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1 hour ago, ReddFoxx said:

Patty Duke was an Academy Award and Emmy Award winner, but success with another series after "The Patty Duke Show" never materialized. Her first venture "Hail To The Chief" in 1985 lasted only 7 episodes. After that she did "Karen's Song" on the then brand new FOX Network, but it went nowhere. Her last try at a series was a drama called "Amazing Grace" which was only 5 episodes.

Don't forget this short-lived series, co-starring Richard Crenna, Helen Hunt, Anthony Edwards and a very familiar-looking set (watch closely!):

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Re: Lucy as a Daytime soap producer. She could have been loosely based on Gloria Monty. Real soap actors could have guest starred. I can picture Lucy taking a drag off a cigarette and telling a guesting Susan Lucci " Just say the lines as written" then the two later come to blows with Lucci smashing a cake in Lucy's face and Lucy rubs Lucci's nose in a plate of spaghetti during the filming of a dinner scene that goes awry. The possibilities would be endless.

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1 hour ago, Khan said:

I think so, too. I could see a series where Lucy, as a one-time chorus girl and B-movie actress (from Jamestown, NY, Lucy's actual hometown) turned housewife and mother, has a son who followed in his late father's footsteps and joined the LAPD.

Love this.

The show biz connection could come into play from time to time.

Lucy could get a bit part in a movie filming locally and is reacquainted with an actor/actress from that time. They could use footage from one of her old RKO b movies.

There would be a lot of story possibilities. And it wouldn't always have to be a murder plot.

Lucy and friends go on a cruise and get entangled in murder.

Goes undercover at a retirement community.

Goes to a nostalgia movie convention.

I'm thinking of movies I've seen that you could steal plots from

Manhattan Murder Mystery . Lucy and her friends try to get to the bottom of the death of a neighbour

Whatever Happened to Aunt Alice? Lucy goes undercover as a companion to a woman who's previous companions have managed to meet untimely deaths.

Witness to Murder-Lucy witnesses a murder across the street but no trace can be found.

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2 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

Love this.

The show biz connection could come into play from time to time.

Lucy could get a bit part in a movie filming locally and is reacquainted with an actor/actress from that time. They could use footage from one of her old RKO b movies.

There would be a lot of story possibilities. And it wouldn't always have to be a murder plot.

Lucy and friends go on a cruise and get entangled in murder.

Goes undercover at a retirement community.

Goes to a nostalgia movie convention.

I'm thinking of movies I've seen that you could steal plots from

Manhattan Murder Mystery . Lucy and her friends try to get to the bottom of the death of a neighbour

Whatever Happened to Aunt Alice? Lucy goes undercover as a companion to a woman who's previous companions have managed to meet untimely deaths.

Witness to Murder-Lucy witnesses a murder across the street but no trace can be found.

There could even have been an episode that paid homage to "The Dark Corner," often considered her finest dramatic film, complete with a guest appearance by still-alive Mark Stevens.

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57 minutes ago, Khan said:

Don't forget this short-lived series, co-starring Richard Crenna, Helen Hunt, Anthony Edwards and a very familiar-looking set (watch closely!):

I think Crystal Gayle's guest stint on AW was shorter than that theme song.

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6 hours ago, DRW50 said:

I think Crystal Gayle's guest stint on AW was shorter than that theme song.

🤣 That theme was really long and unnecessary. Poor Patty Duke always looked middle aged. The beard suits Richard Crenna. Seeing Tony Thomas as one of the executive producers made me think why didn't his sister Marlo ever do another regular series after That Girl? I know she made guest appearances on Friends etc...and many TV movies.

I remember Marlo doing an interview in recent years where a lot of people have approached her about doing a revival off TG where the granddaughter was the focus with Marlo as Grandmother Anne would be around to offer advice etc...Marlo said "Ick! that sounds horrible". She said since she owns the rights to her series she can veto anything surrounding it. She said Ann Marie was a "That Girl" of her era (1960's/early 70's) and she should remain there.

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4 hours ago, SoapDope78 said:

I remember Marlo doing an interview in recent years where a lot of people have approached her about doing a revival off TG where the granddaughter was the focus with Marlo as Grandmother Anne would be around to offer advice etc...Marlo said "Ick! that sounds horrible".

I'm with Marlo: that DOES sound horrible, lol.

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11 hours ago, DRW50 said:

I think Crystal Gayle's guest stint on AW was shorter than that theme song.

LOL!!

But seriously. That has to be one of the WORST theme songs I've ever heard for a sitcom. Entirely too slow and wistful sounding. A rare dud from the Witt/Thomas/Harris factory. (Your show is called "It Takes Two," for God's sake, why not get, say, Andrew Gold and Melissa Manchester to do a new arrangement of that classic Motown song of the same name?)

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4 hours ago, SoapDope78 said:

Poor Patty Duke always looked middle aged.

I tend to blame her hair. Somewhere around 1980, she started wearing her hair like some real estate broker from the Midwest.

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A poor theme song and opening credits can break a new sitcom, IMO. The vibe is set for the viewer from the first chord of the theme song. Of course, poor writing and concept doesn't help much either.

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