasonable to assume that the US Open pre-emptions for 1982, 1983, 1984 and 1985 are correct as well. Following the above logic, we would need to find 8 pre-emptions between November 2, 1981 and October 6, 1982. I have seven contenders: November 26, 1981: Thanksgiving? November 27, 1981: Thanksgiving? December 25, 1981: Christmas? December 31, 1981: New Year's Eve? January 1, 1982: New Year's Day? September 6, 1982: US Open? September 10, 1982: US Open? IF the #6,605 and 6,606 episode numbers should not be correct, I simply have the above-listed nine contenders for the 10 pre-emptions between August 25, 1981 and October 6, 1982. As always any info on these dates and more will be much appreciated!
  3. 21st era: October 6, 1982 - October 29, 1982 As specified in my last post, episode #6,857 aired on October 29, 1982. According to the Corporate Archives in Cincinnati, OH (http://www.oocities.org/televisioncity/studio/5185/sources/vidsources.html), episode #6,840 aired on October 6, 1982. These two episode numbers actually perfectly line up, which means that no episodes were pre-empted in between these two dates.
  4. 20th era: October 29, 1982 - May 20, 1983 As specified in my last post, episode #7,000 aired on May 20, 1983. According to the Jerome Lawrence & Robert E. Lee Theatre Research Institute at Ohio State University (http://www.oocities.org/televisioncity/studio/5185/sources/papsources.html), episode #6,857 aired on October 29, 1982. Based on these episode numbers, 2 episodes must have been pre-empted in between these two dates. I have three contenders listed: November 25, 1982: Thanksgiving? November 26, 1982: Thanksgiving? December 31, 1983: New Year's Eve? I'm inclined to assume that it was probably the two Thanksgiving dates that were pre-empted here. If that's the case, then it's reasonable to assume that both Thanksgiving dates were pre-empted in 1983, 1984 and 1985 as well. However, as I stated before, Thanksgiving Friday definitely aired in 1979, and based on the episode numbers, I'm led to believe that episodes may have aired on BOTH Thanksgiving dates in 1980 (which we'll get to in a few posts). So, IF both episodes aired in 1980 and IF they were both pre-empted in 1982 (a lot of IFs), then the Thanksgiving policy must have changed in 1981 or 1982. As always, any info will be much appreciated!
  5. 19th era: May 20, 1983 - August 2, 1984 As specified in my last post, episode #7,307 aired on August 2, 1984. According to this timeline (http://www.oocities.org/televisioncity/studio/5185/dates.html, on the same page where I found all the archived episodes), episode #7,000 aired on May 20, 1983. Based on these episode numbers, 7 episodes must have been pre-empted in between these two dates. I have no pre-emptions verified, but I do have four contenders: September 5, 1983: US Open? September 9, 1983: US Open? November 24, 1983: Thanksgiving? November 25, 1983: Thanksgiving? As always, any info on these dates and more will be much appreciated!
  6. 18th era: August 2, 1984 - November 13, 1984 As specified in my last post, episode #7,377 aired on November 13, 1984. According to the Corporate Archives in Cincinnati, OH (http://www.oocities.org/televisioncity/studio/5185/sources/vidsources.html), episode #7,307, aired on August 2, 1984. Based on these episode numbers, 3 episodes must have been pre-empted in between these two dates. I have no verified pre-emptions, but I do have two contenders: September 3, 1984: US Open? September 7, 1984: US Open? As always, any info on these dates will be much appreciated. Even if both of these are indeed correct, that still leaves 1 pre-emption unaccounted for.
  7. Right... now that you mentioned that I remember reading that last year. Thanks for clarifying that!
  8. Hmmm... that's interesting. I guess that makes sense, especially as soap fans became more vocal about not missing their stories. I guess it's similar to how the February 1, 1994 episode was re-broadcast the day after (as I mentioned in an earlier post), so those affected by the pre-emption wouldn't miss anything. I always assumed that back in the day, when soaps were pre-empted for live news, the episode was just 'lost' and it would pick up on the next episode the next day. Obviously this must have been the case for the live days (like the JFK pre-emption), but I'm not sure how they went about it when they started pre-recording. I was surprised to find out about the re-broadcast. Still, if you try to connect the episode numbers, it's obvious that both in 1987 (Iran-Contra hearings) and in 1994 (O.J.) there were more pre-emptions than in an average year, so I'm guessing a lot of it was still pre-empted.
