52 minutes ago, Soaplovers said:

The surprise was it was placed at the end of the episode thus making it a cliffhanger. For once, the writers actually wrote an old school soap opera episode

And I'm saying it would have been a good surprise and cliffhanger if they hadn't given it away last week.

5 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

At the risk of being laughed at I'll add my 2 cents.

Giving Jacob/Naomi a bedroom was a choice and they had to later redress it as a living room. Which shows they can redress a set quite effectively.

Then Nicole got an office off her living room which I don't think we have seen for quite a while. Whereas Vernon/Anita need an extra room more.

Caffeine Fix seemed to start off as a thrown together space which came into play when they realized there weren't enough meeting places. It's been changed since then. Now they are mentioning The Atrium, which I think is the complex where Caffeine Fix is located.

Remember in the first ep we saw the foyer of Bill/Hayley's house. Where did it go? And have we seen the reception area at Bill's office lately? Hayley/Tomas could have met there rather than the coffee shop.

Yes, they needed to think/plan better at the start in terms of sets and occupations.

Good points. We also saw the outside of Bill and Hayley's place when Dani was trying to break in and was caught by security. There was some greenery if I remember correctly...an outdoor space would be nice.

The Atrium seems like a food court/mall. When I lived in Europe, there were indoor food courts all over the place. They weren't connected to malls, just a building with a bunch of food stalls inside. Sorta like an Eatly or Mercado Little Spain in NYC. The idea is fine, the execution leaves a lot to be desired.

3 hours ago, Taoboi said:

I never thought I would say this, but...UGH at Ted and Nicole.

I stay enjoying seeing Martin. What a difference a year makes.

It's funny watching Hayley being mad over Babygate knowing that the walls are closing in on her and Bill will be mad at her soon enough...

Have to agree on Martin. I would never have thought I would be saying this a year ago.

I'm all caught up. I love how when someone comments about storylines being dropped and like magic the show revisits it. Case in point, Martin's and Vernon's ordeal. Martin is still dealing with the ramifications and I accepted his explain of staying as busy as possible.

I absolutely love the friendship Vanessa has with both Nicole and Dani. It's so believable to me. I still think Vanessa is a hot mess but that's another post.

Also, put me in the category of being a fan of Ashley & Grayson. I love how the show pivoted with Ashley and Derek and I've never liked the characters more. But, I do hope Grayson makes it out his current mess alive.

12 hours ago, GLATWT88 said:

Have to agree on Martin. I would never have thought I would be saying this a year ago.

IKR. Granted I was one of his early likers, but there was a long stretch of time where BC really wasn't on the screen and it was felt. (perhaps BC was on vacation?) But I've really enjoyed the increase in his presence this week and last. It was only during his scenes with Vernon and especially Nicole yesterday that I just thought about how natural BC seems now. Comfortable in his skin and in Martin and how much growth he had over the past year that he's highly enjoyable.

11 hours ago, skiman12082004 said:

I love how when someone comments about storylines being dropped and like magic the show revisits it.

I admit that has always been a fun little in-joke around here. Same with characters, too.

11 hours ago, skiman12082004 said:

I absolutely love the friendship Vanessa has with both Nicole and Dani. It's so believable to me. I still think Vanessa is a hot mess but that's another post.

Same. At this point, they make Vanessa more bearable and/or interesting. At least for me. I was so happy to get a 'Dani Longlegs' out of her this past week.

11 hours ago, skiman12082004 said:

Also, put me in the category of being a fan of Ashley & Grayson. I love how the show pivoted with Ashley and Derek and I've never liked the characters more.

Very much this. Ashley has recovered from last year nicely and by doing what the audience wanted...be supporting and NOT crazy neurotic. So her with Grayson has been near perfect. And it does help they do have internal AND external drama to keep them interesting. So not boring to me at all.