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Thanks. So he may get the ghoulish soap free future he wants. What exactly caused a surge for these shows anyway? They always seem interchangeable to me.

Thanks for sharing. I didn't know Chris had had a stroke. Beautiful to see how much they've supported him.

To be honest I had long stopped watching B&B by that point, aside from clips here and there. I had forgotten about her being on there. You're right, she was well-liked.

Considering that the show had a noticeable ratings drop last year after making very minimal changes that amounted to canning FOFs, longer scenes and "a few characters think Sonny is bad...for a month," ABC may think people will move on even more with extra changes. Looking at the ratings year on year it seems GH actually went up in a key demo, so maybe ABC figures that's alright? I don't know. I wonder if that exec who wanted to have soulless GMA clones replace GH is still working at ABC.

GL had Reva on trial for Annie's miscarriage. AMC had a trial for Michael Cambias' murder. I generally find trials on soaps to be tedious and prone to self-parody, although they have their moments.

That makes me laugh. If anyone knew that it was Peggy. Reminds me of the story she told about making Lad, a Dog, and how they had cheap cars while the dog arrived in a limo.

I still think Diane dying by the hands of Carrie rather than the people viewers had seen her battling for years was a bit of a copout, but I also know I've only seen some scattered episodes so shouldn't assume. Likely so. I wonder if Long/Kobe always planned the story of Philip going bad (the first version, in 1984, not the second version in 1988). Unfortunately, between firing Tom O'Rourke and Chris Bernau quitting, there were no ramifications, beyond some brief angst for Beth. Then Grant quit so viewers had even less reason to care, attractive as John Bolger may have been.

They did confirm that Nate was dead, if that counts...still, the show could cull so many. What I notice most in these clips is how bleak the show is. I am not sure if there are any laughs to be found. I guess Mandy is meant to be the comic relief, but that's not very much.

I have a lot of respect for MVJ. I just don't have any trust in the other people involved. I hope it works out. You're right that the Sprina fans may watch. I was thinking more about the current GH viewers as I assume most of them quit last year, given Trina's treatment. The scene alone of her groveling to Joss and calling herself a bitch would have driven me away if I had mostly been invested in the character or her relationships.

Thanks @chrisml . At least we know that wasn't BS, as Barbara said on Locher Room she'd been a fan before joining the show.

I don't think GH in of itself is going to be a lot of competition as they likely have different audiences - GH caters to an older, conservative base who are likely disgusted by the idea of BtG - people like that fan who went on a racist rant against GH and Y&R last year. I think that show's biggest issues may just be the issues that have hurt daytime soaps so much, much-discussed - a social media world, many who don't have time now for soaps, or see them as old hat, etc. I wish they had tried a half-hour soap. But CBS asked for what they asked for and I hope they will stand by the show. I mean I am not sure those who want BtG to be a break from GH will get that full break given that so many who ran GH (into the ground) are working at BtG.

Yes. Outside of Lois I am not sure Rena ever found a role, although I like her work on Loving. Not sure if she left that show or if she was fired.

@chrisml Thanks. I find that plug-pulling murder mystery type story distasteful for what Search was meant to be even at that time. @dc11786 Appreciate your help as always, and the reminder to listen to those radio soaps. There's so much potential for 15 minute soaps, especially in these budget conscious days. I wonder if it was ever said why Len calls his mother Andrea. Maybe she didn't want to ever be called Mother or Mom. The second set of clips is marked as 3 hours and 20 minutes but ends around 2 hours and 20 minutes (and the last episode is the Christmas 1966 episode we've had online for years). Not complaining as I'm so grateful to get so much of this, just letting people know if they haven't dived in yet. I wonder if there's a bit of a time jump (only a slight one) in this third set or if it's just some overworked actors rotating out for a short period. The stories haven't really progressed, but we suddenly get Eunice, who wasn't seen or even mentioned in the first two blocs. We also see Emily with her other beau, Cal - I assume this is the professor she had a snotty phone call with earlier on...? Do we know who played him? (I haven't gotten to any other cast crawls yet). Every word out of Emily's mouth is so florid, I almost wonder if just one writer was assigned to her and no one else. Andrea says she's leaving in this set - I wonder if Gilmore comes back in the last few blocs or if this actually is her end. As time goes on in these episodes, I feel sorry for Patty as she tells not one, but two men that she doesn't want to be with them, and they insist to her that she is their girl whether she wants to be or not. It's interesting to see Ann Williams here without the more stylish coifs she often had. She looks younger. She also reminds me of Geena Davis in these, for some reason.