  9. 17th era: November 13, 1984 - April 2, 1986 As specified in my last post, episode #7,729 aired on April 2, 1986. According to Corporate Archives in Cincinnati, OH (http://www.oocities.org/televisioncity/studio/5185/sources/vidsources.html), episode #7,377 aired on November 13, 1984. Based on these episode numbers, 9 episodes must have been pre-empted in between these two dates. As of 1985, I am not certain about any of the 'standard' pre-emptions. I'm not sure when CBS started pre-empting for US Open in September, but I have it confirmed from 1986 onwards. Similarly, from 1986 onwards, Thanksgiving thursdays and fridays were always pre-empted. However, if WeLoveSoapsVideos dated its episodes properly, an episode aired on Thanksgiving friday in 1979. As a result, I will not be counting any Thanksgiving or US Open pre-emptions as 'certain' before 1986 and will count them as 'potential pre-emptions instead'. Unfortunately, this means that I have no pre-emptions confirmed in this era. I have eleven episodes listed as 'potential pre-emptions', but that's actually two too many, as there should only be 9 pre-emptions. Here are the contenders: November 22, 1984: Thanksgiving? November 23, 1984: Thanksgiving? December 25, 1984: Christmas? January 1, 1985: New Years Day? (Alternatively, December 31, 1984: New Year's Eve?) September 2, 1985: US Open? September 6, 1985: US Open? November 28, 1985: Thanksgiving? November 29, 1985: Thanksgiving? December 25, 1985: Christmas? (This seems likely, since December 24 is the Christmas episode... unfortunately, Dan Region doesn't announce the pre-emption) January 1, 1986: New Year's Day? (December 31, 1985 is confirmed as airing!) January 28, 1986: I had this listed as pre-empted in my research from last year, but couldn't retrace it this year... As always, any info on these dates will be much appreciated! I might post some more later today... I have about 5 more "eras" to go to get to my earliest "checkpoint"... Once I've posted those, I'm thinking about starting a separate thread where I'll basically post my entire excel file, with references to where all the episodes can be found. That way, we can all contribute if, say, some never before seen episodes should resurface (fingers crossed!)...
  10. 16th era: April 2, 1986 - November 7, 1986 As specified in my last post, episode #7,884 aired on November 7, 1986. According to both the Corporate Archives in Cincinnati, OH, as well as the ATAS-UCLA Television Archives (both found at http://www.oocities.org/televisioncity/studio/5185/sources/vidsources.html), episode #7,729 aired on April 2, 1986 (the 30th anniversary episode). Based on these episode numbers, 2 episodes were pre-empted in between these two dates. I have both pre-emptions confirmed: 1986 (post-April 2; pre-November 7): September 1 & 5
  11. 15th era: November 7, 1986 - November 3, 1987 As specified in my last post, episode #8,120 aired on November 3, 1987. According to the Corporate Archives in Cincinnati, OH (http://www.oocities.org/televisioncity/studio/5185/sources/vidsources.html), episode #7,884 aired on November 7, 1986. Based on these two episode numbers, 21 episodes must have been pre-empted in between these two dates. I'm certain of these seven pre-emptions: 1986 (post-November 7): November 27 & 28; December 25 1987 (pre-November 3): January 1; July 23; September 7 & 11 That leaves 14 pre-emptions unaccounted for... Obviously, this era was plagued by the Iran-Contra hearings, which were between July 13 and August 7. As indicated above, I have confirmed the July 23 episode as pre-empted. Meanwhile, I've confirmed the July 21, 22 & 24 episodes, as well as the August 5, 6 & 7 episodes as airing. Which means the following 13 episodes may have been pre-empted: July 13, 1987 July 14, 1987 July 15, 1987 July 16, 1987 July 17, 1987 July 20, 1987 July 27, 1987 July 28, 1987 July 29, 1987 July 30, 1987 July 31, 1987 August 3, 1987 August 4, 1987 Even if all of these episodes were pre-empted, there would still need to be another pre-emption unaccounted for. More likely, a large number of the above episodes were pre-empted and there were a few more elsewhere in the era. As always, any info on these dates will be much appreciated!
