14 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Lol.  I don't even remember that Sam/Jason story.  I thought it was recent, but maybe I was just thinking of Baby Irene's funeral.   You know I have a hard time ranking Sam's "important" moments though.

Yes. I remember some Kelly fans felt it was a deliberate slight as those were some of her final moments with her family.

1 hour ago, janea4old said:

Patrick Mucahey tried to give Anna Devane a brain, but then he was gone.

Is there any hope to ever get *dynamic* Anna Devane back? 

Or should I just have to accept that whoever is being written now is a completely different character with the same name and actor?

It's difficult for me to even count that period because it felt like the same generic hand-wringing characters always do over Sonny (and they always revert to supporting him).

2 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

The gay crumbs they are giving us is appalling. Why do they even bother?

In today's climate this is the best we're going to get, sadly. Maybe BtG will do better. At least we don't have a Leo. (that was formerly Brad)

7 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

 

In today's climate this is the best we're going to get, sadly. Maybe BtG will do better. At least we don't have a Leo. (that was formerly Brad)

I doubt it. When they don't bother to say one of the black characters is gay and don't bother to acknowledge his husband, I have my doubts.

5 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Yes. I remember some Kelly fans felt it was a deliberate slight as those were some of her final moments with her family.

I always thought it was a very intentional choice on Kelly's part to call in "sick" or whatever after she found out she was fired.   If GH/FV/TPTB really wanted to add insult to injury they just would have permanently just recast Sam with LH.  Who knows though?  

I wonder if the Network/Frank, etc. is happy with how the Cyrus story is going?  Between Sidewell/Cyrus we've lost Sam, Dex, and Michael and I am still bored.

It amazes me that they recast Lucas with a daytime name (who would not have been my choice for the role, to be clear!) only to keep him on recurring and in a D-plot where he just... rehashes the same idiotic business with Brad that the show had already retired years ago. Like, why? I like Parry Shen and I am long since sick and tired of Brad and his nonsense. It's just embarrassing to watch.

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4 minutes ago, Vee said:

It's just embarrassing to watch.

Are we talking about Brad and Lucas' story in particular, or GH in general?

Just now, Khan said:

Are we talking about Brad and Lucas' story in particular, or GH in general?

There's lots of embarrassing things on GH, but the extended interlude of Brad at the gym talking to himself and his muscles was definitely in a league of its own.

11 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

I doubt it. When they don't bother to say one of the black characters is gay and don't bother to acknowledge his husband, I have my doubts.

Sure. Half the main Black cast wasn't featured in today's special either, but oddly enough you are uniquely focused on the one white guy.

1 minute ago, carolineg said:

I always thought it was a very intentional choice on Kelly's part to call in "sick" or whatever after she found out she was fired.   If GH/FV/TPTB really wanted to add insult to injury they just would have permanently just recast Sam with LH.  Who knows though?  

I wonder if the Network/Frank, etc. is happy with how the Cyrus story is going?  Between Sidewell/Cyrus we've lost Sam, Dex, and Michael and I am still bored.

I guess the ratings are the only way to know for sure, but I don't really get any of the buzz the show had during the last year or so of Sprina. Of course that was never going to last forever, but there really aren't stories that are going to get the same type of sustained interest. The closest would be the few weeks of drama surrounding Willow/Drew, but that is mostly gone now. I wish the show would realize those types of moments, which are "soapier" (much as that term annoys me) drama rather than yet another serial killer, are more likely to get interest. 

I knew Lucky's return wasn't going to provide much drama, as the character is mostly part of the past, but given how much Alexa Havins settled in and that she has several kids who are central to the current canvas, they should have done much more with her return than they have.

8 minutes ago, Vee said:

It amazes me that they recast Lucas with a daytime name (who would not have been my choice for the role, to be clear!) only to keep him on recurring and in a D-plot where he just... rehashes the same idiotic business with Brad that the show had already retired years ago. Like, why? I like Parry Shen and I am long since sick and tired of Brad and his nonsense. It's just embarrassing to watch.

I'm not too amazed. I think I said it too much at the time but I always thought that was just a sop because they were raked over the coals for writing out a bisexual woman and trying to make us feel sorry for her homophobic mother. 

They have given Lucas some nice material with his family, which was more than I had expected to be honest, but his just being there before slowly fading away doesn't surprise me.

1 minute ago, DRW50 said:

I knew Lucky's return wasn't going to provide much drama, as the character is mostly part of the past, but given how much Alexa Havins settled in and that she has several kids who are central to the current canvas, they should have done much more with her return than they have.

