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2/13/87 credits at about 6:05 in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9XL0VEPol8

The end of this has an April 1987 ad for B&B that I hadn't seen before - it starts out like the others but then turns into being a promo for Ridge. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoKSLLb-IJk

4/2/87 ad at about a little under 6:30. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoKSLLb-IJk

4/9/87 ad at about 2:05 in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tQBKQ28t1U

The OLTL credit crawl for 6/17/87. It's at about 3:30 in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl1yeuF-yFE

2/6/87 promo I hadn't seen before. It tells you something about Lenore Kasdorf's appeal that they had her in this ad mentioning GL (I know this was a campaign at the time, but still, the other people in this were big names on their soaps, RSW, Genie Francis, etc.). It's too bad her stay at SB was so short-lived. The ad is at 3 minutes in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sz_ITq76CI

1988 Santa Barbara promo I'd never seen before. It's about 1:15 in.

1984 ad for Dean Witter. I wonder how many AMC fans saw this and wondered if he was still trying to poison Edna. It's about a minute in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fxoc4ftCV7U

8/12/84 ad, about 9:15. I hadn't seen this before. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fxoc4ftCV7U

5/4/87, Loving promo at about 5 minutes in. It's a good little promo. You can see why Randolph Mantooth became so popular in the role. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em4W_h0SUdE

Thanks. I thought that was Lorena but that hair was so horrendous I thought it might have been Grandmama from the Addam's Family.

November 1987 ad at about 2 minutes in. I'd never seen this one before. It's better work from Lauren Holly than usual. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5HzFKYDvsg

GH ad near the end of this clip. It's fairly long for a soap ad, with a lot of different stories from August 1984. Who are the characters in the scene where the man says "Welcome to the real world" and kisses her? Is that John Callahan? I think he was a sleazy masseuse on GH or something. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjoSaH9WCQg

Thanks. So this was when the credits was a new scene, right? I miss that so much.

8/9/84 ad at about 3:38. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjoSaH9WCQg

8/9/84 ad I hadn't seen before, with Mike/Erica. It's at about 3:30. So in the end did they say he really was dead? I wish they'd done more with him. I liked Mike and Erica a lot (I would have rather seen that than more Jack/Erica playing out the same scenes again and again). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjoSaH9WCQg

OK. For some reason I thought she had dark hair at one point. That's not the first Skye, right? I think Robin was in the role by this time? I wonder who it is.

1/4/93 OLTL commercial at about 6:35. I haven't seen it before. It's Jason/LeAnn. It's very stylish. I like it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1csxWVQUpQs

1/4/93 AMC commercial bumper, with Opal voiceover, at about 1:00. Another bumper at about 2:30. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1csxWVQUpQs

I do think he would have done more to give Mary a dignifed end - the abruptness with Mary's death seemed to be what upset people the most. I also don't think he would have created Rachel - she wasn't his type of character. I think he probably would have done more with John/Pat like giving John a crazy and not actually dead wife (Lee's mother). Lee probably would have been a central character.

For anyone who enjoys closing credits, here's the June 16, 1987 AMC closing credits. This is about 5:30 into the clip. Who is that? Silver? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_XDoS7Ly8Y

1987 Maeve Maguire ad for Caltrate. It starts a few second before 5:00. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_XDoS7Ly8Y

I will always defend that finale, many flaws and all (Sam Groom as a minister why??). It helps that Carolyn Hinsey didn't like it. I do wonder what Bill Bell would have done. I think he probably would have written Mary out too, but for different reasons. I think he would have kept Liz more viperous and also sexualized her a little more. I can see her as lusting after Steve, secretly, and making life hell for Alice/Steve as a result. Or lusting after John Randolph.

I don't have that, I'm sorry

I think that can work with proper material - they managed to do this pretty well with Richard Bekins, making Jamie a decent man with many demons and insecurities. That's what Jamie should have been. They also should have done more with his Frame side.