  12. Great find! Thank you so much! That February 20 pre-emption means I can now connect that era that was driving me crazy. May I ask where you found these? I've been meaning to look through newspaper listings myself, but most sites are unfortunately blocked outside of the US (which is where I am). Re: inaugurations... I feel like actual inaugurations (presidents' first terms) were always pre-empted. The thing that makes no sense to me is that January 20, 2005 (W. Bush's second term) was pre-empted, but January 20, 1997 (Clinton's second term) was not. Oh well.
  13. 14th era: November 3, 1987 - February 17, 1989 As specified in my last post, episode #8,445 aired on February 17, 1989. According to the Corporate Archives in Cincinnati, OH (http://www.oocities.org/televisioncity/studio/5185/sources/vidsources.html), episode #8,120 aired on November 3, 1987. Based on these two episode numbers, 13 episodes must have been pre-empted in between these two dates. I'm certain of these seven pre-emptions: 1987 (post-November 3): November 26 & 27 1988: January 1; September 5 & 9; November 24 & 25 That leaves 6 pre-emptions unaccounted for. I have 3 educated guesses, which I have not yet been able to confirm: December 25, 1987: Christmas? January 2, 1989: I'm hearing the Cotton Bowl may have been held that day, since January 1 was a Sunday? January 20, 1989: Bush Inauguration? As for the other 3 pre-emptions, your guess is as good as mine. As always, any info on these airdates will be much appreciated. Next time: November 11, 1986 - November 3, 1987; April 2, 1986 - November 11, 1986; November 13, 1984 - April 2, 1986
  14. 13th era: February 17, 1989 - March 20, 1989 This one is driving me nuts, because it's such a short period and I'm so close to connecting it fully... As specified in my last post, episode #8,465 aired on March 20, 1989. According to Corporate Archives in Cincinnati, OH (http://www.oocities.org/televisioncity/studio/5185/sources/vidsources.html), episode #8,445 aired on February 17, 1989. Based on these two episode numbers, 1 episode must have been pre-empted in between these two dates. I can rule out the February 22 & 23 episodes, as well as the March 16 & 17 episodes, which I've all confirmed as airing. That leaves the following 16 contenders for the sole pre-emption: February 20, 1989 February 21, 1989 February 24, 1989 February 27, 1989 February 28, 1989 March 1, 1989 March 2, 1989 March 3, 1989 March 6, 1989 March 7, 1989 March 8, 1989 March 9, 1989 March 10, 1989 March 13, 1989 March 14, 1989 March 15, 1989 As always, any info on these dates will be much appreciated!
  15. 12th era: March 20, 1989 - July 17, 1989 As specified in my last post, episode #8,550 aired on July 17, 1989 According to the ATAS-UCLA Television Archives (http://www.oocities.org/televisioncity/studio/5185/sources/vidsources.html), episode #8,465 aired on March 20, 1989. These two episode numbers actually perfectly match up, which means that presumably no episodes were pre-empted in between these two dates.