I think the Spencers just aren't a priority for the show which would rather push other storylines and favored actors. Right now FV seems predictably fascinated with Sidwell and the vague imprimatur of another actor from bad cable shows, yet another tedious secret baby saga (BLQ/Dante/Gio) and making sure Sofia Mattsson has a job for another five years, as well as straining to find a way to justify last year's re-investment in Steve Burton. Everything else is secondary, so the show's priorities are Bizarro World. That's why you get so many talented people sort of swimming about in limbo between the cracks getting B story, when Alexa, Jonathan, Becky, Dominic and Genie should be frontburner.

Dominic and Alexa will have plenty of material with the Gio story shortly, I'm sure, which will provide angst and be a continued spoiler for the inevitable Lulu/Dante reunion. But it's still less about centering them and more about the fallout of this unnecessary story. I'm sure BLQ will not lack for airtime in her willow's weeds. That's why when you finally get to key reunions on this show in recent years, as Lulu/Dante or LNL2 inevitably will, they don't hit the way they could because the show either stalled it out or prioritized the wrong things.

1 hour ago, carolineg said:

Didn't Lindsay Hartley play some important scenes for Sam as well?  

Yes, she did. And played them well.

Also, supposedly in the past Frankie offered Hartley the gig full-time, regular, presumably on contract. But, again supposedly, she declined, saying most of her time she enjoys directing & this off-chance is just keeping her hand in the game. 

And, let's continue with supposedly, one of those times, when she returned to the studio, after being fired, she had a sling on with her arm bandaged. I Don't Know if she was accident-prone or whatever???

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7 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I always thought that was just a sop because they were raked over the coals for writing out a bisexual woman and trying to make us feel sorry for her homophobic mother. 

What's surprising is how little Eva has been on lately, which may be partly them hoping people will forget (while recently trying to present Natalia as nothing short of a GLAAD mom). Of course now they've introduced the tedious Sidwell twist we all saw coming, which will lead to at least another year of these two or I'll eat my hat.

Anna couldn't find a chicken at KFC 

Styling Aiden as an Oompa Loompa from 1994 today was a bold choice.

I've said it before, but I'm mildly stunned they got lil' Charlie Besso, a reasonably famous influencer/boyfriend to the stars, to play Tobias a.k.a. Aiden's George Glass. For all of his two lines. He's a little too big for this show. But I still don't particularly care about these two, because the Aiden situation still feels so strange to me re: its treatment on the show.

Guy Wilson has clearly had a rough few years and looks like he just escaped the Indigo Girls, and it was terrible of them to let a sub play these LNL2 scenes. But I'll always think Guy is underrated because of those intensely horny love scenes on DAYS where he didn't giggle and smirk his way through them like Certain Parties.

5 minutes ago, Vee said:

Styling Aiden as an Oompa Loompa from 1994 today was a bold choice.

I've said it before, but I'm mildly stunned they got lil' Charlie Besso, a reasonably famous influencer/boyfriend to the stars, to play Tobias a.k.a. Aiden's George Glass. For all of his two lines. He's a little too big for this show. But I still don't particularly care about these two, because the Aiden situation still feels so strange to me re: its treatment on the show.

Guy Wilson has clearly had a rough few years and looks like he just escaped the Indigo Girls, and it was terrible of them to let a sub play these LNL2 scenes. But I'll always think Guy is underrated because of those intensely horny love scenes on DAYS where he didn't giggle and smirk his way through them like Certain Parties.

😂

I feel bad saying this, but those Liz/Lucky scenes were so awkward.  Add in our first Tobias appearance and Aiden's acting ability and I just felt for Becky.  It felt like everyone in the scenes were a little lost and BH just kept trying her hardest to make it work.  The pace of this reunion has been so slow.  I could have waited a few more weeks for JJ to be back.

2 minutes ago, carolineg said:

It felt like everyone in the scenes were a little lost and BH just kept trying her hardest to make it work. 

That was exactly what I thought. I was like woof, what a week for Becky.

49 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I'm not too amazed. I think I said it too much at the time but I always thought that was just asop because they were raked over the coals for writing out a bisexual woman and trying to make us feel sorry for her homophobic mother. 

They have given Lucas some nice material with his family, which was more than I had expected to be honest, but his just being there before slowly fading away doesn't surprise me.

Isn't he on recurring because he & his partner reside in NYC? I believe he commutes.