I still have no idea who most of those people are... I wonder if Silverman was just saying that to get out of a project that wasn't his idea.

That was originally put up by another channel last month. I haven't seen them on here since the mid '10s and I don't know of any channels they have now either. I hope they are well.

I think any writer tends to deplore cliches in others but uses them in their own work. On GL, wasn't Carrie and Diane meeting up again in Springfield meant to be a coincidence? Unfortunately, thanks to miscasting Jackie and then all of those characters becoming so defined by Carrie for Marland's run (and Alan on redeeming himself, although I think that would have regressed even if Marland had stayed) the layers and power of the story were completely taken away.

Thanks guys. At around 55 minutes you have a Peggy McCay ad for A1. She is using a French accent. Very amusing.

I think BtG will be better quality than GH, and I think GH has a very set audience, not likely to trample over BtG - many of that show's potential viewers would never go near GH these days. I just feel like the genre is in such a weak state that any of them will be lucky to survive, let alone be in competition. That's more a soap world of 40 years ago. And given how many at BtG helped make GH what it is today, I think people who are expecting a big change may be in for a surprise. Given how cold and selfish she tends to be, I'd think she'd be more suited for DVX.

At around 2 hours and 22 minutes you get a minute or two of the show. I think this is a fragment from an episode that may have already been on Youtube years ago but I may be completely wrong.

Sorry if this was already put up (I searched but that isn't always enough) - this Italian channel interviewed a number of alum. I think the Frank Beaty interview may have been posted here before, but there are some others, including a few who don't get as much attention, like Carolyn Ann Clark (Lesley Ann) and Katell Pleven (Dana). I do see that Clark was on Locher Room, but I don't think Pleven ever was. I skimmed through both a little. Clark gets some dates wrong but that's understandable given how many years have passed. She also mentioned that they killed Lesley Ann to make viewers feel sorry for Warren. Whatever attempts at making him sympathetic the show had clearly didn't last long as that character was probably one of the biggest haters on GL.

Bringing in Mulcahey.

I feel like some of the ideas of GH being terrified are inadvertently setting BtG up for a fall. I am reminded of a few years ago when Neighbours was revived and some Home & Away fans who were sick of the show were saying Neighbours was going to hurt it and Home & Away should be scared, etc. (it made no sense as they weren't even in competing timeslots) And look where we are today. GH has many problems and has for a long time. ABC had the opportunity to step in and backed down, probably in part because viewers seemingly rejected the attempts at change. So now we're stuck here, and likely will be for the rest of GH's lifespan.

Having Jackie as sympathetic was a much better idea, as it adds so much more of an ache to the story - attaching herself to Alan for the sake of her son, a secret no one else knew, and yet losing Philip all over again anyway. The moments where she offers support to Elizabeth in spite of Elizabeth having all she ever wanted for herself are achingly beautiful. Adam always feeling guilty about making Roger who he was does make some sense for the blindness, until he just couldn't anymore (and unlike many others, never forgave Roger). That would explain why he wrote Philip out. The poor recasting of Jackie, writing out Elizabeth, etc. took so much out of a story that should have been at a peak.

There are some people who only start to care if a child is in the picture, so that part was realistic. I know Lisa wasn't from the South, but I think Eileen often played her with a certain Southern flair, Scarlett O'Hara tones at times, which must have had some impact. I agree with @Reverend Ruthledge that Nancy being against the relationship would have made sense, but beyond her volunteering at the Earl Mitchell Center she had little involvement in their lives. Her being uneasy about Hank being close to Andy would have made a lot of sense, but Marland didn't ever seem to want to write her in a negative or judgmental manner, other than moments here and there like how put off she was about Emily/Paul.

Kim's back on Locher Room, with Paul Fitzgerald (who played Reva's doctor in the show's last few years).