  16. 11th era: July 17, 1989 - September 29, 1989 According to the ATAS-UCLA Television Archives, episode #8,602 aired on September 29, 1989 (which makes sense, as according to my last post, episode #8,603 aired on October 2, 1989, which is the following Monday. According to the same source, as well as the Corporate Archives in Cincinnati, OH, AND the Museum of Broadcast Communications in Chicago (all found at http://www.oocities.org/televisioncity/studio/5185/sources/vidsources.html), episode #8,550 aired on July 17, 1989. Based on these episode numbers, 2 episodes must have been pre-empted in between these two dates. I've confirmed both of the pre-emptions: 1989 (post-July 17; pre-September 29): September 4 & 8
  17. 10th era: October 2, 1989 - December 8, 1989 As specified in my last post, episode #8,650 aired on December 8, 1989. According to the Corporate Archives in Cincinnati, OH (http://www.oocities.org/televisioncity/studio/5185/sources/vidsources.html), episode #8,603 aired on October 2, 1989. Based on these episode numbers, 2 episodes must have been pre-empted in between these two dates. I've confirmed both of these pre-emptions: 1989 (post-October 2; pre-December 8): November 23 & 24
  18. 9th era: December 8, 1989 - July 30, 1990 As specified in my last post, episode #8,812 aired on July 30, 1990. According to the ATAS-UCLA Television Archives (http://www.oocities.org/televisioncity/studio/5185/sources/vidsources.html), episode #8,781 aired on June 15, 1990. This matches up perfectly with episode #8,812 on July 30, meaning every episode in between likely aired. The same source says that episode #8,650 aired on December 8th, 1989. Based on these episode numbers, 4 episodes must have been pre-empted in between these dates. I am certain of these two pre-emptions: 1990 (pre-June 15): January 1; May 28 That leaves 2 pre-emptions unaccounted for. I have no leads as to which dates they might have been, but there are only 29 contenders: December 11, 1989 December 12, 1989 December 13, 1989 December 14, 1989 December 15, 1989 December 20, 1989 December 21, 1989 December 22, 1989 December 26, 1989 December 27, 1989 January 3, 1990 January 8, 1990 January 11, 1990 January 31, 1990 February 1, 1990 February 13, 1990 February 14, 1990 February 15, 1990 February 23, 1990 February 26, 1990 March 16, 1990 March 21, 1990 March 26, 1990 March 29, 1990 April 4, 1990 April 16, 1990 April 17, 1990 May 3, 1990 May 10, 1990 As always, any info on any of these air dates will be much appreciated! Next time: the remainder of 1989, which is broken up into about four more eras, including one that drives me crazy, where there is only 1 pre-emption unaccounted for.
  19. 8th era: July 30, 1990 - January 8, 1991 As specified in my last post, episode #8,920 aired on January 8, 1991. According to the ATAS-UCLA Television Archives (http://www.oocities.org/televisioncity/studio/5185/sources/vidsources.html), episode #8,812 aired on July 30, 1990. Based on these two episode numbers, 8 episodes must have been pre-empted in between these two dated. I'm certain of these four pre-emptions: 1990 (post-July 30): September 3 & 7; November 22 & 23 That leaves 4 more pre-emptions. I have suspect these episodes could possibly have been pre-empted, but haven't been able to verify: October 4, 1990: Major League? October 5, 1990: Major League? October 8, 1990: Major League? October 9, 1990: Major League? October 10, 1990: Major League? October 11, 1990: Major League? October 12, 1990: Major League? December 25, 1990: Christmas? December 31, 1990: New Year's Eve? January 1, 1991: New Year's Day? As always, any info on these dates will be much appreciated!
  20. 7th era: January 8, 1991 - June 3, 1991 As specified in my last post, episode #9,019 aired on June 3, 1991. According to Chicago's Museum of Broadcast Communications (http://www.oocities.org/televisioncity/studio/5185/sources/vidsources.html), episode #8,920 aired on January 8, 1991. Based on these two episode numbers, 5 episodes must have been pre-empted in between these two dates. I'm certain of these pre-emptions: 1991 (post-January 8; pre-June 3): March 14 & 15 That leaves 3 more pre-emptions. Unfortunately, I don't really have any leads on which other dates may have been pre-empted here, so, as usual, any info will be much appreciated!
  21. Thanks for that info, ~bl~ ! I'll add it to the notes I've scribbled in my file. If one or two of these days were pre-empted, though, it would mean that either December 31 or January 1, or both, weren't pre-empted (which isn't completely unheard of). I'll see if I can find out more about the baseball pre-emptions. According to btm0815ma's comments the February 1, 1994 episode (The Bell Tower, which is on the Holden & Lily DVD) was pre-empted in the Eastern time zone for a CBS special news report on the Tonya Harding/Nancy Kerrington situation. Because a large part of the country missed the episode, it was then re-broadcast on February 2. I had heard about the re-broadcast in another place as well (although I can't recall now where it was), but wasn't aware of the reason for the pre-emption until I read the comments on magilla's channel. You are certain, then, that the January 17 episode was pre-empted? Because I can't find it anywhere else than in those comments by btm0815ma on magilla's channel (again, not that I don't believe them, they seem to know what they're talking about... I'm just a little hesistant to accept any info too eagerly, as it will be impossible to track where I went wrong once a mistake slips in there).
  22. 6th era: June 3, 1991 - October 2, 1991 As specified in my last post, episode #9,102 aired on October 2, 1991. According to Chicago's Museum of Broadcast Communications (http://www.oocities.org/televisioncity/studio/5185/sources/vidsources.html), episode #9,019 aired on June 3, 1991. Based on these two episode numbers, 4 episodes were pre-empted between these two dates. I'm certain of these two pre-emptions: 1991 (post-June 3; pre-October 2): September 2 & 6 That leaves 2 more pre-emptions. Unfortunately, I have no leads whatsoever as to which other two dates could have possibly been pre-empted in this era. As always, any information will be much appreaciated! Up next: January 8, 1991 - June 3, 1991...
  23. 5th era: October 2, 1991 - November 10, 1992 As specified in my last post, episode #9,381 aired on November 10, 1992. According to the Corporate Archives in Cincinnati, OH (http://www.oocities.org/televisioncity/studio/5185/sources/vidsources.html), episode #9,102 aired on October 2, 1991. Based on these two episode numbers, 10 episodes were pre-empted between these two dates. I'm sure of these 8 pre-emptions: 1991 (post-October 2): November 28 & 29; December 25 1992 (pre-November 10): February 17; March 19 & 20; September 7 & 11. That leaves 2 more pre-emptions. There are 2 episodes that I suspect may have been pre-empted: December 31, 1991: New Year's Eve January 1, 1992: New Year's Day Since I have no other suspicions about pre-emptions in this era, I'm assuming these are correct. But since the logic behind December 31 & January 1 pre-emptions is kind of unclear to me, as well as the fact that very few episodes from this era are (currently) available online (there could have easily been a random separate pre-emption in there somewhere), I would still much appreciate if anyone can verify (or contest) these two dates. I'll be back later with June 3 - October 2, 1991
  24. Since that one wasn't really a question, here's the next one: 4th era: November 10, 1992 - February 3, 1993 As specified in my last post, episode #9,437 aired on February 3, 1993. According to the Corporate Archives in Cincinnati, OH (http://www.oocities.org/televisioncity/studio/5185/sources/vidsources.html), episode #9,381 aired on November 10, 1992. Based on these two episode numbers, 5 episodes were pre-empted in between those two dates. I'm sure of these four pre-emptions: 1992 (post-November 10): November 26 & 27; December 25 1993 (pre-February 3): January 20 That leaves 1 more pre-emption, which I would guess is either one of these two options: December 31, 1992: New Year's Eve January 1, 1993: New Year's Day Since January 1-episodes were pre-empted more often than December 31-episodes, I would guess January 1 was pre-empted and December 31 aired. Unfortunately, though, there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to the December 31 and January 1 pre-emptions. For example: In 2004 there was a random airing on January 1, something that defintely didn't happen any other time since 1998 at least, and I in fact have no other January 1-episodes confirmed since 1981. Meanwhile, December 31 was always pre-empted after 1997, but definitely aired in 1985, 1986 and 1987. Again, any info on the above two episode dates, as well as any info that helps making sense of CBS's December 31 & January 1 policy, is much appreciated. I'll be back later (I'm not sure I'll have time tomorrow, but I should definitely be back the day after) with another connected era (October 2, 1991 - November 10, 1992), as well as another unconnected one (June 3, 1991 - October 2, 1991).
  25. 3rd era: February 3, 1993 - July 12, 1993 This one I've actually managed to connect. So no questions this time, just supplying some info. As specified in my last post, episode #9,548 aired on July 12, 1993. February 3, 1993 saw the debut of Jelinda's theme. According to this page (http://www.oocities.org/televisioncity/studio/5185/music.html) on the show's music history, it was episode #9,437. Based on these two numbers, the show must have been pre-empted twice between these two dates. And since CBS pre-empted the show for NCAA Men's Basketball in March every year since 1991, these must be the dates: 1993 (post-February 3; pre-July 12): March 18 & 19
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